Woj: Kemba to OKC, Horford to BOS

[jayjaysee]

Buyout kemba who then goes to lakers? Would chuck still think the system is okay then?

Surely they cant extract even more value from kemba... Not many worse contracts left and i dont think he will waste a year like horford did

Does OKC even need to tank next year? Kemba can start next to SGA, they can give Collins a max or give Holmes 20 million, they’re gonna have at least one top 5 pick, maybe two top 6…

I imagine Presti plans to flip Kemba, but him and SGA will look good together to start the first 10-20 games of the season. And they don’t really need to tank with the amount of young talent they have, especially if the lottery is nice to them.

[gswhoops]

Seems like a clear win for OKC and a reluctant win for Boston. Like others I’m impressed that GM Stevens is moving decisively to fix issues rather than just staying the course and clogging up the roster with another mid-first rookie.

[JediMasterRevan]

I love the celtics getting Brown in this deal. Didnt think there was any way OKC would trade him

HIgh energy, defensive, long winged players are not common.

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[gswhoops]

Buyout kemba who then goes to lakers? Would chuck still think the system is okay then?

Surely they cant extract even more value from kemba... Not many worse contracts left and i dont think he will waste a year like horford did

Does OKC even need to tank next year? Kemba can start next to SGA, they can give Collins a max or give Holmes 20 million, they’re gonna have at least one top 5 pick, maybe two top 6…

I imagine Presti plans to flip Kemba, but him and SGA will look good together to start the first 10-20 games of the season. And they don’t really need to tank with the amount of young talent they have, especially if the lottery is nice to them.

Agreed, I don’t think OKC buys out Kemba. If he’s healthy they can showcase him and flip him at the deadline or next offseason for shorter contracts (and probably another pick because Presti is a wizard).

[Godaddycurse]

Buyout kemba who then goes to lakers? Would chuck still think the system is okay then?

Surely they cant extract even more value from kemba... Not many worse contracts left and i dont think he will waste a year like horford did

Does OKC even need to tank next year? Kemba can start next to SGA, they can give Collins a max or give Holmes 20 million, they’re gonna have at least one top 5 pick, maybe two top 6…

I imagine Presti plans to flip Kemba, but him and SGA will look good together to start the first 10-20 games of the season. And they don’t really need to tank with the amount of young talent they have, especially if the lottery is nice to them.

Agreed, I don’t think OKC buys out Kemba. If he’s healthy they can showcase him and flip him at the deadline or next offseason for shorter contracts (and probably another pick because Presti is a wizard).

But would kemba be willing participant like horford was? He said he wants to play for a winner. After seeing horford waste a year i dont think he wants to do the same

[Scoot McGroot]

I can’t imagine that OKC buys out Kemba and locks that money on the books. It could behoove him to fully recover away from the media in OKC for a half a season (or a full season) and play with Shai/Dort to minimize his weaknesses and load and then have some say in where he goes the next year. Have to assume they’ve broached the Chris Paul and now Al Horford plan with him. Both ultimately ended up somewhere they’d like to be. And OKC didn’t make anything unnecessarily stressful on them to force them out quicker. Kemba’s still only 31.


But man, was that offseason of losing Kyrie/Horford/Rozier and gaining Kemba a train wreck in hindsight. Ainge took a solid swing, but it just didn’t help like we all thought it might.

[DoItALL9]

Does OKC even need to tank next year? Kemba can start next to SGA, they can give Collins a max or give Holmes 20 million, they’re gonna have at least one top 5 pick, maybe two top 6…

I imagine Presti plans to flip Kemba, but him and SGA will look good together to start the first 10-20 games of the season. And they don’t really need to tank with the amount of young talent they have, especially if the lottery is nice to them.

Agreed, I don’t think OKC buys out Kemba. If he’s healthy they can showcase him and flip him at the deadline or next offseason for shorter contracts (and probably another pick because Presti is a wizard).

But would kemba be willing participant like horford was? He said he wants to play for a winner. After seeing horford waste a year i dont think he wants to do the same

Did CP3 "waste" a year? It could be argued either way.

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[gswhoops]

Does OKC even need to tank next year? Kemba can start next to SGA, they can give Collins a max or give Holmes 20 million, they’re gonna have at least one top 5 pick, maybe two top 6…

I imagine Presti plans to flip Kemba, but him and SGA will look good together to start the first 10-20 games of the season. And they don’t really need to tank with the amount of young talent they have, especially if the lottery is nice to them.

Agreed, I don’t think OKC buys out Kemba. If he’s healthy they can showcase him and flip him at the deadline or next offseason for shorter contracts (and probably another pick because Presti is a wizard).

But would kemba be willing participant like horford was? He said he wants to play for a winner. After seeing horford waste a year i dont think he wants to do the same

I don’t know, but my pitch would be: unless you’re willing to take a huge ($20M+) pay cut, a buyout’s off the table; we’ll try to find a trade to get you to a contender and you can help us make that happen by playing well and having a good attitude.

[Godaddycurse]

Agreed, I don’t think OKC buys out Kemba. If he’s healthy they can showcase him and flip him at the deadline or next offseason for shorter contracts (and probably another pick because Presti is a wizard).

But would kemba be willing participant like horford was? He said he wants to play for a winner. After seeing horford waste a year i dont think he wants to do the same

Did CP3 "waste" a year? It could be argued either way.

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Did you see the tank job that OKC did last year? their roster is super barren. I dont expect them to do anything differently this year since they owe a lotto protected 1st to atlanta. CP3 team was actually competing and had good players on it. this one is helluva different.

[Scoot McGroot]

Agreed, I don’t think OKC buys out Kemba. If he’s healthy they can showcase him and flip him at the deadline or next offseason for shorter contracts (and probably another pick because Presti is a wizard).

But would kemba be willing participant like horford was? He said he wants to play for a winner. After seeing horford waste a year i dont think he wants to do the same

I don’t know, but my pitch would be: unless you’re willing to take a huge ($20M+) pay cut, a buyout’s off the table; we’ll try to find a trade to get you to a contender and you can help us make that happen by playing well and having a good attitude.

Yup. A huge buyout, like declining his player option completely.

[Patsfan1081]

Meh, conflicted on using that first to get off Walker. Prob would have used it on Kai Jones or someone similar to Moses Brown. Boston could actually use Horford so I guess it makes sense.

[Godaddycurse]

But would kemba be willing participant like horford was? He said he wants to play for a winner. After seeing horford waste a year i dont think he wants to do the same

I don’t know, but my pitch would be: unless you’re willing to take a huge ($20M+) pay cut, a buyout’s off the table; we’ll try to find a trade to get you to a contender and you can help us make that happen by playing well and having a good attitude.

Yup. A huge buyout, like declining his player option completely.

I think they would use the griffin deal as a parameter. maybe 15-20M to account for the larger salary of kemba

[mhd]

But would kemba be willing participant like horford was? He said he wants to play for a winner. After seeing horford waste a year i dont think he wants to do the same

I don’t know, but my pitch would be: unless you’re willing to take a huge ($20M+) pay cut, a buyout’s off the table; we’ll try to find a trade to get you to a contender and you can help us make that happen by playing well and having a good attitude.

Yup. A huge buyout, like declining his player option completely.

Kemba is not declining that last year option. It would be foolhardy.

[JediMasterRevan]

Meh, conflicted on using that first to get off Walker. Prob would have used it on Kai Jones or someone similar to Moses Brown. Boston could actually use Horford so I guess it makes sense.

Brown has proven capable of playing, and playing very well, in the NBA already.
Kai is an unknown.

Moses is a great add in this deal for the 16th pick.

[Wizop]

feels like Boston is making the kind of trade Larry Bird used to make for the Pacers where he'd get a player based on what he'd seen years earlier which wasn't what the player was now. but maybe Brad wants him for his leadership.

[Celts17Pride]

feels like Boston is making the kind of trade Larry Bird used to make for the Pacers where he'd get a player based on what he'd seen years earlier which wasn't what the player was now. but maybe Brad wants him for his leadership.

Kemba is horrible. Celtics were never going anywhere with him on the roster. Celtics had to do whatever it took to move Kemba. Celtics get an A+ just for the fact someone took Kemba.

[Scoot McGroot]

I don’t know, but my pitch would be: unless you’re willing to take a huge ($20M+) pay cut, a buyout’s off the table; we’ll try to find a trade to get you to a contender and you can help us make that happen by playing well and having a good attitude.

Yup. A huge buyout, like declining his player option completely.

Kemba is not declining that last year option. It would be foolhardy.

Oh, I agree. I just don’t see OKC buying him out without something major. Otherwise, they’re probably happy to rehab his value for awhile and then deal him. Locking up all that space would really kill their TPE Buy/Sell/Trade business they’ve developed.

[jayjaysee]

Over/under of Presti trades this offseason? I got the line at 7.5?

16, 18, and one of Williams/Bazley to move up is already being shopped right?

Lamb, 13, future 2nd for Bazley and 18? 13 and 16 for 9?

[Texas Chuck]

Buyout kemba who then goes to lakers? Would chuck still think the system is okay then?

If the Thunder and Kemba agree a buyout is in their best interest and Kemba and the Lakers then decide him signing there is in their best interest I remain 100% fine with it. I believe strongly in player agency. I'm not looking to hinder Kemba because other people hate LA and can't handle the optics.

[cl2117]

Hate this, but at least the saga is over. I'm going to tell myself getting Moses Brown back makes this ok, but I don't really believe it.

Will not be surprised if Presti flips Kemba as well. He was trending back to where he was last year.

I'll 100% get behind Horford, but I just don't see how he doesn't fall off the cliff sooner rather than later. His money will be hard to move (maybe not as hard as Kemba's but still hard). Maybe he will be easier to offload as salary ballast, but yeah I'm just not sure.

Fair play to Stevens for clearing the deck though. At least he got a body back to off-set sending out the pick. C's still very much need a big splash, hopefully this helps set the table for that to some extent.