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Where would you rank last year's Booker on the 2004-05 team?

Best player
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2nd best
20
19%
3rd best
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4th best
25
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5th best
10
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Re: Is Booker already the 3rd best player in the history of the Suns? 

Post#901 » by Ghost of Kleine » Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:07 pm

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Ghost of Kleine wrote:ESPN Stats & Info (@ESPNStatsInfo) Tweeted:
Devin Booker has scored 81 points in the Suns' two closeout wins this postseason.

The only player with more points in his team's first two closeout wins of a single postseason is Michael Jordan (1989 and 1992). h/t @EliasSports https://t.co/JLcJqiBtDe
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That's good, right? I mean MJ was no slouch he had his weaknesses but was a decent player.


Yeah!
Word was that he was pretty decent as a player! And had a pretty successful career in basketball. :lol:
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Post#902 » by cberry78 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:31 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:
SunsRback4Good wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:ESPN Stats & Info (@ESPNStatsInfo) Tweeted:
Devin Booker has scored 81 points in the Suns' two closeout wins this postseason.

The only player with more points in his team's first two closeout wins of a single postseason is Michael Jordan (1989 and 1992). h/t @EliasSports https://t.co/JLcJqiBtDe
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That's good, right? I mean MJ was no slouch he had his weaknesses but was a decent player.


Yeah!
Word was that he was pretty decent as a player! And had a pretty successful career in basketball. :lol:

Yeah, but didn't he eventually give up the NBA dream and pursue baseball? I don't want my star to go THAT route!!!
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Re: Is Booker already the 3rd best player in the history of the Suns? 

Post#903 » by Ghost of Kleine » Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:52 pm

cberry78 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
SunsRback4Good wrote:


That's good, right? I mean MJ was no slouch he had his weaknesses but was a decent player.


Yeah!
Word was that he was pretty decent as a player! And had a pretty successful career in basketball. :lol:

Yeah, but didn't he eventually give up the NBA dream and pursue baseball? I don't want my star to go THAT route!!!


Agreed! :D
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Post#904 » by Barkley6 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:54 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:
SunsRback4Good wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:ESPN Stats & Info (@ESPNStatsInfo) Tweeted:
Devin Booker has scored 81 points in the Suns' two closeout wins this postseason.

The only player with more points in his team's first two closeout wins of a single postseason is Michael Jordan (1989 and 1992). h/t @EliasSports https://t.co/JLcJqiBtDe
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That's good, right? I mean MJ was no slouch he had his weaknesses but was a decent player.


Yeah!
Word was that he was pretty decent as a player! And had a pretty successful career in basketball. :lol:


Micheal Jordan was pretty good, but he wouldn't be able to hang in todays NBA. LeBron would shut him down. He'd be a good player, but not the greatest. :crazy:
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Post#905 » by cberry78 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:35 pm

Barkley6 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
SunsRback4Good wrote:


That's good, right? I mean MJ was no slouch he had his weaknesses but was a decent player.


Yeah!
Word was that he was pretty decent as a player! And had a pretty successful career in basketball. :lol:


Micheal Jordan was pretty good, but he wouldn't be able to hang in todays NBA. LeBron would shut him down. He'd be a good player, but not the greatest. :crazy:

Yeah, MJ would strictly be a role player in today's NBA.
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Post#906 » by Qwigglez » Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:29 am

Barkley6 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
SunsRback4Good wrote:


That's good, right? I mean MJ was no slouch he had his weaknesses but was a decent player.


Yeah!
Word was that he was pretty decent as a player! And had a pretty successful career in basketball. :lol:


Micheal Jordan was pretty good, but he wouldn't be able to hang in todays NBA. LeBron would shut him down. He'd be a good player, but not the greatest. :crazy:


He's an actor first and foremost.

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Post#907 » by SunsRback4Good » Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:38 am

Qwigglez wrote:
Barkley6 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Yeah!
Word was that he was pretty decent as a player! And had a pretty successful career in basketball. :lol:


Micheal Jordan was pretty good, but he wouldn't be able to hang in todays NBA. LeBron would shut him down. He'd be a good player, but not the greatest. :crazy:


He's an actor first and foremost.

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Post#908 » by LAKESHOW » Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:27 am

What if the Phoenix Suns win the Chip this season? Right here right now. The old saying goes, you wanna be the Man, you have to Beat the Man.
And I have no doubt, zero hesitation in saying we should've and would've taken down the field and won a back to back, but for Phoenix.
You guys dethroned the Champs, and have all the pieces to take down the crown. Experienced Guard play. Experienced forward play. And a strong centerpiece.
If Book does that, with cp3, crowder etc of course, but if Book takes down the Championship in a wide open field in 2021. He should then be considered Top 2. Dont know who, but bark or nash gotta be dropped. Because he will have delivered where Nash and Barkley failed.
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Post#909 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:27 am

Barkley6 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
SunsRback4Good wrote:


That's good, right? I mean MJ was no slouch he had his weaknesses but was a decent player.


Yeah!
Word was that he was pretty decent as a player! And had a pretty successful career in basketball. :lol:


Micheal Jordan was pretty good, but he wouldn't be able to hang in todays NBA. LeBron would shut him down. He'd be a good player, but not the greatest. :crazy:

MJ today would be a homeless man's Demar Derozan
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Post#910 » by Ghost of Kleine » Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:30 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
Barkley6 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Yeah!
Word was that he was pretty decent as a player! And had a pretty successful career in basketball. :lol:


Micheal Jordan was pretty good, but he wouldn't be able to hang in todays NBA. LeBron would shut him down. He'd be a good player, but not the greatest. :crazy:

MJ today would be a homeless man's Demar Derozan


What about a clean Richard Dumas perhaps?

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Post#911 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:33 am

LAKESHOW wrote:What if the Phoenix Suns win the Chip this season? Right here right now. The old saying goes, you wanna be the Man, you have to Beat the Man.
And I have no doubt, zero hesitation in saying we should've and would've taken down the field and won a back to back, but for Phoenix.
You guys dethroned the Champs, and have all the pieces to take down the crown. Experienced Guard play. Experienced forward play. And a strong centerpiece.
If Book does that, with cp3, crowder etc of course, but if Book takes down the Championship in a wide open field in 2021. He should then be considered Top 2. Dont know who, but bark or nash gotta be dropped. Because he will have delivered where Nash and Barkley failed.

I think he'll be the greatest Sun player of all time if that was the case.

I'm not sure how Raptors fan view Kawhi but I'd imagine he's easily a top 2 Raptor of all time even though he doesn't have the reps compared to dudes like Bosh or Lowry. I think CP3 would also be in discussion for top 5.

The question I have coming off the back of your hypothetical is how the conversation changes if Booker doesn't win Finals MVP and CP3 does (like Kawhi), does that keep Booker out of the #1 spot or is that irrelevant?
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Post#912 » by LAKESHOW » Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:26 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
LAKESHOW wrote:What if the Phoenix Suns win the Chip this season? Right here right now. The old saying goes, you wanna be the Man, you have to Beat the Man.
And I have no doubt, zero hesitation in saying we should've and would've taken down the field and won a back to back, but for Phoenix.
You guys dethroned the Champs, and have all the pieces to take down the crown. Experienced Guard play. Experienced forward play. And a strong centerpiece.
If Book does that, with cp3, crowder etc of course, but if Book takes down the Championship in a wide open field in 2021. He should then be considered Top 2. Dont know who, but bark or nash gotta be dropped. Because he will have delivered where Nash and Barkley failed.

I think he'll be the greatest Sun player of all time if that was the case.

I'm not sure how Raptors fan view Kawhi but I'd imagine he's easily a top 2 Raptor of all time even though he doesn't have the reps compared to dudes like Bosh or Lowry. I think CP3 would also be in discussion for top 5.

The question I have coming off the back of your hypothetical is how the conversation changes if Booker doesn't win Finals MVP and CP3 does (like Kawhi), does that keep Booker out of the #1 spot or is that irrelevant?

You hit it right on the head, Win the Title, he shoots right to the top or top 2. Like Kawhi, with really no time spent in Canada, Kawhi has accomplished what no one else has done.
Therefore,, If book brings the Championship to Phoenix, I believe that shoots him automatic to 2. I say 2, because of nostalgia and fan bias.
Many in Toronto won't give Kawhi the top spot. Because they'll shoot nostalgic with Vince or a Lowry or somethin.
Similarly In Phoenix, many might give the nod to a nash, Barkley or whoever. But after that, a Championship drops Booker to no lower than 2.
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Post#913 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:54 am

LAKESHOW wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
LAKESHOW wrote:What if the Phoenix Suns win the Chip this season? Right here right now. The old saying goes, you wanna be the Man, you have to Beat the Man.
And I have no doubt, zero hesitation in saying we should've and would've taken down the field and won a back to back, but for Phoenix.
You guys dethroned the Champs, and have all the pieces to take down the crown. Experienced Guard play. Experienced forward play. And a strong centerpiece.
If Book does that, with cp3, crowder etc of course, but if Book takes down the Championship in a wide open field in 2021. He should then be considered Top 2. Dont know who, but bark or nash gotta be dropped. Because he will have delivered where Nash and Barkley failed.

I think he'll be the greatest Sun player of all time if that was the case.

I'm not sure how Raptors fan view Kawhi but I'd imagine he's easily a top 2 Raptor of all time even though he doesn't have the reps compared to dudes like Bosh or Lowry. I think CP3 would also be in discussion for top 5.

The question I have coming off the back of your hypothetical is how the conversation changes if Booker doesn't win Finals MVP and CP3 does (like Kawhi), does that keep Booker out of the #1 spot or is that irrelevant?

You hit it right on the head, Win the Title, he shoots right to the top or top 2. Like Kawhi, with really no time spent in Canada, Kawhi has accomplished what no one else has done.
Therefore,, If book brings the Championship to Phoenix, I believe that shoots him automatic to 2. I say 2, because of nostalgia and fan bias.
Many in Toronto won't give Kawhi the top spot. Because they'll shoot nostalgic with Vince or a Lowry or somethin.
Similarly In Phoenix, many might give the nod to a nash, Barkley or whoever. But after that, a Championship drops Booker to no lower than 2.

Now that I think about it, I don't think Finals MVP would change the conversation. Yes there would be some talk about how CP3, the Finals MVP was the key blah blah but ultimately CP3 won't have the games played for the Suns to take that shine off of Book. Booker already has 420 games played as a Suns, he was drafted and developed by the Suns and he'll have that "homegrown" narrative that would be far bigger than the CP3/Finals MVP argument.

Booker would be Tier 1 - drafted by the Suns, brought a championship to the desert
Nash/Barkley woul be Tier 2 - both guys who became a star with another team first and were MVP level players but didn't win a chip
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Post#914 » by LAKESHOW » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:29 am

This is great debate. Weve had that for years. Weve got guys who in no way fashion or form will move off of Jerry West as the Greatest Laker of all time. They even throw in his GM history to solidify their beliefs. And I don't argue with those guys.
That's why, I always leave space and room for those who shoot to the historical past and nostalgia.
While also give room for the present.
I see this year as an Open Championship opportunity for teams, especially the Suns. I hope you guys take advantage of it
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Post#915 » by bwgood77 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:45 am

LAKESHOW wrote:This is great debate. Weve had that for years. Weve got guys who in no way fashion or form will move off of Jerry West as the Greatest Laker of all time. They even throw in his GM history to solidify their beliefs. And I don't argue with those guys.
That's why, I always leave space and room for those who shoot to the historical past and nostalgia.
While also give room for the present.
I see this year as an Open Championship opportunity for teams, especially the Suns. I hope you guys take advantage of it


I read a lot of these forums for years and not once have I ever read someone say Jerry West is the greatest Laker of all time. I know there are different criteria but it seems like Kareem is probably the best player ever to have suited up for them but Magic is widely known as the best Laker ever. The you kind of have the same dilemma with Shaq and Kobe. Shaq was the better more dominating player overall but didn't play his whole career there so many have Kobe as their favorite. It's a generation thing. Though I guess West goes back further and didn't he play some with Wilt? The Lakers is a very hard ranking too which is why it really depends on criteria.

One great thing about Book is that he has only played for the Suns so if he plays his whole career here that is a big thing in my book. Kind of like Kevin Johnson, though I know he got traded to the Suns in his rookie year but never wanted to go anywhere else so basically was a career Sun who led them to the WCF in his 2nd and 3rd years, beating MVP Magic and the defending champion Lakers in 5 to get to the 2nd WCF and meet Portland after losing to them in the WCF the year before. He had a similar impact CP3 has had but in his 2nd year, and the odd thing is we had to trade our best player (Larry Nance) to get him.
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Post#916 » by LAKESHOW » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:59 am

bwgood77 wrote:
LAKESHOW wrote:This is great debate. Weve had that for years. Weve got guys who in no way fashion or form will move off of Jerry West as the Greatest Laker of all time. They even throw in his GM history to solidify their beliefs. And I don't argue with those guys.
That's why, I always leave space and room for those who shoot to the historical past and nostalgia.
While also give room for the present.
I see this year as an Open Championship opportunity for teams, especially the Suns. I hope you guys take advantage of it


I read a lot of these forums for years and not once have I ever read someone say Jerry West is the greatest Laker of all time. .

My bad, maybe I wasn't clear, I'm not only a member at this Site, I'm an OG member at another Giant Laker forum called LakersGround. That site is the Jungle where you will find Purple and Gold fans you regret ever meeting. On that site they argue just to be argumentative. Anyhow, this debate here is healthy.
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Post#917 » by spanishninja » Fri Jun 18, 2021 2:00 am

bwgood77 wrote:
LAKESHOW wrote:This is great debate. Weve had that for years. Weve got guys who in no way fashion or form will move off of Jerry West as the Greatest Laker of all time. They even throw in his GM history to solidify their beliefs. And I don't argue with those guys.
That's why, I always leave space and room for those who shoot to the historical past and nostalgia.
While also give room for the present.
I see this year as an Open Championship opportunity for teams, especially the Suns. I hope you guys take advantage of it


I read a lot of these forums for years and not once have I ever read someone say Jerry West is the greatest Laker of all time. I know there are different criteria but it seems like Kareem is probably the best player ever to have suited up for them but Magic is widely known as the best Laker ever. The you kind of have the same dilemma with Shaq and Kobe. Shaq was the better more dominating player overall but didn't play his whole career there so many have Kobe as their favorite. It's a generation thing. Though I guess West goes back further and didn't he play some with Wilt? The Lakers is a very hard ranking too which is why it really depends on criteria.

One great thing about Book is that he has only played for the Suns so if he plays his whole career here that is a big thing in my book. Kind of like Kevin Johnson, though I know he got traded to the Suns in his rookie year but never wanted to go anywhere else so basically was a career Sun who led them to the WCF in his 2nd and 3rd years, beating MVP Magic and the defending champion Lakers in 5 to get to the 2nd WCF and meet Portland after losing to them in the WCF the year before. He had a similar impact CP3 has had but in his 2nd year, and the odd thing is we had to trade our best player (Larry Nance) to get him.
I think Book wants this too, especially since that's the path Kobe took.

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Post#918 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:08 pm

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~ As this 2014 #Mcdonalds AA Game interview w/ @DraftExpress shows @DevinBook has known who he was as a player long before he was starring for @Suns in the #NBAPlayoffs >> https://t.co/TPnk2mkfzG https://t.co/7xKRJz6bYi
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Post#919 » by Ghost of Kleine » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:30 am

StatMuse (@statmuse) Tweeted:
40-point triple-double in the playoffs before turning 25:

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Post#920 » by Ghost of Kleine » Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:45 pm

Phoenix Suns (@Suns) Tweeted:
Yesterday, @DevinBook became the 4th player to lead both teams outright in points, rebounds and assists in a Conference/Division Finals game.

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