Mavs Offseason - 21/22 - what do we do from here?

Mr B · Post #241 » by **Mr B** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:06 pm

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Danny Ainge as a replacement?

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Captain_Obvious · Post #242 » by **Captain_Obvious** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:08 pm

Get Massai on the phone and let him bring Lowry with him

arkuo · Post #243 » by **arkuo** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:10 pm

Could have saved the Mavs the trouble by retiring a few years earlier. Could have gotten better picks with someone who knew how to draft and develop.

Now Donnie will be remembered by his very last trade. Which is to get JJ Reddick more likes on Youtube.

Mr B · Post #244 » by **Mr B** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:11 pm

Captain_Obvious wrote:Get Massai on the phone and let him bring Lowry with him

Would also be a great move.

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arkuo · Post #245 » by **arkuo** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:12 pm

Captain_Obvious wrote:Get Massai on the phone and let him bring Lowry with him

Cuban needs to offer him a blank check right now.

And trade KP for Siakam.

Archx · Post #246 » by **Archx** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:17 pm

Donnie saying what he said after the season was a very dumb move. But i'm happy Mark recognized it's simply time to move on and try something new. Hopefully it works out for the better.

Post #247 » by **HMFFL** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:37 pm

With Donnie gone, I hope Michael Finley gets promoted, and he revamps the roster, and gains future assists. How? No idea but we need something to look forward too.

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agentofatlas · Post #248 » by **agentofatlas** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:03 pm

Donnie probably still gonna be there. The guy owns the Gleague team. Too bad Morey is off the market.

Mr B · Post #249 » by **Mr B** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:08 pm

Read on Twitter

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JJP · Post #250 » by **JJP** » Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:42 am

I would think the above tweet has some merit.

Someone comes into a well-established organization with a long-time owner, a respected coach, a playoff team, and the best player in the NBA. It's not going to be just any job.

Post #251 » by **HMFFL** » Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:16 am

JJP wrote:I would think the above tweet has some merit.

Someone comes into a well-established organization with a long-time owner, a respected coach, a playoff team, and the best player in the NBA. It's not going to be just any job.

I concur.
I won't get my hopes up but I will be very pleased If it happens.

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Mr B · Post #252 » by **Mr B** » Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:53 am

JJP wrote:I would think the above tweet has some merit.

Someone comes into a well-established organization with a long-time owner, a respected coach, a playoff team, and the best player in the NBA. It's not going to be just any job.

Let’s say best case scenario happens and Masai Ujiri is the guy they hire. Is there a realistic scenario that the Mavs could end up with DeRozen, Kyle Lowry, and Jarrett Allen?

Here me out… Mavs would have to renounce the rights to all their free agents (including THJ). Also JRich would have to opt out.

Masai would have to convince DeRozen and Lowry to split the cap space (close to $39M I believe) between them. The Mavs then trade KP/Brunson to Cleveland for a resigned Jarrett Allen and Kevin Love. Taking Love back I think is the only way Cleveland considers it.

The Mavs would then still have the MLE and the smaller exception to fill out the roster. The MLE could be used on Dragic or Markkanen.

Again this is BEST case scenario, but would it be possible for this to happen with Masai Ujiri at the helm?

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XTraderXL · Post #253 » by **XTraderXL** » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:36 am

Seth Curry scored 36 in the second round of the PO. He was traded by the Mavs for an unplayable player in JRich. Great job by everyone involved in the trade. Luka must be so happy right now.

XTraderXL · Post #254 » by **XTraderXL** » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:40 am

Also didnt Carlisle put out a statement that Lloyd Pearce shouldnt have been fired? Just goes to show what kind of people run the Mavs.

Mike lorenzo · Post #255 » by **Mike lorenzo** » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:42 am

XTraderXL wrote:Seth Curry scored 36 in the second round of the PO. He was traded by the Mavs for an unplayable player in JRich. Great job by everyone involved in the trade. Luka must be so happy right now.

He's hitting 3s at 60%. crazy

daoneandonly · Post #256 » by **daoneandonly** » Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:28 am

XTraderXL wrote:Seth Curry scored 36 in the second round of the PO. He was traded by the Mavs for an unplayable player in JRich. Great job by everyone involved in the trade. Luka must be so happy right now.

His team is also down to a fresh out of diapers Hawks team blowing two 18 point leads, even though they have 2 all world defenders, so there is that.

XTraderXL · Post #257 » by **XTraderXL** » Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:03 pm

daoneandonly wrote:
XTraderXL wrote:Seth Curry scored 36 in the second round of the PO. He was traded by the Mavs for an unplayable player in JRich. Great job by everyone involved in the trade. Luka must be so happy right now.

His team is also down to a fresh out of diapers Hawks team blowing two 18 point leads, even though they have 2 all world defenders, so there is that.

The point is he is playing his role perfectly. 76ers being down against the Hawks is not his fault. Do you believe that JRich is more valuable to this Mavs team than Curry would have been? If not then whats your point?

daoneandonly · Post #258 » by **daoneandonly** » Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:12 pm

XTraderXL wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
XTraderXL wrote:Seth Curry scored 36 in the second round of the PO. He was traded by the Mavs for an unplayable player in JRich. Great job by everyone involved in the trade. Luka must be so happy right now.

His team is also down to a fresh out of diapers Hawks team blowing two 18 point leads, even though they have 2 all world defenders, so there is that.

The point is he is playing his role perfectly. 76ers being down against the Hawks is not his fault. Do you believe that JRich is more valuable to this Mavs team than Curry would have been? If not then whats your point?

The point is you win, you lose some. Anybody in Dallas' position would have made that trade. We ended up losing it sucks, but its not like some obvious gaffe. Dallas has done that many times before, the Jason Kidd to PHX tarde, the Jamal mashburn trade, the Jim jackson trade, so on and so forth. heck, giving up 2 picks in the KP trade was far worse than the J Rich for Seth trade.

XTraderXL · Post #259 » by **XTraderXL** » Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:46 pm

daoneandonly wrote:
XTraderXL wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
His team is also down to a fresh out of diapers Hawks team blowing two 18 point leads, even though they have 2 all world defenders, so there is that.

The point is he is playing his role perfectly. 76ers being down against the Hawks is not his fault. Do you believe that JRich is more valuable to this Mavs team than Curry would have been? If not then whats your point?

The point is you win, you lose some. Anybody in Dallas' position would have made that trade. We ended up losing it sucks, but its not like some obvious gaffe. Dallas has done that many times before, the Jason Kidd to PHX tarde, the Jamal mashburn trade, the Jim jackson trade, so on and so forth. heck, giving up 2 picks in the KP trade was far worse than the J Rich for Seth trade.

That was hardly your initial point or else you would have said it. I asked because your argument was basically that Curry is playing well against a young team. I actually agree with your latter explanation but I still think the FO needs to be criticised for every bad move they make. These guys are paid millions to do a job for which they have practically unlimited resources to help them make the right decisions and they still do a bad job.

And another thing. I was all for the KP trade as I believed the fable of Casey Smith being the best athletic trainer in the league so surely he had to be positive that KPs health will hold up. Well, apparently the guy is not the best as KP is perpetually injured and is physically a different man while in his physical prime. So all this talk about how good the Mavs training staff is was completely wrong if they missed so badly on KP. This whole organization is on the level of the Kings right now. The only good thing they have going for them at this moment is Luka who is dragging them into playoffs. They are a lottery team with any other player as a #1, outside of other 5-6 guys in the league who would/will never want to come to Dallas.

daoneandonly · Post #260 » by **daoneandonly** » Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:49 pm

XTraderXL wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
XTraderXL wrote:

The point is he is playing his role perfectly. 76ers being down against the Hawks is not his fault. Do you believe that JRich is more valuable to this Mavs team than Curry would have been? If not then whats your point?

The point is you win, you lose some. Anybody in Dallas' position would have made that trade. We ended up losing it sucks, but its not like some obvious gaffe. Dallas has done that many times before, the Jason Kidd to PHX tarde, the Jamal mashburn trade, the Jim jackson trade, so on and so forth. heck, giving up 2 picks in the KP trade was far worse than the J Rich for Seth trade.

That was hardly your initial point or else you would have said it. I asked because your argument was basically that Curry is playing well against a young team. I actually agree with your latter explanation but I still think the FO needs to be criticised for every bad move they make. These guys are paid millions to do a job for which they have practically unlimited resources to help them make the right decisions and they still do a bad job.

And another thing. I was all for the KP trade as I believed the fable of Casey Smith being the best athletic trainer in the league so surely he had to be positive that KPs health will hold up. Well, apparently the guy is not the best as KP is perpetually injured and is physically a different man while in his physical prime. So all this talk about how good the Mavs training staff is was completely wrong if they missed so badly on KP. This whole organization is on the level of the Kings right now. The only good thing they have going for them at this moment is Luka who is dragging them into playoffs. They are a lottery team with any other player as a #1, outside of other 5-6 guys in the league who would/will never want to come to Dallas.

The point still stands, his defense was part of the reaosn he got traded. He has 2 defensive player of the year candidates as teammates and they're getting slapped around by a team of guys in their first ever postseason. So he's not some superstar we're desperately missing, he's still a liability on D, always has been, always will be.