2021 Playoff and Offseason Speculation - the playoffs. PLAYOFFS????

[Slim Charless]

CP is really really old, 3 more years? look at how much lebron has declined this year compared to last, when you are 36 you age differently than a 26 yo, one year is like 10 to your body. CP is a lot more injury prone and has just as many mileages as lebron. Nash's last productive year was at 36 in 2010.

Well, hell Booker is almost 25. Why stop there, let's get ahead of that one too and trade him while he still has value. The Rockets have a ton of picks maybe they'll give some up to get Book on their team....amiright?

come on we almost lost to the lakers when CP just out of no where injured his shoulder from the most benign little bump and you want to invest that much money on an old injury prone player like him? with old players we never know decline can come real fast, jim jackson was a dragon for us at 34 few months later he sucked azz. selling high, sign and trade CP to NY see what we can get back is the right move, now we know we have a good team with a good point guard we go find that pg that will be around for years to come.

Trade him to NY? I guess maybe we can get Kevin Knox for him you think? Tell me what you think is a good deal for our HOF point who has- the entire league agrees changed the entire culture here. He should make 1st team and was an MVP canidate and you wanna trade him for scraps. All so we can get some "good point guard"...who you neglect to name. LMAO

You seem like a nice enough poster but that's a terrible idea. A terrible one.

Let's trade the guy who everyone thinks has brought us back to being a good team. A guy who everyone on our team loves. A guy who our coach says is like his extension out on the floor. Brilliant.

Here's what we do:

We pay him his 3/100 deal and we thank him for opportunity to let us give him that money. Then in the off-season we find a young guy to (eventually) replace him and to give him time to sit and save his legs.

[King4Day]

I fully expect Paul to get more rest during games next season. The chemistry is currently there and if we can draft a PG who has high upside, you go for that and hope we can develop him.

Now, if we win the title this season, while I don't think Paul leaves, you can talk about your options.
But, more likely, he'll re-sign for the 3 years (total) and ride this out to see if he can nab another title or 2. He knows he may never find another group of players like this who he seems to get along great with (along with competing at least)

[eminence]

How would Suns fans feel about making a move for Jerami Grant this offseason? Crowder/Smith/pick for Grant type of deal. Feels like a good time to add another long-term piece before extending Ayton/Bridges.

Would the financials work for a similar Siakam deal?

Anywho, congrats on a great run so far and a promising future!

[King4Day]

How would Suns fans feel about making a move for Jerami Grant this offseason? Crowder/Smith/pick for Grant type of deal. Feels like a good time to add another long-term piece before extending Ayton/Bridges.

Would the financials work for a similar Siakam deal?

Anywho, congrats on a great run so far and a promising future!

Thanks!


Grant would make more sense than Siakam IMO.
I don't think that's enough to get either though.

And with Siakam's new shoulder injury and long contract, I'd be leery of going near that right now (they'd probably want Bridges in a deal).

If the Suns are able to win the title this season, I am not sure you'll see major moves. With DA, Bridges, CamJo, CamPa, and Booker still growing, their development alone might be enough of an addition (outside of back of the bench type moves)

[eminence]

How would Suns fans feel about making a move for Jerami Grant this offseason? Crowder/Smith/pick for Grant type of deal. Feels like a good time to add another long-term piece before extending Ayton/Bridges.

Would the financials work for a similar Siakam deal?

Anywho, congrats on a great run so far and a promising future!

Thanks!


Grant would make more sense than Siakam IMO.
I don't think that's enough to get either though.

And with Siakam's new shoulder injury and long contract, I'd be leery of going near that right now (they'd probably want Bridges in a deal).

If the Suns are able to win the title this season, I am not sure you'll see major moves. With DA, Bridges, CamJo, CamPa, and Booker still growing, their development alone might be enough of an addition (outside of back of the bench type moves)

I’d forgotten about Siakam’s surgery, yeah I wouldn’t do that remembering that.

[SuperSunsFan]

The perfect situation would have been having Haliburton as the understudy while having payne as the immediate backup then after CP rides to the sunset of retirement letting Haliburton take over the starting role while payne continues to be the backup, basically our Terry/Crawford/lou williams. too bad JJ didn't just do the obvious and pick Haliburton, can we find a way to get Brandon Clarke now his stock is low?

[WeekapaugGroove]

How would Suns fans feel about making a move for Jerami Grant this offseason? Crowder/Smith/pick for Grant type of deal. Feels like a good time to add another long-term piece before extending Ayton/Bridges.

Would the financials work for a similar Siakam deal?

Anywho, congrats on a great run so far and a promising future!

I've long been a fan of Grant and have made plenty of fake trades to get him from OKC and Denver. But I probably wouldn't do that. Crowder makes like half of Grants money and is perfectly content being the 5th option in that starting 5 and doing a bunch of dirty work. Grant left Denver because he wanted a bigger role in the offense.

Not sure why anyone would want to break up this starting 5 that's basically crushed it since that first 20 games or so where they were figuring out how to play together.

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[bwgood77]

Not sure how I missed this...

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[SuperSunsFan]

emma stone is from phoenix, that's how she landed the role in zombieland, the writer was from phoenix and a suns fan too.

[cberry78]

What if Payne is our PG of the Future?

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[Cutter]

We have our core set least for another year Paul-Booker-Ayton, and need to tinker a little further down in the rotation.

I've never been much of a Kevin Love fan when talking about him being in the top 3 options on a championship rotation, However, I am reading that the Cavs could potentially buy him out of his contract. Would a 32 year old, injury prone Love chase a ring and sign with the Suns on a cheaper vet deal. He is super high BBall IQ, very good 3 point shooter and passer, at one point was a legendary rebounder, but also prone to injury. If we released or traded Saric and his $9M per year contract, I would snag Love in a heartbeat to be our first big off the bench. He would play reduced minutes, thus helping preserve his body, and definitely be an upgrade over Dario. Maybe 20 minutes per game, not the focal point of the offense, just let him do what he can do well and run the second unit through him and Payne.

I don't think other teams will offer much for him if he is bought out.

[Cutter]

What if Payne is our PG of the Future?

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I love him off the bench so much, but can't see him run the first unit efficiently.

[lilfishi22]

Dame would be fun but even if he demanded to come to Phoenix it would be very very hard to make the money work in a trade. And it would be virtually impossible considering what they would want back to make the trade and still have a good team left over when you were done.

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Don't flame me but purely a thought experiment

How far do we go with Dame instead of CP3?

How far do we go with Dame instead of Book?

[cberry78]

Dame would be fun but even if he demanded to come to Phoenix it would be very very hard to make the money work in a trade. And it would be virtually impossible considering what they would want back to make the trade and still have a good team left over when you were done.

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Don't flame me but purely a thought experiment

How far do we go with Dame instead of CP3?

How far do we go with Dame instead of Book?

IMO...

Farther with CP3 than with Dame.

CP3/Book === CP3/Dame

[bwgood77]

Dame would be fun but even if he demanded to come to Phoenix it would be very very hard to make the money work in a trade. And it would be virtually impossible considering what they would want back to make the trade and still have a good team left over when you were done.

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Don't flame me but purely a thought experiment

How far do we go with Dame instead of CP3?

How far do we go with Dame instead of Book?

IMO...

Farther with CP3 than with Dame.

CP3/Book === CP3/Dame

Yeah, I think this is about right. I would say Dame over Book as a player however Book as more size and more importantly, I think he is finally adjusting his game after watching and listening to CP3 to get others involved, move the ball around a little more and pick his spots, so in my mind I think he has taken a huge step forward in these playoffs, especially the last 5 games or so as he has really trusted his teammates, his chemistry with others is taking a big leap, especially with Ayton and when he was on fire, he rode it in that game against the Lakers.

I think it's just really balanced our team and I think he is getting better at evaluating the defense and if teams trap him or are about to, he makes them pay by moving it as opposed to trying to dribble through it all the time or take too big of a load on himself. Teams knew they could do that because of his tendencies and force turnovers, and while he still does have quite a few turnovers on occasion, I think he's on the road to cut those down. It really will be interesting to see what it is like post Paul but if we have him another 2 or 3 years I think everyone on the team will really keep growing since they all still have upside and by the time he's gone, they will have learned all they can from him and know what it takes to really elevate as a complete team.

So given where we are headed down the road, I take Book over Lillard, even though maybe Lillard is the better player right now and would have made the team better earlier...now I'd say it's equal and there is no need to tinker with it now and I think Book surpasses him in time, likely very soon.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Dame would be fun but even if he demanded to come to Phoenix it would be very very hard to make the money work in a trade. And it would be virtually impossible considering what they would want back to make the trade and still have a good team left over when you were done.

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Don't flame me but purely a thought experiment

How far do we go with Dame instead of CP3?

How far do we go with Dame instead of Book?

It's a tough question.

Dame instead of Booker presents the issue of Paul and Dame playing together is so damn small it probably wouldn't hold up.

Dame instead of Paul is interesting. You'd be more explosive offensively but worse defensively and while dame is a high IQ player Chris Paul is Chris f-ing Paul so it's a downgrade there too.

Dame is the best individual player of the three but I'm leaning that with this specific team this postseason I'd keep the CP3 and Booker pairing.

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[SunsRback4Good]

Dame would be fun but even if he demanded to come to Phoenix it would be very very hard to make the money work in a trade. And it would be virtually impossible considering what they would want back to make the trade and still have a good team left over when you were done.

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Don't flame me but purely a thought experiment

How far do we go with Dame instead of CP3?

How far do we go with Dame instead of Book?

It's a tough question.

Dame instead of Booker presents the issue of Paul and Dame playing together is so damn small it probably wouldn't hold up.

Dame instead of Paul is interesting. You'd be more explosive offensively but worse defensively and while dame is a high IQ player Chris Paul is Chris f-ing Paul so it's a downgrade there too.

Dame is the best individual player of the three but I'm leaning that with this specific team this postseason I'd keep the CP3 and Booker pairing.

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But would you pull the trigger in trading Frank, Saric & Carter for Dame in pairing him with Cp3 and Booker?

[WeekapaugGroove]

Don't flame me but purely a thought experiment

How far do we go with Dame instead of CP3?

How far do we go with Dame instead of Book?

It's a tough question.

Dame instead of Booker presents the issue of Paul and Dame playing together is so damn small it probably wouldn't hold up.

Dame instead of Paul is interesting. You'd be more explosive offensively but worse defensively and while dame is a high IQ player Chris Paul is Chris f-ing Paul so it's a downgrade there too.

Dame is the best individual player of the three but I'm leaning that with this specific team this postseason I'd keep the CP3 and Booker pairing.

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But would you pull the trigger in trading Frank, Saric & Carter for Dame in pairing him with Cp3 and Booker?

Well of course but Portland wouldn't even if you added every tradeable draft pick.

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[Mulhollanddrive]

If we can get 2 more years out of Chris Paul then trade him in year 3 for his replacement that may be ideal for everyone.

Paul gets his final mega contract and we remain contenders.

[BobbieL]

How would Suns fans feel about making a move for Jerami Grant this offseason? Crowder/Smith/pick for Grant type of deal. Feels like a good time to add another long-term piece before extending Ayton/Bridges.

Would the financials work for a similar Siakam deal?

Anywho, congrats on a great run so far and a promising future!

I've long been a fan of Grant and have made plenty of fake trades to get him from OKC and Denver. But I probably wouldn't do that. Crowder makes like half of Grants money and is perfectly content being the 5th option in that starting 5 and doing a bunch of dirty work. Grant left Denver because he wanted a bigger role in the offense.

Not sure why anyone would want to break up this starting 5 that's basically crushed it since that first 20 games or so where they were figuring out how to play together.

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This! The Suns have a good group of players. I think its important to have players like Crowder that know their role. Chris Paul at PG - coming back is huge. But the Suns core three young players, Booker, Bridges and DA - thats your star power so to speak. Fill in around them

I still like the idea of a TEAM over potential Super team of fantasy football like. People mentioning Damian Lillard - it would cost Booker. Plain and simple and still not sure who else it would take. Its not worth. Grant is a good player but again, would it mess with the chemistry.

This is a good team - don't mess with it too much. Might lose a guy like Craig because of the cap -- but veterans will want to play for this team.