Trade Thread 2021-22: To Trade Or Trade Not

[Mr Loggins]

Brown is 7'2. Stevens off to a good start.

Can he play PF? Him and Tacko = new twin towers

[greenroom31]

Brown is 7'2. Stevens off to a good start.

he's maybe 7' with sneakers on

He literally measured over 7’1” at the combine without shoes. He was over 7’2” with shoes.

I get great amusement from the crowd that argues about the height of players when it is documented at the combine. I guess people believe the data is made up?

[moonie_mcgee]

he's maybe 7' with sneakers on

He literally measured over 7’1” at the combine without shoes. He was over 7’2” with shoes.

I get great amusement from the crowd that argues about the height of players when it is documented at the combine. I guess people believe the data is made up?

This Moses Brown pickup is bigger than posters are giving it. A legit 7'1 shot blocker, rim runner, rebounder is now in green and emerging as an impact player. Wait until you him next to RWill3. Moses will be our starting center this year.

[Triple7]

he's maybe 7' with sneakers on

He literally measured over 7’1” at the combine without shoes. He was over 7’2” with shoes.

I get great amusement from the crowd that argues about the height of players when it is documented at the combine. I guess people believe the data is made up?

I guess BostonCouchGm just hates the name Brown

[cloverleaf]

Brown is 7'2. Stevens off to a good start.

Can he play PF? Him and Tacko = new twin towers

When I saw a report that the C's were expected not to have Tacko and Waters back as their 2-ways, I presumed the Tacko era was over. But Murphy had a line in his Herald story on the trade about more time for Tacko next year.

I also just noticed that Murphy gave Tacko this positive end-of-year grade:

TACKO FALL: B — Florida’s favorite Celtic might as well have been a Red Claw, for the amount he played this season. But the 7-foot-5 big man, with another year or two of development, has shown he has a future as more than the big guy at the end of the bench. He displayed great hands around the rim, better-than-expected range defending against the pick-and-roll because of his eight-foot reach, and already alters multiple shots when he gets in. He’ll be a restricted free agent this summer.

[Curmudgeon]

Well Fred Brown was "downtown Freddie Brown"
Roger Brown was the "Rajah" or "The man of 1,000 moves"

But now we need nicknames for both Jalen Brown ("JB" isn't exactly creative) and Moses Brown. I'd suggest "Mount Sinai" for Moses Brown, but that isn't very creative either.

[cloverleaf]

Well Fred Brown was "downtown Freddie Brown"
Roger Brown was the "Rajah" or "The man of 1,000 moves"

But now we need nicknames for both Jalen Brown ("JB" isn't exactly creative) and Moses Brown. I'd suggest "Mount Sinai" for Moses Brown, but that isn't very creative either.

I'm waiting for the C's to trade for Barnes so we can have a Brown Brothers Harrison lineup.

[Triple7]

He literally measured over 7’1” at the combine without shoes. He was over 7’2” with shoes.

I get great amusement from the crowd that argues about the height of players when it is documented at the combine. I guess people believe the data is made up?

This Moses Brown pickup is bigger than posters are giving it. A legit 7'1 shot blocker, rim runner, rebounder is now in green and emerging as an impact player. Wait until you him next to RWill3. Moses will be our starting center this year.

Finally we got bigger. I’m sick of our bigs 6’8 and below and getting bullied down low.

[RickyDizzle]

With folks talking about Timelords availability with Moses Brown in the fold... let's remember the Celtics could cut Horford after 1 season to save a ton of money or even trade him at the deadline, counting as his full salary and then providing cap relief for the team that receives him.

Great matching salary in a trade with young players and picks for a star on a rebuilding team.

Think we should assume Al is here for a year. Plenty of room for two bouncy high upside centers if Horford is here one year playing 25 mpg and factoring in injury risks of him and Timelord.

Now Thompson, on the other hand, on an expiring deal and losing his minutes to Horf and Brown needs to be cleared. Likely to a playoff team will excess guard depth that needs a gritty big.

Then you roll with Horford/Timelord /Brown for one year and maybe sign Kornet at the minimum as a stretchy 15th man and play him a few minutes if AL is hurt or needs rest.

[RickyDizzle]

Now Thompson, on the other hand, on an expiring deal and losing his minutes to Horf and Brown needs to be cleared. Likely to a playoff team will excess guard depth that needs a gritty big.

Thinking more about that, here's some players I'd inquire about for Thompson, not all guards, but balance the roster a bit:

George Hill
Rondo
Kuzma (have to add something)
Derrick Jones Jr
Josh Richardson
Dario Saric
S&T Caruso
S&T Gary Trent Jr (have to add something)

Josh Richardson I loved in Philly but hasn't work out for Dallas. Maybe a championship veteran like Thompson is a nice stabilizing force? If we got him, I'd probably try to S&T Fournier for a point. Caruso and George Hill strike me as great targets and pretty realistic.

[Scarletfire81]

Now Thompson, on the other hand, on an expiring deal and losing his minutes to Horf and Brown needs to be cleared. Likely to a playoff team will excess guard depth that needs a gritty big.

Thinking more about that, here's some players I'd inquire about for Thompson, not all guards, but balance the roster a bit:

George Hill
Rondo
Kuzma (have to add something)
Derrick Jones Jr
Josh Richardson
Dario Saric
S&T Caruso
S&T Gary Trent Jr (have to add something)

Josh Richardson I loved in Philly but hasn't work out for Dallas. Maybe a championship veteran like Thompson is a nice stabilizing force? If we got him, I'd probably try to S&T Fournier for a point. Caruso and George Hill strike me as great targets and pretty realistic.

Evan Fournier will be be on this team next year.

[Bad-Thoma]

Now Thompson, on the other hand, on an expiring deal and losing his minutes to Horf and Brown needs to be cleared. Likely to a playoff team will excess guard depth that needs a gritty big.

Thinking more about that, here's some players I'd inquire about for Thompson, not all guards, but balance the roster a bit:

George Hill
Rondo
Kuzma (have to add something)
Derrick Jones Jr
Josh Richardson
Dario Saric
S&T Caruso
S&T Gary Trent Jr (have to add something)

Josh Richardson I loved in Philly but hasn't work out for Dallas. Maybe a championship veteran like Thompson is a nice stabilizing force? If we got him, I'd probably try to S&T Fournier for a point. Caruso and George Hill strike me as great targets and pretty realistic.

Evan Fournier will be be on this team next year.

I think so too, in that Gordon Hayward-lite role without the ceiling but without the injury inspired floor and at a cheaper cost. He's a just a good, versatile player to have. His presence as an off ball scorer will help negate the loss of Kemba's scoring.

[Just Woke Up]

Fournier should be the next domino to fall. I guess the team can field offers for Rob TT and Smart- or anyone really, but there is no need to move anyone. Fournier needs to be resigned or sign and traded. We are going to basically have the MLE to play with and probably not good enough to get very good vet min players.

[RickyDizzle]

Now Thompson, on the other hand, on an expiring deal and losing his minutes to Horf and Brown needs to be cleared. Likely to a playoff team will excess guard depth that needs a gritty big.

Thinking more about that, here's some players I'd inquire about for Thompson, not all guards, but balance the roster a bit:

George Hill
Rondo
Kuzma (have to add something)
Derrick Jones Jr
Josh Richardson
Dario Saric
S&T Caruso
S&T Gary Trent Jr (have to add something)

Josh Richardson I loved in Philly but hasn't work out for Dallas. Maybe a championship veteran like Thompson is a nice stabilizing force? If we got him, I'd probably try to S&T Fournier for a point. Caruso and George Hill strike me as great targets and pretty realistic.

Evan Fournier will be be on this team next year.

Agreed its most likely and I'm totally cool with that. Just in the event a Thompson trade brings back a wing, we could pivot. I'd tell the Lakers we want to give Caruso 25 mil for 3 years and give them Thompson.

[Triple7]

This could be our starting center. Bigger than 6’8 Rob and is healthy. Horford can play his natural 4 position. If we play small ball and put Tatum at the 4, it would be fine as long as we have a legit 7footer at the middle.

[ajones9219]

This could be our starting center. Bigger than 6’8 Rob and is healthy. Horford can play his natural 4 position. If we play small ball and put Tatum at the 4, it would be fine as long as we have a legit 7footer at the middle.

Horford is bad at the 4 though. Philly showcased that. When they played him at the 5 he was good. When he played the 4 he was horrible.

[ParticleMan]

i doubt moses brown is good enough to start next year, not if we have big aspirations. he's a development project and a 3rd big, who might get some serious run because the first two are old and injury prine.

rob is our starter, and horford will split minutes with him. TT will be traded. or else Rob will be traded and it will be TT/horford.

[snowman]

The guys I see as sure fire bets to be on the team next year are:

Tatum, J. Brown, Smart, Timelord. PP, Nesmith, Langford, Horford, M. Brown. I hope/expect us to resign Fournier.
That's 10 right there.

Out of the rest of the team to fill out the last 5 and the 2 two ways:

Parker - (less than 2.3 mil) should be picked up for his small salary (11th man)
G. Will - (2.617 mil) will be given a third year, but if he doesn't pick it up he will be gone at the deadline. (12th man)
Kornet -with the addition of M. Brown, Kornet will probably be allowed to walk, but may be kept on as insurance policy (13th man)
Semi -should be allowed to walk. Should have been let go last season
Edwards - (1.783 mil) experiment over, needs to be traded into a TPE somewhere so we can sign a vet wing (14th man)
Thompson - (9.721 mil) needs to be traded to bring in a decent vet PG, SG or SF (15th man)
Waters - 2 way end the 6'0 and under experiment. Fill this slot with Madar our 6'3 PG from last year draft and stash
Fall -2 way He may be kept on another year if Kornet is allowed to leave. If Kornet is resigned, then out pick 45 goes here.

[cloverleaf]

The guys I see as sure fire bets to be on the team next year are:

Tatum, J. Brown, Smart, Timelord. PP, Nesmith, Langford, Horford, M. Brown. I hope/expect us to resign Fournier.
That's 10 right there.

Out of the rest of the team to fill out the last 5 and the 2 two ways:

Parker - (less than 2.3 mil) should be picked up for his small salary (11th man)
G. Will - (2.617 mil) will be given a third year, but if he doesn't pick it up he will be gone at the deadline. (12th man)
Kornet -with the addition of M. Brown, Kornet will probably be allowed to walk, but may be kept on as insurance policy (13th man)
Semi -should be allowed to walk. Should have been let go last season
Edwards - (1.783 mil) experiment over, needs to be traded into a TPE somewhere so we can sign a vet wing (14th man)
Thompson - (9.721 mil) needs to be traded to bring in a decent vet PG, SG or SF (15th man)
Waters - 2 way end the 6'0 and under experiment. Fill this slot with Madar our 6'3 PG from last year draft and stash
Fall -2 way He may be kept on another year if Kornet is allowed to leave. If Kornet is resigned, then out pick 45 goes here.

Does Madar give up his multiyear Israeli contract for a 2-way? Probably shouldn't. And Parker only needs to be guaranteed one bite at a time.

[Triple7]

i doubt moses brown is good enough to start next year, not if we have big aspirations. he's a development project and a 3rd big, who might get some serious run because the first two are old and injury prine.

rob is our starter, and horford will split minutes with him. TT will be traded. or else Rob will be traded and it will be TT/horford.

I guess Moses will have an opportunity here to showcase himself. The size alone is intriguing. plus now we have a legit 7ft to match up against bigger 5’s if needed.