The Rebel wrote:Right now it appears that the Trailblazers are going to try to get a new star and reshuffling the deck one more time before they lose Dame. I could see them going after Siakam if nothing else comes up. I wonder if we maybe able to help them if Barton doesn't opt out?
I don't think Toronto would want McCullom, but I can see them wanting picks and cap space. They have to add at least 1 decent free agent Center and re-sign Gary Trent JR, with the emergence of Anunoby and Boucher and their draft history I could see extra picks being a bigger priority for them.
The Blazers traded for Covington who realistically is a poor man's siakam in many ways, they desperatly need better forwards, and with the Powell acquisition and Simons playing decent off the bench they can afford to lose McCullom to get the forwards they need.
Toronto would trade Siakam for Green, Bol, Jones Jr, a Denver 1st, and a 2023 Portland 1st round pick.
Blazers trade McCullom and Jones Jr for Siakam and Barton.
Nuggets trade Barton, Green, Bol, and 25th overall pick for McCullom
We add a huge contract to the payroll for the next 3 years but it gives us a lineup of Murray/McCullom/ Gordon/ MPJ/ Jokic when healthy for the next 3 years. McCullom is one of only a few guys who is comfortable on or off the ball while still being able to score 20+ ppg so he would be a great fit on our offense and he can defend despite not defending the last couple of years due to having to help carry so much of the offense. If we bring back Rivers and Howard that will give us Murray (late in season), McCullom, Morris, Campazzo, Dozier, with those 2 so we would have plenty of guard depth and with Dozier having his size and Length we have backup SF covered as well.
It would leave us with MPJ, Gordon, NNaji, and Cancar as our only forwards, but we would have the TPE and/or full MLE to get another forward and find a backup Center or two.
Only issue I have is McCollums 3yrs at $30M+. We’re not giving a lot of value but even with that a late 1st seems a bit much
Texas Chuck wrote:I'd like to see Utah, and Denver lose
With the close relationship Malone has with Joker, you really think that is viable right now ? Our demise this season vs PHX is more attributable to Murray going down than being out coached
Texas Chuck wrote:I'd like to see Utah, and Denver lose
With the close relationship Malone has with Joker, you really think that is viable right now ? Our demise this season vs PHX is more attributable to Murray going down than being out coached
You can see how *happy* Jokic now and enjoying the moment with making career first flagrant foul #2 and first flagrant foul since 2017 in do or die game. What saves so far Malone is not Jokic for sure but Kroenke happiness with a team that reaching TOP3 seed on the West 3 seasons in the row and winning 1st round of the playoff too. He is not asking for more no matter how talented is the core of this roster.
But if anything cost Malone's seat is his ability to make young talented player unhappy and hurt, so we lost Nurkic, Beasley, Grant... but risking such a scenario with future all-star Porter Jr would be a little bit too much even for Kroenke and Connely patience.
With the close relationship Malone has with Joker, you really think that is viable right now ? Our demise this season vs PHX is more attributable to Murray going down than being out coached
You can see how *happy* Jokic now and enjoying the moment with making career first flagrant foul #2 and first flagrant foul since 2017 in do or die game. What saves so far Malone is not Jokic for sure but Kroenke happiness with a team that reaching TOP3 seed on the West 3 seasons in the row and winning 1st round of the playoff too. He is not asking for more no matter how talented is the core of this roster.
But if anything cost Malone's seat is his ability to make young talented player unhappy and hurt, so we lost Nurkic, Beasley, Grant... but risking such a scenario with future all-star Porter Jr would be a little bit too much even for Kroenke and Connely patience.
What are you even talking about? JOkic was obviously pissed at the refs and the situation, Malone did not injure Murray, and he was not the one out there playing scared or giving little effort. None of that is on Malone, that is on the players themselves.
Why do you keep acting like MPJ and Malone have issues? From everything I have seen and read they get along well and MPJ likes that Malone is holding him accountable to become an all around player.
I don't think this team needs major changes, but I think they need to do a series of deals to fill the holes. I do think we can get the guys we need though.
Use our TPE to trade Bol for Marvin Bagley and the 39th overall pick
The Kings reportedly have been shopping Bagley for a year, and it sounds like bagley and his father really want out. While his defense leaves a lot to be desired he can score. I see him coming off the bench at center to at least give us a scoring Center while Jokic is out. I think that he has some potential to fit into the Jokic role on defense, as Bagley's biggest issues are lack of lateral quickness, not strong enough to guard starting Centers, and not a rim protector.
Draft Greg Brown at 25th
Draft Petrusev as a project in the 2nd round and sign him to a 2 way deal
While I know many want guards in the draft, I prefer to take a couple of projects and get the guards we need in other ways.
trade JayMichael Green for Josh Richardson and Tyler Bey
Richardson is a terrible fit in the Mav's offense, he is a guy that needs the ball in his hands more often than he will ever see in Dallas, plus they are about $4 million short on a max contract slot, this opens that room. To me Richardson has always been a poor man's pre-injury Gary Harris. He can start and defend the better of the opposing guards while running a play occasionally with Jokic and cutting off the ball. He is a good enough 3 point shooter that teams have to defend him outside as well.
Sign Malik Monk for the full MLE.
The Hornets have about 9 other guards on their roster right now and their Centers are expiring. They desperately need bigs and with Ball, Rozier, Graham, and the Martins they can afford to lose Monk just to open up a roster spot for some forwards and Centers. Monk gives us the shooter/scorer that can come off the bench and provide the scoring when the starters are struggling.
Sign Marc Gasol to a minimum deal
Gasol is about done, but he can still defend, shoot, and Pass. Against big teams or when Jokic is in foul trouble he can play a few minutes and our offense does not have to totally change and he should be able to play Jokic's role on defense.
Re-sign Howard on the other 2 way deal
gives us Morris/ Campazzo/ Howard (Murray) Richardson/ Monk/ Bey Gordon/ Dozier/ Brown MPJ/ NNaji/ Cancar Jokic/ Bagley/ Gasol/ Petrusev
I think it fixes our biggest issues, we get a defensive SG not totally worthless on offense, 2 scorers off the bench to go with our defenders, and some good depth with 3 high upside young guys.
The Rebel wrote:I don't think this team needs major changes, but I think they need to do a series of deals to fill the holes. I do think we can get the guys we need though.
Use our TPE to trade Bol for Marvin Bagley and the 39th overall pick
The Kings reportedly have been shopping Bagley for a year, and it sounds like bagley and his father really want out. While his defense leaves a lot to be desired he can score. I see him coming off the bench at center to at least give us a scoring Center while Jokic is out. I think that he has some potential to fit into the Jokic role on defense, as Bagley's biggest issues are lack of lateral quickness, not strong enough to guard starting Centers, and not a rim protector.
Draft Greg Brown at 25th
Draft Petrusev as a project in the 2nd round and sign him to a 2 way deal
While I know many want guards in the draft, I prefer to take a couple of projects and get the guards we need in other ways.
trade JayMichael Green for Josh Richardson and Tyler Bey
Richardson is a terrible fit in the Mav's offense, he is a guy that needs the ball in his hands more often than he will ever see in Dallas, plus they are about $4 million short on a max contract slot, this opens that room. To me Richardson has always been a poor man's pre-injury Gary Harris. He can start and defend the better of the opposing guards while running a play occasionally with Jokic and cutting off the ball. He is a good enough 3 point shooter that teams have to defend him outside as well.
Sign Malik Monk for the full MLE.
The Hornets have about 9 other guards on their roster right now and their Centers are expiring. They desperately need bigs and with Ball, Rozier, Graham, and the Martins they can afford to lose Monk just to open up a roster spot for some forwards and Centers. Monk gives us the shooter/scorer that can come off the bench and provide the scoring when the starters are struggling.
Sign Marc Gasol to a minimum deal
Gasol is about done, but he can still defend, shoot, and Pass. Against big teams or when Jokic is in foul trouble he can play a few minutes and our offense does not have to totally change and he should be able to play Jokic's role on defense.
Re-sign Howard on the other 2 way deal
gives us Morris/ Campazzo/ Howard (Murray) Richardson/ Monk/ Bey Gordon/ Dozier/ Brown MPJ/ NNaji/ Cancar Jokic/ Bagley/ Gasol/ Petrusev
I think it fixes our biggest issues, we get a defensive SG not totally worthless on offense, 2 scorers off the bench to go with our defenders, and some good depth with 3 high upside young guys.
You must really feel we need some size and redundancy, let's take a look:
Tou have us adding PF/C Bagley, C Petrusev, and C Marc Gasol and SF/PF Brown, all but 1 are 3rd stringers. Seems very odd to add 3 backup Centers to a team that has rarely used size at that position, we usually go small-ball.
Not sure you could get Rich AND Bey for JaMychel, besides, Bey is a defensive SF who I thought DAL was high on, adding Brown on top of that seems a bit redundant. I do like Josh at SG more than at SF. Lastly, salaries don't match either.
Even though I'm not a huge Monk fan, I think he'd fit perfectly as a 6th man for this team, you nailed that. Gotta say that's my favorite move in your proposal if we can get him before any other teams does.
Interestingly enough, you say no major moves yet you add 7 new players to this roster, that's nearly 1/2 of it.
Texas Chuck wrote:I'd like to see Utah, and Denver lose
skywalker33 wrote:Joker seems to want to be the "Joe Williams" of our forum, always wanting to hyper-accentuate the negative, perhaps to drum up conversation, not sure.
Brought back memories of Irv Brown but your point seems accurate. Obviously, he/she is not a fan of Malone. I am. I think he did a masterfield job especially after Murray went down.
Speaking of Murray, the best case scenario is full recovery by March 2022. That means they need to either elevate a point guard or find a 2-guard to fill the vacuum until Murray can return. I think Barton opts out and is gone. Rivers is a backup.
Millsap had strong games at times but mostly disappeared, especially in the playoffs. If he were to come back on a veterans minimum, I could see him retained, if for nothing else to keep veteran leadership. The loss of so many players at the end of last season had an impact, especially on Millsap who is obviously slipping and needed more guard scoring help to be effective. Since he is the same age as Lebron, makes you wonder just how long Millsap and LBJ have left.
Denver is running low on trade assets because they don't want to break up their big four of Jokic, Murray, MPJ and Gordon. With Gordon I know there's some sentiment that he could have made a bigger difference but I thought bringing him in at the trade deadline would mean some transition issues. His defensive presence was impactful. With MPJ as the primary outside shooter (without many assists), Gordon's offensive game was going to suffer. He was brought in to stop Lebron but he helped out mightily against Lillard.
That back injury with MPJ, can't be ignored. I hope for some positive news in that regard and since he played plenty of minutes, it is likely a muscle sprain.
Joker is the MVP, that is all.
So that leaves the 2-guard; is it Barton brought back on a raise or is it a free agent in the MLE range?
The Rebel wrote:I don't think this team needs major changes, but I think they need to do a series of deals to fill the holes. I do think we can get the guys we need though.
Use our TPE to trade Bol for Marvin Bagley and the 39th overall pick
The Kings reportedly have been shopping Bagley for a year, and it sounds like bagley and his father really want out. While his defense leaves a lot to be desired he can score. I see him coming off the bench at center to at least give us a scoring Center while Jokic is out. I think that he has some potential to fit into the Jokic role on defense, as Bagley's biggest issues are lack of lateral quickness, not strong enough to guard starting Centers, and not a rim protector.
Draft Greg Brown at 25th
Draft Petrusev as a project in the 2nd round and sign him to a 2 way deal
While I know many want guards in the draft, I prefer to take a couple of projects and get the guards we need in other ways.
trade JayMichael Green for Josh Richardson and Tyler Bey
Richardson is a terrible fit in the Mav's offense, he is a guy that needs the ball in his hands more often than he will ever see in Dallas, plus they are about $4 million short on a max contract slot, this opens that room. To me Richardson has always been a poor man's pre-injury Gary Harris. He can start and defend the better of the opposing guards while running a play occasionally with Jokic and cutting off the ball. He is a good enough 3 point shooter that teams have to defend him outside as well.
Sign Malik Monk for the full MLE.
The Hornets have about 9 other guards on their roster right now and their Centers are expiring. They desperately need bigs and with Ball, Rozier, Graham, and the Martins they can afford to lose Monk just to open up a roster spot for some forwards and Centers. Monk gives us the shooter/scorer that can come off the bench and provide the scoring when the starters are struggling.
Sign Marc Gasol to a minimum deal
Gasol is about done, but he can still defend, shoot, and Pass. Against big teams or when Jokic is in foul trouble he can play a few minutes and our offense does not have to totally change and he should be able to play Jokic's role on defense.
Re-sign Howard on the other 2 way deal
gives us Morris/ Campazzo/ Howard (Murray) Richardson/ Monk/ Bey Gordon/ Dozier/ Brown MPJ/ NNaji/ Cancar Jokic/ Bagley/ Gasol/ Petrusev
I think it fixes our biggest issues, we get a defensive SG not totally worthless on offense, 2 scorers off the bench to go with our defenders, and some good depth with 3 high upside young guys.
You must really feel we need some size and redundancy, let's take a look:
Tou have us adding PF/C Bagley, C Petrusev, and C Marc Gasol and SF/PF Brown, all but 1 are 3rd stringers. Seems very odd to add 3 backup Centers to a team that has rarely used size at that position, we usually go small-ball.
Petrusev is likely going to spend the year in Europe, hopefully he learns to give more effort and energy, but I think if he figures things out he would make a great Jokic backup since many of his issues on both ends are very similar to Jokic.
Bagley is taking a flyer on a guy with huge potential that has not worked out with his current team. If he does great than we have a guy to sign and trade in a year, if he stays the same player he was in Sacramento than we have a bench scoring big that can destroy other team's bench guys since half of our bench cannot score anymore.
Gasol is only there for emergencies and the rare nights when we need good size off the bench.
All 3 are needs, we need a long term development guy, we need a bench scorer, and we need a good true bench center that can fiti in our system.
skywalker33 wrote:Not sure you could get Rich AND Bey for JaMychel, besides, Bey is a defensive SF who I thought DAL was high on, adding Brown on top of that seems a bit redundant. I do like Josh at SG more than at SF. Lastly, salaries don't match either.
Because the outgoing salary is less than $10 million you can take the amount sent out and up to $5 million more, and you only have to have a clear 2 way deal to take back a player on a 2 way contract, so it works under trade rules.
With Nelson being fired and Carlisle quitting there is going to be a ton of pressure on the front office to get something done. They are about $4 million away from clearing cap space, and it is obvious that Richardson did not work out there, they have to move him or Porzingis and I doubt they get anything worth moving Porzingis for at this point. With so little in draft capital any time soon they are going to have to give up something. So this could be their best option.
I disagree that Brown and Bey are redundant, while they are both defenders, Bey has always been best at guards while Brown is good against larger SFs and stretch 4s. Two distinct roles that we need filled, this way we fill those roles with guys who have long term upside.
skywalker33 wrote:Even though I'm not a huge Monk fan, I think he'd fit perfectly as a 6th man for this team, you nailed that. Gotta say that's my favorite move in your proposal if we can get him before any other teams does.
At least we agree on something.
skywalker33 wrote:Interestingly enough, you say no major moves yet you add 7 new players to this roster, that's nearly 1/2 of it.
We all know that major moves means trading guys with value. Adding 7 fringe players to the 6 from last year that didn't work out and Millsap aging out is not a major move, it is what has to happen.
I think Barton would actually be a good fit with the Pelicans, he can be the veteran utility guy they really need. I wonder if we could convince them to sign and trade us Ball? I could see Ball getting a 4 year deal starting at $15 million a year, which would put him around a 4 year $63 million deal. I can see Barton signing a deal for 3 years $35 million a year, or just over the MLE. If the Pelicans give him a declining deal starting at $12 million than we could do a double sign and trade getting us back Ball.
The Rebel wrote:Right now it appears that the Trailblazers are going to try to get a new star and reshuffling the deck one more time before they lose Dame. I could see them going after Siakam if nothing else comes up. I wonder if we maybe able to help them if Barton doesn't opt out?
I don't think Toronto would want McCullom, but I can see them wanting picks and cap space. They have to add at least 1 decent free agent Center and re-sign Gary Trent JR, with the emergence of Anunoby and Boucher and their draft history I could see extra picks being a bigger priority for them.
The Blazers traded for Covington who realistically is a poor man's siakam in many ways, they desperatly need better forwards, and with the Powell acquisition and Simons playing decent off the bench they can afford to lose McCullom to get the forwards they need.
Toronto would trade Siakam for Green, Bol, Jones Jr, a Denver 1st, and a 2023 Portland 1st round pick.
Blazers trade McCullom and Jones Jr for Siakam and Barton.
Nuggets trade Barton, Green, Bol, and 25th overall pick for McCullom
We add a huge contract to the payroll for the next 3 years but it gives us a lineup of Murray/McCullom/ Gordon/ MPJ/ Jokic when healthy for the next 3 years. McCullom is one of only a few guys who is comfortable on or off the ball while still being able to score 20+ ppg so he would be a great fit on our offense and he can defend despite not defending the last couple of years due to having to help carry so much of the offense. If we bring back Rivers and Howard that will give us Murray (late in season), McCullom, Morris, Campazzo, Dozier, with those 2 so we would have plenty of guard depth and with Dozier having his size and Length we have backup SF covered as well.
It would leave us with MPJ, Gordon, NNaji, and Cancar as our only forwards, but we would have the TPE and/or full MLE to get another forward and find a backup Center or two.
Only issue I have is McCollums 3yrs at $30M+. We’re not giving a lot of value but even with that a late 1st seems a bit much
CJ McCollum would be a great addition. But that money would be a concern (after 2021-2022). You’d prob be knowing you either have to move him or AG
Would it be enough if we could get a SF-SG solid defender? He doesn't have to be a great shooter if he can set back picks and cut to the basket a lot - a hustle guy.
A second choice would be a SG-PG solid defender of a similar nature.
Given all the noise about him needing a change of circumstance to revive his confidence and enhance his impact, would Ben Simmons be an appealing offseason target? He can play any position depending on team need. With Porter and Jokic spacing the floor, the Nuggets can accommodate his need to shoot from midrange or closer. I think the team desperately needs the kind of defensive versatility he brings, and I can't help but think that Jokic would help him find and accept his right role. Simmons is a good playmaker but not assertive floor general, but he wouldn't need to be that in Denver.
longtallbrad wrote:Given all the noise about him needing a change of circumstance to revive his confidence and enhance his impact, would Ben Simmons be an appealing offseason target? He can play any position depending on team need. With Porter and Jokic spacing the floor, the Nuggets can accommodate his need to shoot from midrange or closer. I think the team desperately needs the kind of defensive versatility he brings, and I can't help but think that Jokic would help him find and accept his right role. Simmons is a good playmaker but not assertive floor general, but he wouldn't need to be that in Denver.
But Jokic is most often in the high post, which might not work well with Simmons - crowding each other. When not in the high post, Jokic is usually in the low post - which doesn't work well with Simmons.
longtallbrad wrote:Given all the noise about him needing a change of circumstance to revive his confidence and enhance his impact, would Ben Simmons be an appealing offseason target? He can play any position depending on team need. With Porter and Jokic spacing the floor, the Nuggets can accommodate his need to shoot from midrange or closer. I think the team desperately needs the kind of defensive versatility he brings, and I can't help but think that Jokic would help him find and accept his right role. Simmons is a good playmaker but not assertive floor general, but he wouldn't need to be that in Denver.
But Jokic is most often in the high post, which might not work well with Simmons - crowding each other. When not in the high post, Jokic is usually in the low post - which doesn't work well with Simmons.
Well, I can't disagree. I'm just eager for the Nuggets to improve defensively, especially in the backcourt. Maybe Marcus Smart...less versatile on D but he has a perimeter game.
longtallbrad wrote:Given all the noise about him needing a change of circumstance to revive his confidence and enhance his impact, would Ben Simmons be an appealing offseason target? He can play any position depending on team need. With Porter and Jokic spacing the floor, the Nuggets can accommodate his need to shoot from midrange or closer. I think the team desperately needs the kind of defensive versatility he brings, and I can't help but think that Jokic would help him find and accept his right role. Simmons is a good playmaker but not assertive floor general, but he wouldn't need to be that in Denver.
But Jokic is most often in the high post, which might not work well with Simmons - crowding each other. When not in the high post, Jokic is usually in the low post - which doesn't work well with Simmons.
Well, I can't disagree. I'm just eager for the Nuggets to improve defensively, especially in the backcourt. Maybe Marcus Smart...less versatile on D but he has a perimeter game.
I like Smart at this point in his career as well as the idea of getter better defensively but not sure we have the assets to obtain Smart. However, feels like Dozier can come back and help us out at that position, seems his injury got overlooked with the impact he would've had for us against PHX IMO. I've never liked the fit of Ben Simmons here, he'd distract from Joker's game more than add to it IMO.
Texas Chuck wrote:I'd like to see Utah, and Denver lose
NuggetsWY wrote:Would it be enough if we could get a SF-SG solid defender? He doesn't have to be a great shooter if he can set back picks and cut to the basket a lot - a hustle guy.
A second choice would be a SG-PG solid defender of a similar nature.
I disagree, we have plenty of hustle guys, we need guys who can shoot. Campazzo, Dozier, Cancar, Harrison, McGee, Green, and even Gordon are hustle guys at their core, but all are too streaky to force the defenses to cover them on offense.
The Trailblazers and Suns both played modified box and 1 zone defense against us in the playoffs, hell last playoffs the Clippers and Jazz did as well, they have their guys sitting on the edge of the paint ready to run out at shooters but not really covering guys without the ball outside of Jokic. back picks and cutting do not work when you have 3 guys standing just outside of the lane waiting for someone to come into the lane. Murray made them pay last year, but that is why our offense becomes basically a 2 man game or this year falls all on Jokic, as the defenses do not have to cover the rest of them.
We need 2 knockdown shooters on the court at all times for our offense to work. Without them then we are depending on Jokic and Murray to carry us in the playoffs and that is not going to lead to a championship.
NuggetsWY wrote:But Jokic is most often in the high post, which might not work well with Simmons - crowding each other. When not in the high post, Jokic is usually in the low post - which doesn't work well with Simmons.
Well, I can't disagree. I'm just eager for the Nuggets to improve defensively, especially in the backcourt. Maybe Marcus Smart...less versatile on D but he has a perimeter game.
I like Smart at this point in his career as well as the idea of getter better defensively but not sure we have the assets to obtain Smart. However, feels like Dozier can come back and help us out at that position, seems his injury got overlooked with the impact he would've had for us against PHX IMO. I've never liked the fit of Ben Simmons here, he'd distract from Joker's game more than add to it IMO.
I could see an offense with Jokic and Simmons working if Simmons brought back his floater and mid range game, but those seem to have disappeared. You could play Simmons at forward with MPJ and have a great perimeter defender and a developing great shooter. Have him play in the dunker position and setting screens to get guys open and rolling to the rim. Get a knock down shooter at SG and when Murray comes back than you have Jokic and Simmons working the paint with shooters around the court that they have to defend. Teams did it for 50 years prior to the Warriors and that was using a lot of mid range shooters, and I think with Jokic's shooting/passing it could work very well even today.
The issue is that I do not see Simmons to be willing to play off the ball. We need a shooter to run the 2 man game with Jokic, so he would be almost strictly off the ball. Also is a defender that cannot shoot really worth a max deal? I don't think he is.
I would not mind a guy like Smart, in fact I think we could really use him and his attitude, but I doubt the Celtics trade him anytime soon.
NuggetsWY wrote:Would it be enough if we could get a SF-SG solid defender? He doesn't have to be a great shooter if he can set back picks and cut to the basket a lot - a hustle guy.
A second choice would be a SG-PG solid defender of a similar nature.
I disagree, we have plenty of hustle guys, we need guys who can shoot. Campazzo, Dozier, Cancar, Harrison, McGee, Green, and even Gordon are hustle guys at their core, but all are too streaky to force the defenses to cover them on offense.
The Trailblazers and Suns both played modified box and 1 zone defense against us in the playoffs, hell last playoffs the Clippers and Jazz did as well, they have their guys sitting on the edge of the paint ready to run out at shooters but not really covering guys without the ball outside of Jokic. back picks and cutting do not work when you have 3 guys standing just outside of the lane waiting for someone to come into the lane. Murray made them pay last year, but that is why our offense becomes basically a 2 man game or this year falls all on Jokic, as the defenses do not have to cover the rest of them.
We need 2 knockdown shooters on the court at all times for our offense to work. Without them then we are depending on Jokic and Murray to carry us in the playoffs and that is not going to lead to a championship.
Won't disagree too much, but what I saw this year was quite a few players standing around watching Jokic when he had the ball. If he has the ball, everyone needs to be moving IMO. That's how he can drop even more assists.
I've said for a couple of years, the more Jokic shoots, the more assists he'll get and the more assists he gets, the more open shots he'll get. He took more shots this year and had more assists --- but I'm greedy and truly believe he can get more assists which will lead to more open shots --- and I love that cycle.
As you say, "knock down shooters" and Porter is perfect for that IMO. He stands outside ready to shoot, but he'll also dive to the basket sometimes. Finding another similar wing and then having someone running the baseline; now that's when Jokic can really shine. I truly believe he can win multiple MVPs - even though that isn't what motivates him. But all those W's will make his smile grow.