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Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#561 » by StojkoVrankovic » Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:36 pm

Drax wrote:Carlisle would be epic, i start drooling imagining Tatum in his offensive schemes. No more more weak ISO ball.

the entire Dallas offense was for 4 players to stand around and watch Luka dribble the ball
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Post#562 » by playa-hater » Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:16 am

If Rick Carlisle wants the job he should get it. He is that good. I am all with hiring someone like C Billups (my first choice all year) with Kara Lawson as my 2nd. And hiring them for all the reasons already discussed. But RC is a former Celtic who many consider a top 3 coach of this generation. He has done more with less and overachieved with a bland azz roster for years.

I am also aware that RC should get Tatum's/Brown's approval first as well. But if winning is the top priority, and getting the most out of a roster (not least-Stevens the 2 or 3 seasons) and getting a team the maximize an offense, then it should be a no brainer.
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Post#563 » by Kalela » Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:49 am

The only reason I don't want Carlisle here is he really really hates giving minutes to rookies and young players. Whoever we draft will probably not play until next season. If you will hire Carlisle, then you need to recruit a lot of veteran players for him in the offseason.
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Post#564 » by MagicBagley18 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:29 am

New Orleans is NOT a more desirable job than the Celtics. They have terrible ownership who care more about football in a football city/state. Unwilling to spend big to field a winner. Zion is absolutely an attractive to piece for any coach but you already hear rumblings from his camp about the uneasiness with the pels org.

Dallas- even with its toxic front office is and will be a draw. Luka is that good and Cuban while crazy is an owner who will spend money and go above for the team. Milwaukee is also a draw if it becomes available because of giannis and the roster & a new coach can make some tweaks.

Bucks, mavs, Celtics are the most coveted jobs and milwaukee isn’t even open yet
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Post#565 » by Bar Fight » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:36 am

Carlisle hasn't won a Playoff series in a decade. Pass
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Post#566 » by MagicBagley18 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:54 am

How many years was Carlisle expected to win a playoff series recently? I don’t think he’s the hire here think it’s milwaukee. Don’t think he should be the hire either but let’s not act like dude can’t coach.
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Post#567 » by Hal14 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 2:05 am

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:Don’t think Carlisle is right for the Celtics at this time but that’s just my opinion.

Carlisle has had big problems relating to players. Not what the Celtics need at this moment


Carlisle is nearly as old as Ainge. They should really avoid guys who played in the Ainge and Carlisle era. The league is much softer and sensitive nowadays. Cassell and Billups are safer choices, although I prefer Billups due to his age.

Not sure i would pick Billups over Cassell simple because he's 7 years younger.

Think about it.

What 2 coaches are absolutely killing it right now? Both doing an amazing job.

Monty Williams and Nate McMillan. Both were role players in the 90s.

Who else was a role player in the 90s? Cassell.

Billups was a star player in the 2000's..
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Post#568 » by Hal14 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 2:08 am

Bar Fight wrote:Carlisle hasn't won a Playoff series in a decade. Pass
Agreed. I give him mad respect for coaching the mavs to the title in 2011.

I think people give too much credit to Dirk for that. Yeah I mean he was awesome that year, but the GM did a good job of putting all of those smart, tough, skilled veterans around him and Carlisle did a great job coaching that team. He did a great job in Detroit. But the NBA is different now. It has evolved. It's much different than it was in 2011.

Cassell, or someone younger than Cassell. Not older..
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Post#569 » by CelticFaninLBC » Fri Jun 18, 2021 2:23 am

Hal14 wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:Don’t think Carlisle is right for the Celtics at this time but that’s just my opinion.

Carlisle has had big problems relating to players. Not what the Celtics need at this moment


Carlisle is nearly as old as Ainge. They should really avoid guys who played in the Ainge and Carlisle era. The league is much softer and sensitive nowadays. Cassell and Billups are safer choices, although I prefer Billups due to his age.

Not sure i would pick Billups over Cassell simple because he's 7 years younger.

Think about it.

What 2 coaches are absolutely killing it right now? Both doing an amazing job.

Monty Williams and Nate McMillan. Both were role players in the 90s.

Who else was a role player in the 90s? Cassell.

Billups was a star player in the 2000's..


Another guy doing well is Ty Lue, who is the same age as Billups.

The game has certainly changed a lot since the 90's. MJ would make this generation of players cry daily.
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Post#570 » by Triple7 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 2:46 am

Pass on Carlisle! We need someone that the players can relate to. I doubt the J’s would agree to that. Cassell would be my first choice. We need young blood with a different approach to the game. Carlisle has been coaching for too long. He needs a break from the game. Even POp wouldn’t be a good fit here.
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Post#571 » by Hal14 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 2:50 am

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:
Carlisle is nearly as old as Ainge. They should really avoid guys who played in the Ainge and Carlisle era. The league is much softer and sensitive nowadays. Cassell and Billups are safer choices, although I prefer Billups due to his age.

Not sure i would pick Billups over Cassell simple because he's 7 years younger.

Think about it.

What 2 coaches are absolutely killing it right now? Both doing an amazing job.

Monty Williams and Nate McMillan. Both were role players in the 90s.

Who else was a role player in the 90s? Cassell.

Billups was a star player in the 2000's..


Another guy doing well is Ty Lue, who is the same age as Billups.

The game has certainly changed a lot since the 90's. MJ would make this generation of players cry daily.

True about Lue doing a nice job as a coach.

But jus because the game has changed a lot since the 90s, the fact is both Monty Williams and Nate Mcmillan (90s role players) are doing excellent coaching jobs right now..

I think either Billups or Cassell could be a good fit..
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Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#572 » by Zeroforwinger » Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:02 am

Hal14 wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:Don’t think Carlisle is right for the Celtics at this time but that’s just my opinion.

Carlisle has had big problems relating to players. Not what the Celtics need at this moment


Carlisle is nearly as old as Ainge. They should really avoid guys who played in the Ainge and Carlisle era. The league is much softer and sensitive nowadays. Cassell and Billups are safer choices, although I prefer Billups due to his age.

Not sure i would pick Billups over Cassell simple because he's 7 years younger.

Think about it.

What 2 coaches are absolutely killing it right now? Both doing an amazing job.

Monty Williams and Nate McMillan. Both were role players in the 90s.

Who else was a role player in the 90s? Cassell.

Billups was a star player in the 2000's..


That’s a really weird criteria for who ends up as good coaches
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Post#573 » by Hal14 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:06 am

Zeroforwinger wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:
Carlisle is nearly as old as Ainge. They should really avoid guys who played in the Ainge and Carlisle era. The league is much softer and sensitive nowadays. Cassell and Billups are safer choices, although I prefer Billups due to his age.

Not sure i would pick Billups over Cassell simple because he's 7 years younger.

Think about it.

What 2 coaches are absolutely killing it right now? Both doing an amazing job.

Monty Williams and Nate McMillan. Both were role players in the 90s.

Who else was a role player in the 90s? Cassell.

Billups was a star player in the 2000's..


That’s a really weird criteria for who ends up as good coaches

I was simply responding to the other guy who's only reasoning for choosing Billups over Cassell was Billups being younger. So I pointed out how the 2 coaches doing arguably the best coaching job in the league right now were closer in age to Cassell than they are to Billups..
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Post#574 » by Ill News » Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:27 am

Bar Fight wrote:Carlisle hasn't won a Playoff series in a decade. Pass

This ignores context. He's had nothing but incredibly mediocre rosters to work with since that Mavs title, in a powerful West no less. His best players were a close-to-retirement Dirk and a young Luka. He still nearly pulled off upsets against superior teams in the playoffs: took the eventual champion Spurs to 7 games in 2014, then almost took out the favored Clippers thia playoffs. He's a great coach that could've definitely won more if he had better rosters.

I don't think Celtics are gonna get him anyway, I have a feeling they're getting a black coach. It might be what the players want, as seen in Jaylen's latest tweet about most of the remaining playoff teams having black coaches. I'd love Carlisle here, though.
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Post#575 » by moonie_mcgee » Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:38 am

Kalela wrote:The only reason I don't want Carlisle here is he really really hates giving minutes to rookies and young players. Whoever we draft will probably not play until next season. If you will hire Carlisle, then you need to recruit a lot of veteran players for him in the offseason.


I'm all for that. Going into this season we should be all in. Tatum and Brown are ready. And I think our young core is as ready as theyll be under the circumstances to compete to earn minutes. And if not they'll provide depth and will be ready when called on. And I'm talking RWill3, Pritch, Nesmith and Romey. I also don't see much overlap bc the vets you suggest have gotta be front court additions.

Edit if we draft well, they'll compete and either play or provide depth.
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Post#576 » by moonie_mcgee » Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:49 am

The Dallas roster wo Luka is not strong. KP, Brunson, Hardaway. I don't think we'll get RC here either for the reasons already stated. But if it was some other year, heck ya. He's a great coach and, I know I'm in the minority here, but as a gritty, over achiever NBA player, he's has much more gravitas and experience than Stevens.
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Post#577 » by threrf23 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:52 am

If Carlisle wants the job, he should at least get an interview and consideration IMO. I mean, he's a good coach, and a smart guy, and he is Belichick-esque (i.e. smart and task driven) more than he is George Karl esque (i.e. smug and manipulative). It's ideal IMO to find a coach that is young and relatable, but it's most important to hire a good coach.
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Post#578 » by moonie_mcgee » Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:00 am

We have plenty of great coaches to choose from. Any young, hungry, former player who has been rising the ranks will do wonders for the Cs this season. Team is ready. We showed glimpse of it. We just need that leader to bring it out. The all too many lazy, sloppy, inconsistent performances this season was an embarrassment. No one should make excuses for a .500 season with the talent we have. Hopefully Stevens will be more proactive than Ainge in getting us ready and making fixes as needed.
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Post#579 » by canman1971 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:35 am

threrf23 wrote:If Carlisle wants the job, he should at least get an interview and consideration IMO. I mean, he's a good coach, and a smart guy, and he is Belichick-esque (i.e. smart and task driven) more than he is George Karl esque (i.e. smug and manipulative). It's ideal IMO to find a coach that is young and relatable, but it's most important to hire a good coach.

That doesn't work in the NBA and BB's style is not even flying like it did in the past.
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Post#580 » by threrf23 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:49 am

canman1971 wrote:That doesn't work in the NBA and BB's style is not even flying like it did in the past.


I agree to at least some extent. But this argument that such a personality would never be an effective coach, was used against Rick Carlisle way back before he coached the Mavs, as it was used against Belichik before the Pats hired him and before they started winning. These guys have always gotten players to perform for them.

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