#16/#18/#35 - How high can OKC trade up?

[gswhoops]

8-12 range feels about right

[Ruzious]

I doubt you're getting into top half of lottery with #16/#18/#35. I think between 8-12 objectively speaking is realistic.

I'm thinking between 6 and 10 in this draft.

If someone moved from 6, I think it would take more than those two. Specifically because Mitchell seems like a good prospect with a solid floor. To move from him back to unknown picks/players is high risk. 8 Seems like the right number, but if TOR stays at 7 then I could see them, because of their management, dropping down willingly. Can't see Orlando doing that(8) nor Kings (9) but everyone else could have reasonable motivation if their 1A is gone.

I like Mitchell - I was hyping him when nobody was talking about him as even a late 1st rounder. I just don't think of him as an elite prospect or the type of player that normally goes 6th in a draft.

[blind prophet]

Would you consider this?

Kings land 9 or 10, they add 2022 second that is currently top 55 protected out the Clippers.

You send out the 16, 18, 2022 Clippers first?

[NYG]

Oklahoma City Thunder get:
Eric Bledsoe
Steven Adams
10th Overall Draft Pick

New Orleans Pelicans get:
16th Overall Draft Pick

??

This allows OKC to possibly get even further up with 10, 18, 35 + other picks?

[ejftw]

16 + 36 to GSW for 14

GSW moves down a couple of spots, can still snag Ziaire Williams, who I think would be a great SF for them and at 36 can take BJ Boston, Bagley or Juzang, all of which would fit their system with ball movement and good shooting

14 + 18 + 35 + 55 to Sac for 9 + 39

Sac moves down a few spots in the first, gets an additional late teens pick and also moves up in the second, while also getting to get the rights to someone like Petrusev. Kispert + Brown in the first and Robinson-Earl at 35.

OKC ultimately gives 16, 18, 35, 36, 55 for 9 and 39.

[cjmcallist]

OKC also has #36 also. Could OKC do something like:

#16 + #36 + 2022 LAC FRP for #9ish

#18 + #35 + 2023 DEN FRP for #11ish

End up with 3 top 12ish picks. But, hard to know until the lottery happens.

[Bentley1225]

16 + 36 to GSW for 14

GSW moves down a couple of spots, can still snag Ziaire Williams, who I think would be a great SF for them and at 36 can take BJ Boston, Bagley or Juzang, all of which would fit their system with ball movement and good shooting

14 + 18 + 35 + 55 to Sac for 9 + 39

Sac moves down a few spots in the first, gets an additional late teens pick and also moves up in the second, while also getting to get the rights to someone like Petrusev. Kispert + Brown in the first and Robinson-Earl at 35.

OKC ultimately gives 16, 18, 35, 36, 55 for 9 and 39.

I was thinking along same lines:

To GSW: #18 + #35 + #55 (Trade #14)
To Sacramento: #14 + #16 (Trade #9)
To OKC: #9 (Trade #16, #18, #35, #55)

[azwfan]

16 + 36 to GSW for 14

GSW moves down a couple of spots, can still snag Ziaire Williams, who I think would be a great SF for them and at 36 can take BJ Boston, Bagley or Juzang, all of which would fit their system with ball movement and good shooting

14 + 18 + 35 + 55 to Sac for 9 + 39

Sac moves down a few spots in the first, gets an additional late teens pick and also moves up in the second, while also getting to get the rights to someone like Petrusev. Kispert + Brown in the first and Robinson-Earl at 35.

OKC ultimately gives 16, 18, 35, 36, 55 for 9 and 39.

I was thinking along same lines:

To GSW: #18 + #35 + #55 (Trade #14)
To Sacramento: #14 + #16 (Trade #9)
To OKC: #9 (Trade #16, #18, #35, #55)

GSW trading for more rookies makes zero sense for them.

I could see GSW being interested in trading down for one of those picks and a future pick... or more likely, trading down for a useful player.

[MoneyTalks41890]

16 + 36 to GSW for 14

GSW moves down a couple of spots, can still snag Ziaire Williams, who I think would be a great SF for them and at 36 can take BJ Boston, Bagley or Juzang, all of which would fit their system with ball movement and good shooting

14 + 18 + 35 + 55 to Sac for 9 + 39

Sac moves down a few spots in the first, gets an additional late teens pick and also moves up in the second, while also getting to get the rights to someone like Petrusev. Kispert + Brown in the first and Robinson-Earl at 35.

OKC ultimately gives 16, 18, 35, 36, 55 for 9 and 39.

I was thinking along same lines:

To GSW: #18 + #35 + #55 (Trade #14)
To Sacramento: #14 + #16 (Trade #9)
To OKC: #9 (Trade #16, #18, #35, #55)

GSW trading for more rookies makes zero sense for them.

I could see GSW being interested in trading down for one of those picks and a future pick... or more likely, trading down for a useful player.

I think OKC here could replace 35+55 with Kenrich Williams

[ejftw]

16 + 36 to GSW for 14

GSW moves down a couple of spots, can still snag Ziaire Williams, who I think would be a great SF for them and at 36 can take BJ Boston, Bagley or Juzang, all of which would fit their system with ball movement and good shooting

14 + 18 + 35 + 55 to Sac for 9 + 39

Sac moves down a few spots in the first, gets an additional late teens pick and also moves up in the second, while also getting to get the rights to someone like Petrusev. Kispert + Brown in the first and Robinson-Earl at 35.

OKC ultimately gives 16, 18, 35, 36, 55 for 9 and 39.

I was thinking along same lines:

To GSW: #18 + #35 + #55 (Trade #14)
To Sacramento: #14 + #16 (Trade #9)
To OKC: #9 (Trade #16, #18, #35, #55)

GSW trading for more rookies makes zero sense for them.

I could see GSW being interested in trading down for one of those picks and a future pick... or more likely, trading down for a useful player.

I mean, I understand that but if GSW knows the guy they want at 14, will be available at 16, why not add another asset?

[azwfan]

I was thinking along same lines:

To GSW: #18 + #35 + #55 (Trade #14)
To Sacramento: #14 + #16 (Trade #9)
To OKC: #9 (Trade #16, #18, #35, #55)

GSW trading for more rookies makes zero sense for them.

I could see GSW being interested in trading down for one of those picks and a future pick... or more likely, trading down for a useful player.

I think OKC here could replace 35+55 with Kenrich Williams

I meant a guy with some decent playoff experience that would be useful. For OKC it'd probably need to be a future pick or a 3-way deal.

Maybe 16 and some future 2nds or 18 and one of the protected 1sts.

[azwfan]

I was thinking along same lines:

To GSW: #18 + #35 + #55 (Trade #14)
To Sacramento: #14 + #16 (Trade #9)
To OKC: #9 (Trade #16, #18, #35, #55)

GSW trading for more rookies makes zero sense for them.

I could see GSW being interested in trading down for one of those picks and a future pick... or more likely, trading down for a useful player.

I mean, I understand that but if GSW knows the guy they want at 14, will be available at 16, why not add another asset?

Two things:
1) How would they know that?
2) Assuming they get the Minnesota pick, they're probably gonna be looking to trade at least one of them for some win-now help. So trading down to add some 2nds this year is going to be the least desirable trade out of #14 priority.

Having said above, if they don't get the Minnesota pick, and (more unlikely) trade Wiseman... trading down for more rookies might be slightly more desirable.

[gswhoops]

16 + 36 to GSW for 14

GSW moves down a couple of spots, can still snag Ziaire Williams, who I think would be a great SF for them and at 36 can take BJ Boston, Bagley or Juzang, all of which would fit their system with ball movement and good shooting

14 + 18 + 35 + 55 to Sac for 9 + 39

Sac moves down a few spots in the first, gets an additional late teens pick and also moves up in the second, while also getting to get the rights to someone like Petrusev. Kispert + Brown in the first and Robinson-Earl at 35.

OKC ultimately gives 16, 18, 35, 36, 55 for 9 and 39.

I was thinking along same lines:

To GSW: #18 + #35 + #55 (Trade #14)
To Sacramento: #14 + #16 (Trade #9)
To OKC: #9 (Trade #16, #18, #35, #55)

GSW trading for more rookies makes zero sense for them.

I could see GSW being interested in trading down for one of those picks and a future pick... or more likely, trading down for a useful player.

Yeah, agreed. We don’t need more picks this year.

14 for 16 or 18 + a future first would probably be our ask.

[K_chile22]

According to Kevin Pelton's 2017 chart http://nbasense.com/draft-pick-trade-value/2/kevin-pelton-2 that package o picks has the value of between the 3rd and 4th picks.

He notes teams pay a big premium in actuality, the chart is fun and insightful but not how trade value works

[ThunderBorn]

I would be surprised if Presti ever traded with GS

[cjmcallist]

I would be surprised if Presti ever traded with GS

https://www.nba.com/news/reports-warriors-finalizing-trade-to-acquire-kelly-oubre-jr-from-thunder

[Xman]

Probable top 5: Cade, Mobley, Green, Suggs, Kuminga
Most agree in top 10: JJohnson, KJohnson Barnes
Some people love and some hate (so top 12): Mitchell, Wagner
Anywhere before 16: IJackson, Kispert
Guys all over the board (probably top 22 guys): Sengun, Moody, Giddy, Bouknight, ZiaireW, Kai

Top 8 teams: Hou/OKC, DET, ORL, OKC, CLE, GS/Minny, TOR, ORL/CHI
- - Just not seeing them deal down, at least for that package, when at least eight guys have high potential.

9. SAC - Might move down a spot or two but 16 seems too low. I think they take best available.
10. NO - Does not need low first round guys and extra future firsts already. Pick is probably available but for higher pick or player.
11. CHA - Who knows?
12. SA - Sure. Needs talent so might deal. Or, might target someone.

[Dadouv47]

Kenrich and 35 to get pick #14 sounds quite easy. Williams is a good player and under a chepa contract so don't think Gs would pass on that offer.

Probably gonna need some creative 3 team deals to get in the top 10...

If we get unlucky in the lottery, maybe 7 and 18 for 5 if the team with the pick n°5 is low on Kuminga.

[MoneyTalks41890]

Oklahoma City Thunder get:
Eric Bledsoe
Steven Adams
10th Overall Draft Pick

New Orleans Pelicans get:
16th Overall Draft Pick

??

This allows OKC to possibly get even further up with 10, 18, 35 + other picks?

To take both of those guys I’d give Roby and Kenrich+35,36, but not a pick in the teens.

[Bentley1225]

16 + 36 to GSW for 14

GSW moves down a couple of spots, can still snag Ziaire Williams, who I think would be a great SF for them and at 36 can take BJ Boston, Bagley or Juzang, all of which would fit their system with ball movement and good shooting

14 + 18 + 35 + 55 to Sac for 9 + 39

Sac moves down a few spots in the first, gets an additional late teens pick and also moves up in the second, while also getting to get the rights to someone like Petrusev. Kispert + Brown in the first and Robinson-Earl at 35.

OKC ultimately gives 16, 18, 35, 36, 55 for 9 and 39.

I was thinking along same lines:

To GSW: #18 + #35 + #55 (Trade #14)
To Sacramento: #14 + #16 (Trade #9)
To OKC: #9 (Trade #16, #18, #35, #55)

GSW trading for more rookies makes zero sense for them.

I could see GSW being interested in trading down for one of those picks and a future pick... or more likely, trading down for a useful player.

Well GSW doesn’t have to keep #35. They could sell it to help pay for tax bill and stash #55.