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clipperlover · Post #1841 » by **clipperlover** » Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:27 pm

og15 wrote:
MartinToVaught wrote:Hate to say it, but Doc probably blew our only chance last season. Durant broke the league again and the Nets probably have the next three rings minimum on lock. The day KD retires will be one of the greatest days in NBA history.

Harden isn't even playing right now though, so I'd say part of this is Bud still kind of supporting the idea that he's a great regular season coach, but pretty average playoff coach. Irving/Durant, elite shooter in Joe Harris, post-prime Blake Griffin and random role players they picked up from all over is what has destroyed the Bucks in two games, not some super team.

Of course, sure, when Harden comes back, they are a beast, but the current commentary should be about Milwaukee's poor showing in game 1 and 2. They need to win game 3 and 4 at home.

Checked that off the list.

Quake Griffin · Post #1842 » by **Quake Griffin** » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:55 am

Happy for CP3.

He deserves this.
They will be a very tough out if we can figure out Utah.

#WildWildWest

mttwlsn16 · Post #1843 » by **mttwlsn16** » Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:20 am

Quake Griffin wrote:Happy for CP3.

He deserves this.
They will be a very tough out if we can figure out Utah.

#WildWildWest

Agreed. Good for him

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Post #1844 » by **og15** » Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:30 am

Suns sweep, wow, lots of rest for them. Clippers can battle them, just have to get past Utah as Quake said.

esqtvd · Post #1845 » by **esqtvd** » Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:44 am

don't think EVERYBODY didn't learn something from last year's humiliation

NOBODY was left unscarred--we lost because Kawhi and KL choked in Game 7 but THEY choked because everybody else cacked

George Hill: Rivers 'ripped' 76ers' bench at halftime of Game 2

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/video/george-hill-rivers-ripped-76ers-bench-halftime-game-2-vs-hawks

Kawhi and PG have been coming through and Reggie has stepped up BIGTIME thank God

no more DADDY DAY SCHOOL
Doc was way too soft on them last year and it cost him his job
I hope Ty is kicking everybody else's ass too

Post #1846 » by **og15** » Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:57 am

mttwlsn16 wrote:
Quake Griffin wrote:Happy for CP3.

He deserves this.
They will be a very tough out if we can figure out Utah.

#WildWildWest
Agreed. Good for him

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So many guys focusing so much on their three ball and don't put as much time into creating separation and mastering the in-between game. Chris Paul says, "these are layups".

Quake Griffin · Post #1847 » by **Quake Griffin** » Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:10 pm

Look what he can do when he doesn't have 6'4" (but 6'1" arms) JJ Redick as his starting 2 and Matt Barnes/ Luke Mbah Moute as his starting 3. Look what he can do when he can ask Miles Bridges and Jae Crowder to play wing defense as opposed to guarding Kevin Durant in an epic Game 4 comeback.

I miss that guy dearly and I wish he was still here. I wish he was going into the hall as a Clipper. I'm not sure he's going to do that. I'm not sure he would attend a ceremony where we retired his jersey.

Post #1848 » by **og15** » Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:46 pm

Quake Griffin wrote:Look what he can do when he doesn't have 6'4" (but 6'1" arms) JJ Redick as his starting 2 and Matt Barnes/ Luke Mbah Moute as his starting 3. Look what he can do when he can ask Miles Bridges and Jae Crowder to play wing defense as opposed to guarding Kevin Durant in an epic Game 4 comeback.

I miss that guy dearly and I wish he was still here. I wish he was going into the hall as a Clipper. I'm not sure he's going to do that. I'm not sure he would attend a ceremony where we retired his jersey.

Suns are a very talented and deep team, the kind of team the Lob City rosters needed.

I think a lot of people focused on what those team didn't do vs actually being impressed with what they DID do with the many limitations the rosters had. Of course injuries were part of the story too, but I mentioned it every season even if people didn't want to believe it. The team had a defense, depth and size problem, and it meant that when the playoffs rolled around, things just became tougher for them.

I actually liked Mbah too. If they had a guy like 16-17 Mbah who was knocking down corner three's in addition to his good straight line drive ability in 2014 and 2015, it actually would have helped a lot defensively and with depth as he could guard 1-4, 5 in spurts and he played as a 3/4.

I liked Redick, but we all know his limitations on both ends. He tried on defense, but he was still tiny and couldn't be used as a real defensive option. CP3 had to guard all his counterpart PG's most of the game while they rested on Barnes on defense as their SG or SF guarded Paul.

Offensively Redick spaced, shot, efficient, but he could not be used as a secondary playmaker. People talk about how it's too hard for Lillard with him and CJ in the backcourt, but Redick has the same size and defensive limitations as CJ without the offensive ability.

Even DA vs DJ. Ayton has improved so much on defense, and offensively is much better than DJ.

Definitely one of the benefits of longevity and still being good when older is that you can end up getting to a better scenario. Of course a player would prefer that in their prime, but life isn't particularly fair.

clipperlover · Post #1849 » by **clipperlover** » Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:53 pm

Quake Griffin wrote:Look what he can do when he doesn't have 6'4" (but 6'1" arms) JJ Redick as his starting 2 and Matt Barnes/ Luke Mbah Moute as his starting 3. Look what he can do when he can ask Miles Bridges and Jae Crowder to play wing defense as opposed to guarding Kevin Durant in an epic Game 4 comeback.

I miss that guy dearly and I wish he was still here. I wish he was going into the hall as a Clipper. I'm not sure he's going to do that. I'm not sure he would attend a ceremony where we retired his jersey.

CP3 reaps what he sows. He wanted Doc as the coach before he would sign long term. He also wanted Bledsoe moved. He got his wishes and the team was never competent enough to fill the glaring hole at backup big because of the horrible Bledsoe trade. CP3 wanted to leave and team up with Harden. He received his request and he still turned that into nothing.

It definitely helps you look good when your first round opponent loses their most dominant defensive player halfway through the series and the 2nd round opponent's starting playoff backcourt is a sub 6' rookie and a guy picked up on a 10 day contract.

I think Monty has done a fine job. He should have never been fired in NO after leading that team to the playoffs. Would have loved for the Clips to have picked Monty up. That said, both the Jazz and Clippers could sweep the WCF.

NippySudz · Post #1850 » by **NippySudz** » Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:31 am

another Doc collapse inbound? We'll see. Stay tuned.

Quake Griffin · Post #1851 » by **Quake Griffin** » Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:35 pm

NippySudz wrote:another Doc collapse inbound? We'll see. Stay tuned.

Same ole BS in the post game as well.

I think they advance. I'm not pulling for or against the 76ers. Dimming his light doesn't make Ty Lue great or put wins in the win column for the Clippers but I do happen to just find him annoying.

NippySudz · Post #1852 » by **NippySudz** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:03 am

Quake Griffin wrote:
NippySudz wrote:another Doc collapse inbound? We'll see. Stay tuned.

Same ole BS in the post game as well.

I think they advance. I'm not pulling for or against the 76ers. Dimming his light doesn't make Ty Lue great or put wins in the win column for the Clippers but I do happen to just find him annoying.

I am petty so If they fail, I'll take pleasure in it. But I don't have anything personally against sixers or sixer fans. It's just doc like you said, I find annoying. They're playing short handed, the hawks, they were up 19 or so and the collapse happen.

Post #1853 » by **og15** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:46 am

What is Milwaukee's offense doing in this 4th quarter? Wow!

nickhx2 · Post #1854 » by **nickhx2** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:48 am

it's so hard to watch lol

Post #1855 » by **og15** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:49 am

clipperlover wrote:
Quake Griffin wrote:Look what he can do when he doesn't have 6'4" (but 6'1" arms) JJ Redick as his starting 2 and Matt Barnes/ Luke Mbah Moute as his starting 3. Look what he can do when he can ask Miles Bridges and Jae Crowder to play wing defense as opposed to guarding Kevin Durant in an epic Game 4 comeback.

I miss that guy dearly and I wish he was still here. I wish he was going into the hall as a Clipper. I'm not sure he's going to do that. I'm not sure he would attend a ceremony where we retired his jersey.

CP3 reaps what he sows. He wanted Doc as the coach before he would sign long term. He also wanted Bledsoe moved. He got his wishes and the team was never competent enough to fill the glaring hole at backup big because of the horrible Bledsoe trade. CP3 wanted to leave and team up with Harden. He received his request and he still turned that into nothing.

It definitely helps you look good when your first round opponent loses their most dominant defensive player halfway through the series and the 2nd round opponent's starting playoff backcourt is a sub 6' rookie and a guy picked up on a 10 day contract.

I think Monty has done a fine job. He should have never been fired in NO after leading that team to the playoffs. Would have loved for the Clips to have picked Monty up. That said, both the Jazz and Clippers could sweep the WCF.

Not sure what would suggest this. Unless the Suns have injuries, they are a balanced and deep team, not likely to get swept. The type of team that can probably take two games against any opponent. I don't mind the matchup for the Clippers, but who knows in the playoffs.

Quake Griffin · Post #1856 » by **Quake Griffin** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:44 am

og15 wrote:What is Milwaukee's offense doing in this 4th quarter? Wow!

Giannis is not a war time consigliere.

I will never trust that team to win anything until he improves his game.

Post #1857 » by **og15** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:46 am

Quake Griffin wrote:
og15 wrote:What is Milwaukee's offense doing in this 4th quarter? Wow!

Giannis is not a war time consigliere.

I will never trust that team to win anything until he improves his game.

Bucks should have traded for Paul instead of Holiday, but CP is probably pretty happy where he is

Clemenza · Post #1858 » by **Clemenza** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:59 am

I know we rip our own squad but in reality this playoff sh*t isn't easy for any team or player.

NippySudz · Post #1859 » by **NippySudz** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:23 pm

I never thought I'd say this, but Bud is worse than Doc rivers.

I remember MTV saying he would rather have bud than Doc.

HELL NO. Bud is oblivious to playoff basketball. Plays it like regular season, doesn't exploit mismatches. nothing!

nickhx2 · Post #1860 » by **nickhx2** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:33 pm

might be true, but i just dunno what you're supposed to do when your best player is incapable of carrying the game in the 4th. i mean even if your team has a doc rivers-level of stubbornness/incompetence with regards to static adjustments, you can still just win because you have guys who can't stop your best player.

with giannis, well, he so lacks in moves he really only stops himself.