Does Donovan Mitchell's domination of the Clippers call into question Luka's greatness?

[John Murdoch]

Thats like a wrestler that does all the work than only tags in his partner to pin ths guy. Luka took them to 7 basically on his own and drained theyre energy

[Stribor]

Mitch did not dominate the clips, Bogdan did.

Where is Bogdan in Utah????

[WargamesX]

put Luka on the Jazz in place of Mitchell and they're cruising to a championship

The media is only now starting to admit the team around Luka is trash

[MoneyTalks41890]

It's not the offseason yet let's save the truly bad threads for that

[SFour]

put Luka on the Jazz in place of Mitchell and they're cruising to a championship

The media is only now starting to admit the team around Luka is trash

I wouldn't say Luka's team is trash....but when Hardaway is your 2nd best player you can't really go far.

[WargamesX]

put Luka on the Jazz in place of Mitchell and they're cruising to a championship

The media is only now starting to admit the team around Luka is trash

I wouldn't say Luka's team is trash....but when Hardaway is your 2nd best player you can't really go far.

That team without Luka is lottery bound. He deserves better

[JB2]

Live Luka Donovan's roster and he's coming out the west and maybe even beating the Nets

[DaPessimist]

Did the Clippers bench half of their roster because of Mitchell?

Maybe they should.

[Quattro]

Frankly I’m starting to question the intelligence of this forum.

Starting? You must be new here

[dautjazz]

Way to insult two superstars in one post. Mitchell has a ton more help than Doncic. Mitchel punished the Clippers when they double or triple him, Doncic doesn't have a whole lot of scoring options to pass it to when they double him.

[oldschooled]

put Luka on the Jazz in place of Mitchell and they're cruising to a championship

These are the kind of hyperbole RealGM needs.

[Emhoward]

I get what the OP is trying to say. He's saying that we previously thought that the Clippers D couldnt stop Luka because Luka was just so great, it wasnt clips D being suspect, it was Lukas greatness, but now that we're seeing them unable to handle Mitchell, who no one has a top ten player, and most wouldnt have in their top 15, perhaps its the Clippers defensive scheme thats causing these already great players to exceed expectations.

In fantasy you have DVP, Defense vs. Position, the idea is you pick players for your team that are going up against an opposing team that struggles to defend that position. For example this year playing Point Guards against the Kings or Centers against the Grizzles may have yielded good results because for whatever reason those teams struggled to defend that position...

So the OP is saying perhaps the Clippers struggle to defend the ball handler/combo guard position and because of that players that play that position (Luka and Mitchell) have inflated numbers. Numbers they wouldnt sustain if they were playing a team that defended that position at an average rate...

That said, the sample size is too small to draw this conclusion... and even if OP was right, I dont think this should take away from what any of these two players are doing. Its not their fault the Clips may have a suspect D.

[Yuri36]

Nah. Just makes Porzingis look even more pathetic though when Gobert eats on the boards against the Clippers

Yeah if anyone was "exposed" in that Mavs Clippers series it was Porzingis not Luka. Luka was awesome anyway.

The main difference though is Kawhi was playing completely out of his mind against the Mavs and he's been bad against the Jazz. If the Mavs went up against this version of Kawhi it would have been a sweep.

This version of Kawih is because the Jazz are a much better defensive team than the Mavs. It's not like Kawih suddenly forgot how to play. He might have his and maybe some big games, but it will at a higher rate of difficulty than against the Mavs.

Give me a break about that, just tonight, Kawhi has missed several mid rangers with no defenders on him, mid rangers he almost never missed against Mavs, be it open or with a defender contesting him.


It's like playing Luka Doncic is the only thing nowadays which really wakes up Kawhi

[Yuri36]

To answer the OP's question: No.
Mitchell is underrated.

Nah. Just makes Porzingis look even more pathetic though when Gobert eats on the boards against the Clippers

Yeah if anyone was "exposed" in that Mavs Clippers series it was Porzingis not Luka. Luka was awesome anyway.

The main difference though is Kawhi was playing completely out of his mind against the Mavs and he's been bad against the Jazz. If the Mavs went up against this version of Kawhi it would have been a sweep.

The Jazz have a lot to do with Kawhi's performance. Their defense with Gobert etc is on another level from the Mavs.

What has Gobert to do with Kawhi missing mid rangers he normally rarely missed and that he almost never missed in the series against the Mavs?

[trickshot]

Yeah if anyone was "exposed" in that Mavs Clippers series it was Porzingis not Luka. Luka was awesome anyway.

The main difference though is Kawhi was playing completely out of his mind against the Mavs and he's been bad against the Jazz. If the Mavs went up against this version of Kawhi it would have been a sweep.

This version of Kawih is because the Jazz are a much better defensive team than the Mavs. It's not like Kawih suddenly forgot how to play. He might have his and maybe some big games, but it will at a higher rate of difficulty than against the Mavs.

Give me a break about that, just tonight, Kawhi has missed several mid rangers with no defenders on him, mid rangers he almost never missed against Mavs, be it open or with a defender contesting him.


It's like playing Luka Doncic is the only thing nowadays which really wakes up Kawhi

That's partly down to who the Mavs always have guarding him.

Hopefully they can address it because the roster has a ridiculous amount of holes like Kleber being the best wing defender, little to no high iq roleplayers and no secondary playmaker.