What to do with Johnny Estrada

Comet · Post #1 » by **Comet** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:48 am

I hate him as much as anybody here. He's a butcher behind the plate, he's slow as hell, he has no work ethic, and he does nothing with runners in scoring position. I say trade him.

trwi7 · Post #2 » by **trwi7** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:54 am

Is this really a good time for this thread after the grand slam tonight? :lol:

Comet · Post #3 » by **Comet** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:55 am

trwi7 wrote:Is this really a good time for this thread after the grand slam tonight?

One night shouldn't alter our decision-making. If we did that, then Chad Moeller would still be here.

MadCityBucky · Post #4 » by **MadCityBucky** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:10 am

Well what other options do the Brewers have at the Catcher position?

Did Ivan Rodriguez and Paul Lo Duce resign with their respective teams?

None of the Brewers minor league catchers are ready to produce as much as Estrada did this season.

Plus the Brewers will get next to nothing for Estrada.

WEFFPIM · Post #5 » by **WEFFPIM** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:16 am

Unless there's a free agent catcher out there this offseason (I don't know off the top of my head except Paul Lo Duca), then Estrada is the best option. Mike Rivera in due time should be starting, but Damian Miller is well past his prime and not capable of starting every game. But for next season unless there's a big free agent catcher I can't think of, then Estrada.

GrandAdmiralDan · Post #6 » by **GrandAdmiralDan** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:11 am

What if we offered Estrada in a trade package along with Ben Sheets? Could that get us a big time upgrade at catcher?

Would it be foolish (for either us or the Dodgers) to trade Sheets+Estrada for Russel Martin?

WEFFPIM · Post #7 » by **WEFFPIM** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:16 am

GrandAdmiralDan wrote:What if we offered Estrada in a trade package along with Ben Sheets? Could that get us a big time upgrade at catcher?

Would it be foolish (for either us or the Dodgers) to trade Sheets+Estrada for Russel Martin?

It'd be hellafoolish for the Dodgers

Kerb Hohl · Post #8 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:36 am

willeatfire4playoffsinmil wrote:Mike Rivera in due time should be starting

FYI - Rivera and Estrada are the same age.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/teams/roster?team=mil

trwi7 · Post #9 » by **trwi7** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:09 am

Brad Ausmus
Paul Bako
Rod Barajas
Michael Barrett
Gary Bennett
Ramon Castro
Robert Fick
Jason Kendall
Jason LaRue
Mike Lieberthal
Paul Lo Duca
Damian Miller
Doug Mirabelli
Chad Moeller
Jose Molina
Josh Paul
Mike Piazza
Jorge Posada
Ivan Rodriguez
Kelly Stinnett
Yorvit Torrealba
Javier Valentin

GrandAdmiralDan wrote:What if we offered Estrada in a trade package along with Ben Sheets? Could that get us a big time upgrade at catcher?

Yes it could but it would also give us a big time downgrade in pitching.

GrandAdmiralDan wrote:Would it be foolish (for either us or the Dodgers) to trade Sheets+Estrada for Russel Martin?

I would say it's foolish for both as the Dodgers need all the offense they can get and the Brewers need all the pitching they can get.

And Martin isn't enough of an upgrade to justify trading Sheets and getting nothing back in return.

Martin's career CERA- 3.81
Estrada's career CERA- 4.17

livestrong4ever · Post #10 » by **livestrong4ever** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:10 am

hello we have vinny rittino people!

Post #11 » by **Jollay** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:44 am

I would love to get a defensive guy with no stick to platoon with him and keep three catchers if necessary.

You can get a 250AB catcher with average to good defensive skills pretty easily. Even average would be a huge upgrade. Its true that its hard to get a fulltime guy with a decent stick who is an ace defensively, though.

We need defense up the middle now. We have our sticks at the corners, and we need Hardy/Weeks to tighten it up.

Estrada would be great as a 50 percent starter/pich hitting bat off the bench.

My Phillies fan friend said he's about 50 percent fatter than he was in his Phily days.

Should Estrada be a Brewer beyond 2007?