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2020-2021 College/Draft Thread Part 3

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Who do you guys want the most assuming all of these players are within our range

James Bouknight
29
24%
Ayo Dosunmo
7
6%
Tre Mann
15
12%
Davion Mitchell
15
12%
Josh Giddey
22
18%
Jared Butler
10
8%
Ziaire Williams
7
6%
BJ Boston
2
2%
Moses Moody
5
4%
Sharife Cooper
10
8%
 
Total votes: 122

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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread Part 3 

Post#881 » by NewKnicks » Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:20 am

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You never take a guard over a wing if the skillsets are similar, and in this case Cade is actually more skilled offensively.


We will find out. But in the end I think both will be great players, so I don't think you can go wrong with either. And Cade will be the PG on any team that drafts him. You can call him a wing, but he'll be bringing up the ball.



That's even more reason to draft Cade over him :lol: I'm calling Cade a wing because of what he'll most likely be guarding in the NBA, a 6'8" wing with shot creation is the most valuable player type right now, if they can run offense that's an even bigger deal.

I like Suggs, but the ceiling for Cade is just much higher cause of his size.


This is your opinion, and I have my opinion. Both will probably be 10 time All-Stars. You don't have any idea what the ceiling for Suggs is. But we're going back and forth over nothing. I'm literally saying both will be great.
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Post#882 » by NewKnicks » Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:26 am

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I would take Suggs with the #1 pick. The kid is just fantastic. He plays the game the right way, and he's a winner and big shot maker. Good shot for rookie of the year. A lot of people might say I'm crazy for passing up Cade, but I just fell in love with Suggs this year. I watched both of them a lot, and both I think are going to be all-stars. But Suggs is my guy if I'm drafting 1.



You never take a guard over a wing if the skillsets are similar, and in this case Cade is actually more skilled offensively.



Cade & Suggs seems to have highest floor.
Cade definitely has advantage with his size.

Player I like is Green.
His athleticism is best in recent years.
Jumps up with speed & floats in air very Jordan like.
He looks to have highest ceiling.


There is an argument to draft Green #1 too. Could be the best of them all. There is also an argument for Mobley. This draft has the potential to go down as the greatest ever. It's gonna be fun watching all these kids on their respective teams next year. Too bad we don't have a shot at any of them. So happy we won 1 playoff game this year over the potential to get a really great player in this draft. I hate to rehash this, but I still don't get the point of trading for Rose. There is no way the front office thought we were going anywhere. Should have just been bad for one more damn year. It's going to become more and more aggravating too, when these players are drafted, and we start seeing them on the court next year. Oh well.
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread Part 3 

Post#885 » by Davis18 » Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:21 am

NewKnicks wrote:
Davis18 wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:

You never take a guard over a wing if the skillsets are similar, and in this case Cade is actually more skilled offensively.



Cade & Suggs seems to have highest floor.
Cade definitely has advantage with his size.

Player I like is Green.
His athleticism is best in recent years.
Jumps up with speed & floats in air very Jordan like.
He looks to have highest ceiling.


There is an argument to draft Green #1 too. Could be the best of them all. There is also an argument for Mobley. This draft has the potential to go down as the greatest ever. It's gonna be fun watching all these kids on their respective teams next year. Too bad we don't have a shot at any of them. So happy we won 1 playoff game this year over the potential to get a really great player in this draft. I hate to rehash this, but I still don't get the point of trading for Rose. There is no way the front office thought we were going anywhere. Should have just been bad for one more damn year. It's going to become more and more aggravating too, when these players are drafted, and we start seeing them on the court next year. Oh well.


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I am sure Leon & co. will bring in establised players using their connections.
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread Part 3 

Post#886 » by knickstape4ever » Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:38 pm



Boston getting bigger

he and Ziaire had a similar: they weren't physically ready

didn't notice Ziaire looking much bigger in recent photo's or vids, so I'm a bit concerned. but I'd take a chance on both.

perfect scenario would be:

1(19) Bouknight
1(21) Ziaire
2(32) Boston

I'm doubting Bouknight falls tho, seems like his stock is rising back up
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread Part 3 

Post#887 » by The Lamma » Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:31 pm

knickstape4ever wrote:

Boston getting bigger

he and Ziaire had a similar: they weren't physically ready

didn't notice Ziaire looking much bigger in recent photo's or vids, so I'm a bit concerned. but I'd take a chance on both.

perfect scenario would be:

1(19) Bouknight
1(21) Ziaire
2(32) Boston

I'm doubting Bouknight falls tho, seems like his stock is rising back up


Keep seeing Boston mocked in the early 2nd, doubt he makes it that far either... some team is going to roll the dice on him in the 20s. High reward, low risk at that point.
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Post#888 » by camillepd » Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:13 pm

My Knicks draft picks as of today:

1(19) Chris Duarte—SG
1(21) Johnny Juzang—SF
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Post#889 » by Fat » Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:48 pm

The Lamma wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:

Boston getting bigger

he and Ziaire had a similar: they weren't physically ready

didn't notice Ziaire looking much bigger in recent photo's or vids, so I'm a bit concerned. but I'd take a chance on both.

perfect scenario would be:

1(19) Bouknight
1(21) Ziaire
2(32) Boston

I'm doubting Bouknight falls tho, seems like his stock is rising back up


Keep seeing Boston mocked in the early 2nd, doubt he makes it that far either... some team is going to roll the dice on him in the 20s. High reward, low risk at that point.


Thunder or rockets could easily take him I think the rockets have like 3 first round picks. If the Knicks are interested they’d have to take him 19
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Post#890 » by waya » Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:51 pm

Just started absorbing information/videos on these kids and I immediately understand the Bouknight hype. Wouldnt even be mad if we packaged the picks to move up and get him.

If not, either Tre Mann or Ayo Dosunmu would be nice consolation picks
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Post#891 » by TBri1974 » Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:20 pm

I think Wagner falls and we grab him. He's not an upside player as much as some of these others are, but a really solid, plug-n-play defender with positional versatility. I am still on the youth train and would love to see us use at least 3 of our picks, but realistically I think we don't bring in more than 2 rookies.
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Post#892 » by Richard4444 » Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:03 am

I believe we will try to trade up or trade out for sure. But I think a deal is unlikely.

Packaging both FRPs to trade up only makes sense to get a potential star that drops around 13/18 (Bouknight, Giddey, or Mitchell). I don't think it's a good deal trading up only to get a role player like Isaiah Jackson/Wagner. Its better to get 19 and 21 pick players then.

Trade out to get a vet is also tough. I don't believe there are many teams that want to start over and trade good vets for pick(s). Maybe Grant, Barnes, and CJ could be options. Indiana could start over but with the coach changing, I believe they will test the current rester first. Wizards and Portland should not trade their stars at draft night too. It would be stupid to give FRP to get bad contracts like Kemba, Wall and Buddy.
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Post#893 » by WargamesX » Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:40 am

Angryfatboy wrote:
The Lamma wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:

Boston getting bigger

he and Ziaire had a similar: they weren't physically ready

didn't notice Ziaire looking much bigger in recent photo's or vids, so I'm a bit concerned. but I'd take a chance on both.

perfect scenario would be:

1(19) Bouknight
1(21) Ziaire
2(32) Boston

I'm doubting Bouknight falls tho, seems like his stock is rising back up


Keep seeing Boston mocked in the early 2nd, doubt he makes it that far either... some team is going to roll the dice on him in the 20s. High reward, low risk at that point.


Thunder or rockets could easily take him I think the rockets have like 3 first round picks. If the Knicks are interested they’d have to take him 19

Yeah I definitely could see those two teams taking a flyer on him. They have 3-5 seasons of development in front of them so why not take a flyer.
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3toheadmelo wrote:Yes!!! We working out Bones Hyland

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But Hyland will have workouts with the Utah Jazz and New York Knicks before the combine, Walton said, then about nine more afterward.

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Post#898 » by TheGreenArrow » Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:01 pm

knickstape4ever wrote:

Boston getting bigger

he and Ziaire had a similar: they weren't physically ready

didn't notice Ziaire looking much bigger in recent photo's or vids, so I'm a bit concerned. but I'd take a chance on both.

perfect scenario would be:

1(19) Bouknight
1(21) Ziaire
2(32) Boston

I'm doubting Bouknight falls tho, seems like his stock is rising back up


Add giddey to the list at as another option if Bouknight is gone!!!!!

That’s my top 4!!!!!!!!
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Post#899 » by Marty McFly » Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:05 pm

I've seen some highlights of the top prospects in this draft, and sure it's not totally telling of the talent, but I think this team needs to find a way to trade up into the top 2. they legit need to offer someone a grandfather deal everyone should be available including the cap space to take on bad contracts, cause lets be real, the knicks aren't signing any big time talent with all that cap space.
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Post#900 » by DaGawd » Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:17 pm

Marty McFly wrote:I've seen some highlights of the top prospects in this draft, and sure it's not totally telling of the talent, but I think this team needs to find a way to trade up into the top 2. they legit need to offer someone a grandfather deal everyone should be available including the cap space to take on bad contracts, cause lets be real, the knicks aren't signing any big time talent with all that cap space.

The only player on the roster that probably put us over in a package to acquire a top 2 pick is Barrett
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