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Re: Around the NBA - Other Playoff Series 

Post#1361 » by King4Day » Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:48 am

I know Holiday is great but Milwaukee is showing how much they need Chris Paul. Dude would be running this show right now. They are treating Giannis like a superstar. I know he technically is, but he's so limited offensively that he needs to be playing off ball.

And for the love of all that is good, he needs to spend all offseason just shooting the ball. He has to get better or else they'll never win a championship. Not with that roster at least.
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Re: Around the NBA - Other Playoff Series 

Post#1362 » by bwgood77 » Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:48 am

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King4Day wrote:I'm watching the Nets/Bucks.
The Bucks went came out hot and went up 21. The Nets were taking open, but bad shots, in that they were not in the rhythm of their offense.
Their comeback (down 6 at the moment) was because they were owning Brook Lopez inside. Bruce Brown was making him look silly. He is a slow defender.

I don't expect DA to have that trouble if we meet them down the line. In fact, I could see DA possibly playing Brown off the floor. I'd need to see more of him though. I'm just going by a small sample size.

They double KD sometimes and I expect we would too sometimes. But I think we have better length. I could also see us put DA on KD sometimes while Bridges takes on Kyrie to get length on him.

These are just some thoughts. It may not be relevant but I don't think you just hand Brooklyn the crown if we reach the finals against BKN.


I definitely think we should put Ayton on KD. He'd be a waste on Griffin. I'd put Bridges on Harden and CP3 on Kyrie.


I'd be a little worried KD would put Ayton on skates. Ayton's a good defender, but he tends to sink a little bit defending the perimeter and you can't give KD an inch. Nothing wrong with giving him more opportunity to protect the rim off-ball by guarding Griffin.


KD is just too tall and long for anyone else. I feel like he would kill anyone else. I haven't watched KD a lot but he doesn't seem nearly as crafty as people who have hurt Ayton like Harden and LaMelo.

I guess you can put Crowder on him but it does seem like Blake shoots 3s too and KD scores a lot inside anyway, and outrebounds Blake too.
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Re: Around the NBA - Other Playoff Series 

Post#1363 » by bwgood77 » Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:55 am

King4Day wrote:I know Holiday is great but Milwaukee is showing how much they need Chris Paul. Dude would be running this show right now. They are treating Giannis like a superstar. I know he technically is, but he's so limited offensively that he needs to be playing off ball.

And for the love of all that is good, he needs to spend all offseason just shooting the ball. He has to get better or else they'll never win a championship. Not with that roster at least.


The weird thing is the Bucks had the best pt differential in the NBA and better than all but the Jazz and Clips. And last year they had by far the best, almost twice the differential of anyone last year and better than anyone this year.

Their offense was great. And I think Jrue was an upgrade from Bledsoe.

It's just weird they've looked so bad in this series. Both teams look bad tonight. Both shooting under 40% from the field and 25% or under from 3. It's not like the Nets have a good defense.

The Bucks crushed the Heat.

I do think they probably need a coaching change but it's hard to find upgrades at a certain point. The Bucks shooting has just been awful. I don't think Giannis usually shoots so many 3s but Middleton was like 0-5 last game and no one is shooting it that well tonight except him.

The Bucks should be a lot better matchup for the Nets without Harden than they are. They are just choking. Their coach must not instill confidence or something.
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Re: Around the NBA - Other Playoff Series 

Post#1364 » by King4Day » Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:57 am

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Re: Around the NBA - Other Playoff Series 

Post#1365 » by King4Day » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:10 am

I fully expect this type of game with Denver tomorrow. Probably better shooting though.
We probably need it too. Can't blow out everyone.
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Post#1366 » by wheezy » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:23 am

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King4Day wrote:I'm watching the Nets/Bucks.
The Bucks went came out hot and went up 21. The Nets were taking open, but bad shots, in that they were not in the rhythm of their offense.
Their comeback (down 6 at the moment) was because they were owning Brook Lopez inside. Bruce Brown was making him look silly. He is a slow defender.

I don't expect DA to have that trouble if we meet them down the line. In fact, I could see DA possibly playing Brown off the floor. I'd need to see more of him though. I'm just going by a small sample size.

They double KD sometimes and I expect we would too sometimes. But I think we have better length. I could also see us put DA on KD sometimes while Bridges takes on Kyrie to get length on him.

These are just some thoughts. It may not be relevant but I don't think you just hand Brooklyn the crown if we reach the finals against BKN.


I definitely think we should put Ayton on KD. He'd be a waste on Griffin. I'd put Bridges on Harden and CP3 on Kyrie.

I think you want Ayton as near the hoop on defense as possible, and that isn't with him on KD. Not that Griffin is much better, but you'd rather give him space than KD. Get Crowder and Craig to be super physical with Durant. Do the best you can because you can't stop him.
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Re: Around the NBA - Other Playoff Series 

Post#1367 » by wheezy » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:25 am

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darealjuice wrote:I don't really like the construction of this Bucks team. Jrue and Middleton are both better on-ball players despite Giannis tending to dominate possession. The spacing doesn't feel right, teams don't care about Giannis hanging out on the perimeter, and I'd let Lopez shoot as many 3s as he wants if he's out there until he shows he's hot.

I'd be interested in seeing Giannis in more of a point-center role. Surround him with shooters, stick him at the elbow and have him run dribble handoff options, face up and attack, or run quick pick and roll/slip options that he can make plays out of. An undersized 3-and-D PF like Jae Crowder would fit well next to him in that position.


This is probably why they'll find a new coach if they lose this series (bad). They don't seem to make the right adjustments.

It took Bud 2 years to start switching on defense when it was obv that they needed to in certain situations (Heat series last year). He's not a great playoffs coach.
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Post#1368 » by wheezy » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:27 am

King4Day wrote:I know Holiday is great but Milwaukee is showing how much they need Chris Paul. Dude would be running this show right now. They are treating Giannis like a superstar. I know he technically is, but he's so limited offensively that he needs to be playing off ball.

And for the love of all that is good, he needs to spend all offseason just shooting the ball. He has to get better or else they'll never win a championship. Not with that roster at least.

Giannis and Ben Simmons both need to hope Steph retires and opens up a shooting camp.... They really need to open their games up. Too good not to.
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Re: Around the NBA - Other Playoff Series 

Post#1369 » by RunDogGun » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:30 am

As much as I dislike pretty much the whole Clippers team, I don't know if I want Utah anymore, if we beat Denver.
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Post#1370 » by King4Day » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:35 am

RunDogGun wrote:As much as I dislike pretty much the whole Clippers team, I don't know if I want Utah anymore, if we beat Denver.


Regardless who we root for, we can't control who we get. We know we played Utah well and we know the Clippers had our number. Maybe we get past Denver and Utah smashes us or we crush the Clips. We let the cards fall where they may :)
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Re: Around the NBA - Other Playoff Series 

Post#1371 » by RunDogGun » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:41 am

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RunDogGun wrote:As much as I dislike pretty much the whole Clippers team, I don't know if I want Utah anymore, if we beat Denver.


Regardless who we root for, we can't control who we get. We know we played Utah well and we know the Clippers had our number. Maybe we get past Denver and Utah smashes us or we crush the Clips. We let the cards fall where they may :)

Totally, but if Utah keeps rolling like this...I don't think it matters what we did in regular season. I am not really looking past Denver yet, but PG just seems to be choking.
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Re: Around the NBA - Other Playoff Series 

Post#1372 » by RunDogGun » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:46 am

Either way, I really want the Utah/Clips series to go seven games.
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Re: Around the NBA - Other Playoff Series 

Post#1373 » by bwgood77 » Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:11 am

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RunDogGun wrote:As much as I dislike pretty much the whole Clippers team, I don't know if I want Utah anymore, if we beat Denver.


Regardless who we root for, we can't control who we get. We know we played Utah well and we know the Clippers had our number. Maybe we get past Denver and Utah smashes us or we crush the Clips. We let the cards fall where they may :)

Totally, but if Utah keeps rolling like this...I don't think it matters what we did in regular season. I am not really looking past Denver yet, but PG just seems to be choking.


Can Mitchell keep rolling like this? In the last 2 1/2 games he has scored 105 points and hit 17-34 from 3. 50% on 34 3 pt attempts in 10 quarters! Along with 19 assists.

Also, the Clips lost the first 2 at home against Dallas and came back so I'd wait to see how they finish this one and play in their 2 home games before thinking Utah is going to roll over people.

Utah is shooting over 48% from 3...which is crazy..those 2 early Dallas losses I think Dallas shot like 53% and 48% from 3...and even in game 3 hit like 50%.

Clips still have kept games close despite those shooting games...and are shooting over 41% from 3.

I'd prefer Utah but I guess we'd get home court against the Clips and so far they've been shakier.

Ultimately I don't care and put much energy into it since what's going to happen is going to happen.
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Post#1374 » by spanishninja » Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:12 am

Is it possible to just have both Utah and Clippers lose?

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Post#1375 » by darealjuice » Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:28 am

Jazz showing why you can't act like the game's over just because you're up 20
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Post#1376 » by spanishninja » Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:29 am

What the **** are these clipper passes tho? Just terrible

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Re: Around the NBA - Other Playoff Series 

Post#1377 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:37 am

Neither of these teams will be fun to play if the suns make it to the conference finals. But the conference finals should be hard.

Kawhi scares me more than anyone else.

A Utah series would be a lot of pretty basketball on both sides.

A clippers series would be a chippy slog of a series.
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Re: Around the NBA - Other Playoff Series 

Post#1378 » by RunDogGun » Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:48 am

Clips can't make a shot now.
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Post#1379 » by Adrao » Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:55 am

Utah is awsome. I can't imagine Clippers winning more than two matches.
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Post#1380 » by sunsbg » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:28 am

The Jazz are built exactly the same way as our team. Hopefully both make WCF and the better team wins it all.

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