Celtics trade Kemba Walker for Al Horford

[ParticleMan]

Horford can’t play the 4 anymore, not in today’s game. Either Rob or TT is gone. My money is on Rob. He has upside and value. Packaged with Romeo or Nesmith and Other useful parts could potentially fetch something decent.

[JHTruth]

TT is a definite goner, but would there be takers? Even then there would still be quite a logjam at the 5 (as it seems like for the Celtics each year). Will we see Big Al play some 4? I'd definitely want to have Brown and Timelord soak all the minutes at 5 if possible.

Honestly the trade wasn't ideal but maybe they think Al can play admirably this year until moving into a coaching FO role while TimeLord takes over the job fulltime

[JHTruth]

Horford can’t play the 4 anymore, not in today’s game. Either Rob or TT is gone. My money is on Rob. He has upside and value. Packaged with Romeo or Nesmith and Other useful parts could potentially fetch something decent.

That would make the trade an unmitigated disaster. Giving up a first rounder AND one of the best young Cs in the league to acquire an ancient Horford and dump Kemba to keep Tristan Thompson who is going to leave the team anyway?

My god what a nightmare scenario

[SuperDeluxe]

TT is a goner.

[JHTruth]

TT is a goner.

Guy was a bad fit from the get go. Let Al be the Senior Statesman before moving into the FO while Rob and Moses move full time into the position.

[Upperclass]

Rob, TT and Romeo should be on the move. Rob wasn't ever healthy in college and hasn't been in the NBA either. Neither has Romeo. You cant keep saying wait til so and so gets back and the team will be xyz.

[JHTruth]

Rob, TT and Romeo should be on the move. Rob wasn't ever healthy in college and hasn't been in the NBA either. Neither has Romeo

Guys. Al will be 36 years old next summer. You counting on undrafted Moses Brown to be your full-time C?

[CelticFaninLBC]

Horford can’t play the 4 anymore, not in today’s game. Either Rob or TT is gone. My money is on Rob. He has upside and value. Packaged with Romeo or Nesmith and Other useful parts could potentially fetch something decent.

Curious what Rob and Nesmith could bring back.

[LoquaciousLarry]

Not a very good deal, in hindsight should have just paid Al and kept Terry if this is where we'd all end up two years later. Oh well, Moses Brown is probably the best player moving forward in the deal and I'd be happy to get him with the 16th pick in the draft.

In regard to Keith Smith saying its a great move and the Celtics didn't need the 16th pick anyways, I think that's a horrific take. Boston has whiffed on a lot of picks and you can never have enough young assets in the NBA. They don't necessarily need to draft "kids" anyways when they have passed and missed on multiple 4 year college starters in the past few years that have been phenomenal rookies from day 1 that would have been key cogs in the Celtics rotation.

[JHTruth]

Horford can’t play the 4 anymore, not in today’s game. Either Rob or TT is gone. My money is on Rob. He has upside and value. Packaged with Romeo or Nesmith and Other useful parts could potentially fetch something decent.

Curious what Rob and Nesmith could bring back.

You'd be an idiot to trade them now. They make under $8mm combined. You wouldn't even get an MLE-level player back for two of your three most talented young players not named Brown or Tatum.

Sheer idiocy

[CelticFaninLBC]

Horford can’t play the 4 anymore, not in today’s game. Either Rob or TT is gone. My money is on Rob. He has upside and value. Packaged with Romeo or Nesmith and Other useful parts could potentially fetch something decent.

Curious what Rob and Nesmith could bring back.

You'd be an idiot to trade them now. They make under $8mm combined. You wouldn't even get an MLE-level player back for two of your three most talented young players not named Brown or Tatum.

Sheer idiocy

So very talented, but not worthy of a top ten pick.

[JHTruth]

Not a very good deal, in hindsight should have just paid Al and kept Terry if this is where we'd all end up two years later. Oh well, Moses Brown is probably the best player moving forward in the deal and I'd be happy to get him with the 16th pick in the draft.

In regard to Keith Smith saying its a great move and the Celtics didn't need the 16th pick anyways, I think that's a horrific take. Boston has whiffed on a lot of picks and you can never have enough young assets in the NBA. They don't necessarily need to draft "kids" anyways when they have passed and missed on multiple 4 year college starters in the past few years that have been phenomenal rookies from day 1 that would have been key cogs in the Celtics rotation.

Draft picks are the most valuable commodity in today's NBA. The worst thing is paying veteran role players big money in today's league.

[JHTruth]

Curious what Rob and Nesmith could bring back.

You'd be an idiot to trade them now. They make under $8mm combined. You wouldn't even get an MLE-level player back for two of your three most talented young players not named Brown or Tatum.

Sheer idiocy

So very talented, but not worthy of a top ten pick.

Name a Rob/Romeo deal the other team would agree to

[SuperDeluxe]

Horford can’t play the 4 anymore, not in today’s game. Either Rob or TT is gone. My money is on Rob. He has upside and value. Packaged with Romeo or Nesmith and Other useful parts could potentially fetch something decent.

Curious what Rob and Nesmith could bring back.

My money is on a championship (with a little help from some friends, of course)

[Celts17Pride]

Not a very good deal, in hindsight should have just paid Al and kept Terry if this is where we'd all end up two years later. Oh well, Moses Brown is probably the best player moving forward in the deal and I'd be happy to get him with the 16th pick in the draft.

In regard to Keith Smith saying its a great move and the Celtics didn't need the 16th pick anyways, I think that's a horrific take. Boston has whiffed on a lot of picks and you can never have enough young assets in the NBA. They don't necessarily need to draft "kids" anyways when they have passed and missed on multiple 4 year college starters in the past few years that have been phenomenal rookies from day 1 that would have been key cogs in the Celtics rotation.

Celtics have 8-9 young players they don’t need another. If you are going to give up a first round pick this is the year to do it.

Can’t develop players when you have so many on your roster. Players need playing time

[LoquaciousLarry]

Not a very good deal, in hindsight should have just paid Al and kept Terry if this is where we'd all end up two years later. Oh well, Moses Brown is probably the best player moving forward in the deal and I'd be happy to get him with the 16th pick in the draft.

In regard to Keith Smith saying its a great move and the Celtics didn't need the 16th pick anyways, I think that's a horrific take. Boston has whiffed on a lot of picks and you can never have enough young assets in the NBA. They don't necessarily need to draft "kids" anyways when they have passed and missed on multiple 4 year college starters in the past few years that have been phenomenal rookies from day 1 that would have been key cogs in the Celtics rotation.

Celtics have 8-9 young players they don’t need another. If you are going to give up a first round pick this is the year to do it.

Can’t develop players when you have so many on your roster. Players need playing time

Most of the picks have been awful and guys like Edwards, Waters, Ojeleye, Langford, Kornet, Grant Williams are perennial losers in my opinion and shouldn't be on NBA rosters. I would have dealt Smart with pick 14 for a top 10er a year ago. Celtics failure has been in their inability to consolidate to get quality players in the draft and failing to draft quality players in the draft. This last year the roster was ripe for someone to take minutes and earn a job. Instead, we saw guys like Jabari Parker signed off the street contributing more than draft picks mid to late round from current and past years.

The roster needs an overhaul, this trade can get better depending on how they mortgage their assets elsewhere.

[jfs1000d]

Curious why Brad didn’t wait. Gotta believe they have other things to talk about. Never seen a trade like this in middle of playoffs.


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[jfs1000d]

Not a very good deal, in hindsight should have just paid Al and kept Terry if this is where we'd all end up two years later. Oh well, Moses Brown is probably the best player moving forward in the deal and I'd be happy to get him with the 16th pick in the draft.

In regard to Keith Smith saying its a great move and the Celtics didn't need the 16th pick anyways, I think that's a horrific take. Boston has whiffed on a lot of picks and you can never have enough young assets in the NBA. They don't necessarily need to draft "kids" anyways when they have passed and missed on multiple 4 year college starters in the past few years that have been phenomenal rookies from day 1 that would have been key cogs in the Celtics rotation.

Celtics have 8-9 young players they don’t need another. If you are going to give up a first round pick this is the year to do it.

Can’t develop players when you have so many on your roster. Players need playing time

Come on. The 16th pick is going to be a project. They got Romeo, Grant, Nesmith and PP. enough rookies. Sick of them.


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[LoquaciousLarry]

Not a very good deal, in hindsight should have just paid Al and kept Terry if this is where we'd all end up two years later. Oh well, Moses Brown is probably the best player moving forward in the deal and I'd be happy to get him with the 16th pick in the draft.

In regard to Keith Smith saying its a great move and the Celtics didn't need the 16th pick anyways, I think that's a horrific take. Boston has whiffed on a lot of picks and you can never have enough young assets in the NBA. They don't necessarily need to draft "kids" anyways when they have passed and missed on multiple 4 year college starters in the past few years that have been phenomenal rookies from day 1 that would have been key cogs in the Celtics rotation.

Celtics have 8-9 young players they don’t need another. If you are going to give up a first round pick this is the year to do it.

Can’t develop players when you have so many on your roster. Players need playing time

Come on. The 16th pick is going to be a project. They got Romeo, Grant, Nesmith and PP. enough rookies. Sick of them.


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Saadiq Bey and Isaiah Stewart went 19 and 16 last year and both made first team all rookie. If you draft well, you get players like Big Baby, Leon Powe, Tony Allen, that can contribute to championships as mid to late first or second round picks. I agree Grant, Romeo and for much of the season Nesmith looked like trash. Boston's drafting has been terrible so if thats the logic, yeah we're screwed. We'd all be happy seeing Bey instead of Ojeleye and Grant. Brandon Clarke should have been the pick 2 years ago as nearly every poster on this board preferred him over Grant Williams but Ainge struck out. A lot of posters also liked Thybulle who would have added good minutes as well.

These picks have great value and you can find very good players on rookie contracts that are crucial to supplementing superstars. The C's drafts have been bad but you can't abandon that ship. Covid has hurt them as they identified good cheap European talent like Theis, but hopefully they can get back to that again.

[LloydFree]

Good trade for Boston, IMO.