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cool93 wrote:He averages 40 against Hawks so far and we are 1-1. Do you expect him to average 60 against Nets or what?Dnt hate wrote:Embiid is going to destroy the Nets or Bucks, just need to hope the rest of the team shoes up
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Kobblehead wrote:ivysixer2000 wrote:I do have to wonder how we would look if we hadn't traded Bridges for basically nothing.
Course we can always look at the Fultz thing really took automatic real ring contenders for a decade out of our equation.
Least we didn't waste as many resources as the Celtics, but it can still give heartburn.
We would have been much better against the Celtics because we'd have Bridges and Covington swarming dudes defensively and drilling assisted threes.
Ultimately, drafting Bridges at #10 would have still been a bad value pick because he had no shotcreation upside. Shai was one of the very best prospects in the class and it was beyond obvious that he should have been the pick. Shai would have literally rendered the Fultz whiff irrelevant and been a franchise-saving selection.
Fischella wrote:I think none of you guys that are pro-Embiid no how basketball works today.. is way easier to win it all with Omer Asik than Olajuwon.
Actually if you ask me which Center I want for my perfect championship caliber team, I will chose Asik hands down
LloydFree wrote:Kobblehead wrote:ivysixer2000 wrote:I do have to wonder how we would look if we hadn't traded Bridges for basically nothing.
Course we can always look at the Fultz thing really took automatic real ring contenders for a decade out of our equation.
Least we didn't waste as many resources as the Celtics, but it can still give heartburn.
We would have been much better against the Celtics because we'd have Bridges and Covington swarming dudes defensively and drilling assisted threes.
Ultimately, drafting Bridges at #10 would have still been a bad value pick because he had no shotcreation upside. Shai was one of the very best prospects in the class and it was beyond obvious that he should have been the pick. Shai would have literally rendered the Fultz whiff irrelevant and been a franchise-saving selection.
If you and Negro are going to keep going to this, at least be realistic. We all know you wanted Shai, and some others wanted Bridges (and nobody thought Michael Porter Jr would be available) but they were never going to select Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, because Markelle Fultz was still on the team. It would have been admitting that Markelle Fultz was trash, and neither the front office or fans were willing to admit that at that time. Therefore Shai was not an option.
It was not clear at all, to most, that Shai Gilgeous-Alexander was superior to Fultz at the time of that draft. I remember, because I got into many arguments on this board for suggestung Shai was a much better prospect than Fultz and did all of the things we people thought Fultz could do. They were never going to take Shai Gilgeous-Alexander while Fultz was on this team, so it's no need to go back and pretend that was a realistic option.
76ciology wrote:The key probably is how much Seth can average.
Seth has lowkey been averaging 17ppg on great %s this playoffs.
Negrodamus wrote:LloydFree wrote:Kobblehead wrote:We would have been much better against the Celtics because we'd have Bridges and Covington swarming dudes defensively and drilling assisted threes.
Ultimately, drafting Bridges at #10 would have still been a bad value pick because he had no shotcreation upside. Shai was one of the very best prospects in the class and it was beyond obvious that he should have been the pick. Shai would have literally rendered the Fultz whiff irrelevant and been a franchise-saving selection.
If you and Negro are going to keep going to this, at least be realistic. We all know you wanted Shai, and some others wanted Bridges (and nobody thought Michael Porter Jr would be available) but they were never going to select Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, because Markelle Fultz was still on the team. It would have been admitting that Markelle Fultz was trash, and neither the front office or fans were willing to admit that at that time. Therefore Shai was not an option.
It was not clear at all, to most, that Shai Gilgeous-Alexander was superior to Fultz at the time of that draft. I remember, because I got into many arguments on this board for suggestung Shai was a much better prospect than Fultz and did all of the things we people thought Fultz could do. They were never going to take Shai Gilgeous-Alexander while Fultz was on this team, so it's no need to go back and pretend that was a realistic option.
It's just a strange point to me. Why would Cleveland select Darius Garland the year after selecting Collin Sexton? Wouldn't that alienate Sexton. Could it be because he was the best player available? Lillard in 2012, McCollum in 2013? Maybe our deranged FO at the time felt that was a non-starter because it would have hurt Fultz's fee-fees but that shouldn't be a prevailing thought around the league.
Fischella wrote:I think none of you guys that are pro-Embiid no how basketball works today.. is way easier to win it all with Omer Asik than Olajuwon.
Actually if you ask me which Center I want for my perfect championship caliber team, I will chose Asik hands down
LloydFree wrote:It makes sense to you to draft Shai, because you and Kobble thought he was that good. It made sense to me because I thought Fultz shouldn't even be considered. But it didn't make sense to the team or anyone else who still had hopes of Fultz being any good.
76ciology wrote:The key probably is how much Seth can average.
Seth has lowkey been averaging 17ppg on great %s this playoffs.
76ciology wrote:We’re probably the only franchise in the league that likes drafting guards who can’t shoot and score in the lottery. MCW, Ben and Zhaire. Just think about it.
Kobblehead wrote:76ciology wrote:We’re probably the only franchise in the league that likes drafting guards who can’t shoot and score in the lottery. MCW, Ben and Zhaire. Just think about it.
Carter-Williams couldn't shoot, but he absolutely could score. Excellent off-dribble ability. I still think Carter-Williams would have eventually developed into a star had we not crushed his soul with the random trade and then him getting injured right away.
76ciology wrote:I just feel like with how overpowered scoring is, you need natural shooter/scorers. That it is fool’s gold to believe you can develop non natural shooters/scorers into one. Think of guys like CJ or Booker. Maybe even guys like Huerter, Joe Harris or Duncan Robinson.
