MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021

[BenoUdrihFTL]

Not sure I'd give Duncan what he will command on the open market, and I don't even know what that number is, but something that should be noted: he suited up and started every game this season, you can count on one hand the players who did so across the league. There's a certain value in that, especially given the propensity of a lot of our guys to miss games here and there throughout the season

There’s also value in what that dude does for the team’s offense, who are you replacing that with?

But what Duncan are we talking about, 2020 Duncan who went 45% from 3 or 2021 Duncan who slipped to 41%? The former added an incredible dimension to our offense but the latter was underwhelming, especially considering how much shot clock was burned trying to get him open every possession. He closed the regular season strong tho so I do have hope he can get back closer to 2020 level next year

I'm in favor of re-signing Duncan at $15 or even $16 per, it's the talk of $20 per that scares me

[Hallstar]

Not sure I'd give Duncan what he will command on the open market, and I don't even know what that number is, but something that should be noted: he suited up and started every game this season, you can count on one hand the players who did so across the league. There's a certain value in that, especially given the propensity of a lot of our guys to miss games here and there throughout the season

There’s also value in what that dude does for the team’s offense, who are you replacing that with?

we're one of the worst offenses in the league, getting Duncan shots is the least of my concerns

[Flash4thewin]

Not sure I'd give Duncan what he will command on the open market, and I don't even know what that number is, but something that should be noted: he suited up and started every game this season, you can count on one hand the players who did so across the league. There's a certain value in that, especially given the propensity of a lot of our guys to miss games here and there throughout the season

There’s also value in what that dude does for the team’s offense, who are you replacing that with?

But what Duncan are we talking about, 2020 Duncan who went 45% from 3 or 2021 Duncan who slipped to 41%? The former added an incredible dimension to our offense but the latter was underwhelming, especially considering how much shot clock was burned trying to get him open every possession. He closed the regular season strong tho so I do have hope he can get back closer to 2020 level next year

I'm in favor of re-signing Duncan at $15 or even $16 per, it's the talk of $20 per that scares me

The Cap basically goes up every year and be has improved year to year. I don’t know what the market will dictate but even at 20 mil he will be a tradable asset.

[SoFlaKingReal]

Gotta let Duncan go....can't pay 15+ mil/year longterm to someone so horrific on defense.

[Kobewade11]

We have no choice. Its interesting that the Bucks game plan was to stop Duncan at all cost. They made Butler look like Ben Simmons at the 3 point line. We have no choice but to match, the ideal thing would have been to go for Harden but that didnt happen.

Also remember the Raps are perfectly ok with letting Lowry walk, they wont do a sign and trade for trash. If a trade is made it will be on there terms. That means either we give them the player they want, or we renounce everyone but Duncan and Nunn. That means we have to match both offers and then we will have under 5 mil for a starting PF.

We do have a choice, the choice is letting him walk.

[JLop]

Whatever.

Personally, I wanted it to be called BBC Arena.

I prefer the "C.B.A" - Cafe Bustelo Arena...

Spoiler:

[JLop]

https://www.inquirer.com/sixers/tj-mcconnell-jimmy-butler-sixers-golden-state-warriors-heart-soul-20190131.html

Figure out a way to sign TJ McConnell. Butler loves him and would be a great option for the price at PG.

[BenoUdrihFTL]

Who says no?

[twix2500]

So Ethan says Heat are planning on locking up Robinson for about 15 mill per yr

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[BenoUdrihFTL]

So Ethan says Heat are planning on locking up Robinson for about 15 mill per yr

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Pretty happy with that. Hopefully it happens

[twix2500]

Ethan also says Heat are planning to go after Andre Drummond and Steven Adams

Which means to me that Achiuwa will a trading piece

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[NBADraft2003]

Not sure I'd give Duncan what he will command on the open market, and I don't even know what that number is, but something that should be noted: he suited up and started every game this season, you can count on one hand the players who did so across the league. There's a certain value in that, especially given the propensity of a lot of our guys to miss games here and there throughout the season

There’s also value in what that dude does for the team’s offense, who are you replacing that with?

But what Duncan are we talking about, 2020 Duncan who went 45% from 3 or 2021 Duncan who slipped to 41%? The former added an incredible dimension to our offense but the latter was underwhelming, especially considering how much shot clock was burned trying to get him open every possession. He closed the regular season strong tho so I do have hope he can get back closer to 2020 level next year

I'm in favor of re-signing Duncan at $15 or even $16 per, it's the talk of $20 per that scares me

We talking like 41% on 9 attempts per game isn’t elite. That down year is a career year for majority in the league. How was he underwhelming? The shot clock thing isn’t on him, look at the coaching staff on that issue as well as your star players. He came back a better player this year than he was last year, a more consistent effort on D, the passing out of the traps coming off handoffs, etc.

Not sure I'd give Duncan what he will command on the open market, and I don't even know what that number is, but something that should be noted: he suited up and started every game this season, you can count on one hand the players who did so across the league. There's a certain value in that, especially given the propensity of a lot of our guys to miss games here and there throughout the season

There’s also value in what that dude does for the team’s offense, who are you replacing that with?

we're one of the worst offenses in the league, getting Duncan shots is the least of my concerns

It’s not about getting him shots, it’s about what he does for chit spacing this team has. Nobody on the roster comes close to the shooter that he is. The attention he gets from opposing teams says enough.

[IggieCC]

If Dre wasn't good next to AD...Next to Bam...

he's a very interesting player in that he can easily get a double double in 15-20 mins and barely make any positive impact on the game.

that was the impression I got when he was with the Pistons and virtually no change with the Lakers.

a prime example of raw talent didn't meet desire/work ethic/natural basketball abilities

Big men just can't get by only being post threats, gotta provide other things.

yes bish i agree with the general sentiment.

in Dre's case, I almost truly believe that he has the physical tools to be dominant esp. in today's small ball NBA if he had like Draymond type fire in him. Instead, he has horribly buttery hands and is usually playing like he's half asleep. Teams been fooled and we could be easily fooled as well that "culture" will turn this man into a monster he can be.. but it's probably not happening coz he's just innately a sweet boy. the biggest what could have been since Wayne Simien you bet bish

[MettaWorldPanda]

5 reasons predicts Spo will be on Portland's radar for a coach/front office position.

oh pls god make this happen

Let Spo go to Portland for a draft pick and we bring back Juwan Howard with Fizdale as his assistant. Long overdue change of scenery.

[IggieCC]

Who says no?

[DayofMourning]

Ethan also says Heat are planning to go after Andre Drummond and Steven Adams

Which means to me that Achiuwa will a trading piece

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Steven Adams....don't play with my emotions, Ethan.

[marson]

Gotta let Duncan go....can't pay 15+ mil/year longterm to someone so horrific on defense.

No one plays defense anyway

Just have to adapt to this NBA meta. I know it sucks, but we have to keep bombing these threes.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Ethan also says Heat are planning to go after Andre Drummond and Steven Adams

Which means to me that Achiuwa will a trading piece

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Steven Adams....don't play with my emotions, Ethan.

Would really like Steven Adams down here.

[DayofMourning]

Ethan also says Heat are planning to go after Andre Drummond and Steven Adams

Which means to me that Achiuwa will a trading piece

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Steven Adams....don't play with my emotions, Ethan.

Would really like Steven Adams down here.

I just like the dude at a human level. He has some deficits as a player that can't be fixed but dudes a beast.

[BenoUdrihFTL]

There’s also value in what that dude does for the team’s offense, who are you replacing that with?

But what Duncan are we talking about, 2020 Duncan who went 45% from 3 or 2021 Duncan who slipped to 41%? The former added an incredible dimension to our offense but the latter was underwhelming, especially considering how much shot clock was burned trying to get him open every possession. He closed the regular season strong tho so I do have hope he can get back closer to 2020 level next year

I'm in favor of re-signing Duncan at $15 or even $16 per, it's the talk of $20 per that scares me

We talking like 41% on 9 attempts per game isn’t elite. That down year is a career year for majority in the league. How was he underwhelming? The shot clock thing isn’t on him, look at the coaching staff on that issue as well as your star players. He came back a better player this year than he was last year, a more consistent effort on D, the passing out of the traps coming off handoffs, etc.

He was underwhelming because a) his 3pt efficiency substantially declined from 2020, and b) so much of our offense was geared towards getting him open looks and 40.8% from 3 is no longer super special in this league; there were 37 players who topped that %. Now granted, Duncan had higher volume than them but that's because our offensive system was hyper-focused on spamming Duncan 3s at the expense of burning a ton of shot clock and possibly foregoing other potential options. The system obviously isn't Duncan's fault but it's the system that got him so many 3s. Ultimately we had the 18th ranked offense so the question becomes whether the system needs some reworking and if that reworking is gonna result in less Duncan 3s and what that means to Duncan's value

But I'm not sure why we're even going down this road because like I already said, I think he can get that efficiency back up closer to the 45% from 2020 and I'm happy to re-sign him at the $15 Ethan is reporting