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Neeva wrote:Wolves cant have dlo and simmons both with those absurd contracts lol I was assuming sending a top 3 pick means dlo going out as well lol
Neeva wrote:Norseman79 wrote:Simmons damn near averages a triple double, with great defense. I get it, he can't shoot. He doesn't need to to impact winning. All we have heard is that we need a good defensive and rebounding 4 to pair with Kat. Simmons is an exceptional athlete, and at 6'10+, 240lbs+, rebounds, passes, guards 1-5 and can facilitate as well as go coast to coast....all at 24 years old. GTFOOH with the "he isn't what we need" or "I'd rather keep a top 3 pick." If you are a Kat and DLo fan, Simmons is the guy you want to get them to the playoffs.
I can just imagine all these people whining if Portland ends up with Simmons to pair with Lillard and company.. or in Dallas with Luca... Or any of several other West Coast teams that would immediately become significantly better with him.
As philly fans are saying he is good if you look at the boxscore and ignore the freethrow stats. He also plays well up till the all star break then he coasts along and sinks in the playoffs, every damn year.
Neeva wrote:Wolves cant have dlo and simmons both with those absurd contracts lol I was assuming sending a top 3 pick means dlo going out as well lol
SO_MONEY wrote:Klomp wrote:packforfreedom wrote:Simmons is a perimeter player who can't shoot in a shooters league.
Maybe that's part of the problem. Why does Simmons have to be considered only a perimeter player? I think people are thinking too limited with him. Look how Boris Diaw's career grew when he moved from PG to PF. Simmons is starting at a higher level than Diaw ever was, but I think he could improve in a similar way.
Goodie, he "could" improve...no thanks. Dude is paid like a superstar and he isn't.
Domejandro wrote:From a team fit and analytics standpoint, trading a top three pick for Simmons is a no-brainer kind of move. Assuming the trade I brought up before, here is the roster.
Ricky Rubio, Juancho Hernangómez, Jarrett Culver, and top three pick.
D’Angelo Russell / Jordan McLaughlin
Malik Beasley / Jaylen Nowell
Anthony Edwards / Josh Okogie / Jake Layman
Ben Simmons / Jaden McDaniels
Karl-Anthony Towns / Naz Reid / Jarred Vanderbilt (RFA)
Keep in mind that Malik Beasley and Anthony Edwards are interchangeable with Jaylen Nowell, not going to list thirty meaningless line-ups. Similarly, where there is not overlap, Naz Reid can sub for Karl-Anthony Towns, and Jordan McLaughlin can sub for D'Angelo Russell.Spoiler:
Ben Simmons can play 1-4 easily and has the strength to play small bursts of small-ball five. He defends every position at an All-NBA level (1-4 top three level), is a top-tier finisher around the basket, has an elite handle, quality screener, and is a phenomenal passer. He is fully capable of being a high-impact player with low-usage, which is shown in the data.
Again, claiming that a top three pick and expirings is not worth this roster....
D’Angelo Russell / Jordan McLaughlin
Malik Beasley / Jaylen Nowell
Anthony Edwards / Josh Okogie / Jake Layman
Ben Simmons / Jaden McDaniels
Karl-Anthony Towns / Naz Reid / Jarred Vanderbilt (RFA)
...feels like losing the plot completely.
Domejandro wrote:SO_MONEY wrote:Klomp wrote:Maybe that's part of the problem. Why does Simmons have to be considered only a perimeter player? I think people are thinking too limited with him. Look how Boris Diaw's career grew when he moved from PG to PF. Simmons is starting at a higher level than Diaw ever was, but I think he could improve in a similar way.
Goodie, he "could" improve...no thanks. Dude is paid like a superstar and he isn't.
Ben Simmons is making a rookie-scale max, which projects to be the thirtieth highest deal in the NBA, next season. That is an expected rate for an All-Star, All-NBA Defensive First Team player.
SO_MONEY wrote:Domejandro wrote:SO_MONEY wrote:
Goodie, he "could" improve...no thanks. Dude is paid like a superstar and he isn't.
Ben Simmons is making a rookie-scale max, which projects to be the thirtieth highest deal in the NBA, next season. That is an expected rate for an All-Star, All-NBA Defensive First Team player.
He shouldn't be an all-star.
Domejandro wrote:SO_MONEY wrote:Domejandro wrote:Ben Simmons is making a rookie-scale max, which projects to be the thirtieth highest deal in the NBA, next season. That is an expected rate for an All-Star, All-NBA Defensive First Team player.
He shouldn't be an all-star.
Yes, a three time All-Star who has been All-NBA First Defensive Team twice and made the All-NBA Third Team last season is not an All-Star caliber player. Brilliant.
Domejandro wrote:SO_MONEY wrote:Domejandro wrote:Ben Simmons is making a rookie-scale max, which projects to be the thirtieth highest deal in the NBA, next season. That is an expected rate for an All-Star, All-NBA Defensive First Team player.
He shouldn't be an all-star.
Yes, a three time All-Star who has been All-NBA First Defensive Team twice and made the All-NBA Third Team last season is not an All-Star caliber player. Brilliant.
Neeva wrote:Wolves cant have dlo and simmons both with those absurd contracts lol I was assuming sending a top 3 pick means dlo going out as well lol
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
Neeva wrote:Domejandro wrote:SO_MONEY wrote:
He shouldn't be an all-star.
Yes, a three time All-Star who has been All-NBA First Defensive Team twice and made the All-NBA Third Team last season is not an All-Star caliber player. Brilliant.
He won’t be one in the west get real.
Norseman79 wrote:Neeva wrote:Domejandro wrote:Yes, a three time All-Star who has been All-NBA First Defensive Team twice and made the All-NBA Third Team last season is not an All-Star caliber player. Brilliant.
He won’t be one in the west get real.
Yes he will, especially if he is on the Wolves. He will average a trip dub on this team and we would make the playoffs.
Klomp wrote:Neeva wrote:Wolves cant have dlo and simmons both with those absurd contracts lol I was assuming sending a top 3 pick means dlo going out as well lol
Sure they can...
SO_MONEY wrote:Norseman79 wrote:Neeva wrote:
He won’t be one in the west get real.
Yes he will, especially if he is on the Wolves. He will average a trip dub on this team and we would make the playoffs.
Norseman79 wrote:SO_MONEY wrote:Norseman79 wrote:
Yes he will, especially if he is on the Wolves. He will average a trip dub on this team and we would make the playoffs.
Which of his numbers do you see dropping?
SO_MONEY wrote:Norseman79 wrote:SO_MONEY wrote:
Which of his numbers do you see dropping?
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