MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021

[RexBoyWonder]

https://heatnation.com/rumors/report-kristaps-porzingis-asked-to-be-traded-to-miami-heat-last-season/

https://allucanheat.com/2021/02/24/miami-heat-rumors-kristaps-porzingis/

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/sfl-miami-heat-nba-draft-s062115-story.html

Couple of past articles to digest in regards to Porzingis wanting to come here and our interest during draft.

C Kristaps Porzingis 7’3
PF Bam Adebayo 6’9
SF Jimmy Butler 6’7
SG Duncan Robinson 6’7
PG Kendrick Nunn 6’2

That’s not a bad starting 5 especially if we compliment it with a strong bench. McConnell would be a rock solid backup to Nunn.

1) Prozingis is a HUGE health risk. Huge. All the red flags are there. You have to think about the reasons Mavs want to move him. They know him better then anyone.

2) Even when healthy, he's not a first option. He's a second option at best on a good team. 3 FT a game for a 7'2 guy are a bad sign, just like the drop in blocks rate. His defense really fell off post ACL injury.

Basically he's a guy you take a gamble on if you're missing the 2/3 star and have no other option. but On this team - the best case scenario won't result in a good enough team. And If he gets hurt again, you're stuck with 3 years 35Mil$ unmovable unplayable stiff.

[RexBoyWonder]

There's a big gap between someone like Precious and the chance OKC are going to pick someone up through the G-League that will be productive. Precious he'll develop a lot faster in OKC than he would here. SGA is a good player but no one is lining up to be traded to play with him.

Who has requested a trade to OKC or stayed in OKC once they were traded there since they moved the team to OKC? Better yet at any point when a player of note requested to be traded did they even have a small market team in their list of preferences?

It’s really not, Precious would be a g-leaguer himself if that was available. And they just picked someone up a whole put up 9 & 9 straight out of the g-league. I’m talking about as SGA develops, he’s already really good and people were raving about him in his first season. And as the league shifts into the future young stars of the league, there will be players lining up to play with him.

And to name a few, Kyrie requested a trade to Minnesota and the Bucks were on AD’s list. Has nothing to do with markets. If teams are run the right way and they look like they can contend, players go to those teams. There’s a reason why the Knicks and the Lakers weren’t getting anybody, Bron basically saved that franchise from incompetence and Dolan stepping out of the way has done the Knicks wonders.

Kendrick Perkins, Victor Oladipo, and the biggest one was Paul George.

There may be players who would like to play with SGA but they don't want to do it in OKC. They can force someone to come there via trade but that guy isn't requesting to be sent there.

Kyrie named Minnesota who are a middle of the pack market along with San Antonio, Miami and the Knicks (all big market) and AD named the Bucks who are small along with the Lakers, Knicks and Clippers (all big market). But one factor in that scenario is the Bucks had the best team record and the MVP that season.

You say to name a few but I can't remember another time a good player has requested a small market.

Neither Oladipo or Paul George requested a trade to OKC, Oladipo spent one season there before being moved and PG13 forced a trade out of there after his 2nd year. Your really going to mention a career averaging 5.4ppg and 5.8rpg Kendrick Perkins as a notable player???

Moses Brown seems like a solid pickup but he is in his 2nd year and has played 1 and a half seasons in the G-League to develop and was regularly playing 25-30mpg in the last 35 games of the season with OKC.

Precious is a rookie who only played more than 25mins 4 times in the 61 games he played with us. In those 4 games he averaged 14.5ppg and 11.2rpg. If he's on OKC playing starting minutes he's averaging that for the season.

Precious, KZ, Herro - all lost a lot of trade value during this season.

Best move is to keep them, and hope the training proves worthwhile and they make the expected jump.

Don't sell young guys low. You sell high or keep developing.

[dean456]

It’s really not, Precious would be a g-leaguer himself if that was available. And they just picked someone up a whole put up 9 & 9 straight out of the g-league. I’m talking about as SGA develops, he’s already really good and people were raving about him in his first season. And as the league shifts into the future young stars of the league, there will be players lining up to play with him.

And to name a few, Kyrie requested a trade to Minnesota and the Bucks were on AD’s list. Has nothing to do with markets. If teams are run the right way and they look like they can contend, players go to those teams. There’s a reason why the Knicks and the Lakers weren’t getting anybody, Bron basically saved that franchise from incompetence and Dolan stepping out of the way has done the Knicks wonders.

Kendrick Perkins, Victor Oladipo, and the biggest one was Paul George.

There may be players who would like to play with SGA but they don't want to do it in OKC. They can force someone to come there via trade but that guy isn't requesting to be sent there.

Kyrie named Minnesota who are a middle of the pack market along with San Antonio, Miami and the Knicks (all big market) and AD named the Bucks who are small along with the Lakers, Knicks and Clippers (all big market). But one factor in that scenario is the Bucks had the best team record and the MVP that season.

You say to name a few but I can't remember another time a good player has requested a small market.

Neither Oladipo or Paul George requested a trade to OKC, Oladipo spent one season there before being moved and PG13 forced a trade out of there after his 2nd year. Your really going to mention a career averaging 5.4ppg and 5.8rpg Kendrick Perkins as a notable player???

Moses Brown seems like a solid pickup but he is in his 2nd year and has played 1 and a half seasons in the G-League to develop and was regularly playing 25-30mpg in the last 35 games of the season with OKC.

Precious is a rookie who only played more than 25mins 4 times in the 61 games he played with us. In those 4 games he averaged 14.5ppg and 11.2rpg. If he's on OKC playing starting minutes he's averaging that for the season.

Precious, KZ, Herro - all lost a lot of trade value during this season.

Best move is to keep them, and hope the training proves worthwhile and they make the expected jump.

Don't sell young guys low. You sell high or keep developing.

I think it's easy to think our guys have lost a lot of value but I really don't think NBA teams evaluate players the same way fans do. They have access to way more information about players and their progression than we do and understand how much circumstances or certain injuries can hinder players production and whether that is a long term or short term problem. Not to mention how certain players could help their team more so than they can help the team they are currently on.

I'd like to hold onto guys as well but if we can unlock our draft picks to be able to make bigger trades should they present themselves then I think its a no brainer.

[RexBoyWonder]

There may be players who would like to play with SGA but they don't want to do it in OKC. They can force someone to come there via trade but that guy isn't requesting to be sent there.

Kyrie named Minnesota who are a middle of the pack market along with San Antonio, Miami and the Knicks (all big market) and AD named the Bucks who are small along with the Lakers, Knicks and Clippers (all big market). But one factor in that scenario is the Bucks had the best team record and the MVP that season.

You say to name a few but I can't remember another time a good player has requested a small market.

Neither Oladipo or Paul George requested a trade to OKC, Oladipo spent one season there before being moved and PG13 forced a trade out of there after his 2nd year. Your really going to mention a career averaging 5.4ppg and 5.8rpg Kendrick Perkins as a notable player???

Moses Brown seems like a solid pickup but he is in his 2nd year and has played 1 and a half seasons in the G-League to develop and was regularly playing 25-30mpg in the last 35 games of the season with OKC.

Precious is a rookie who only played more than 25mins 4 times in the 61 games he played with us. In those 4 games he averaged 14.5ppg and 11.2rpg. If he's on OKC playing starting minutes he's averaging that for the season.

Precious, KZ, Herro - all lost a lot of trade value during this season.

Best move is to keep them, and hope the training proves worthwhile and they make the expected jump.

Don't sell young guys low. You sell high or keep developing.

I think it's easy to think our guys have lost a lot of value but I really don't think NBA teams evaluate players the same way fans do. They have access to way more information about players and their progression than we do and understand how much circumstances or certain injuries can hinder players production and whether that is a long term or short term problem. Not to mention how certain players could help their team more so than they can help the team they are currently on.

I'd like to hold onto guys as well but if we can unlock our draft picks to be able to make bigger trades should they present themselves then I think its a no brainer.

Let's imagine we get our OKC pick back. Who are we really getting for a middling 2023 pick?

I heard a lot of Ingram talk lately, I'd love to get him but I just don't think we have enough value to do so.

Herro + Duncan + that chit pick < Ingram IMO.

[dean456]

Precious, KZ, Herro - all lost a lot of trade value during this season.

Best move is to keep them, and hope the training proves worthwhile and they make the expected jump.

Don't sell young guys low. You sell high or keep developing.

I think it's easy to think our guys have lost a lot of value but I really don't think NBA teams evaluate players the same way fans do. They have access to way more information about players and their progression than we do and understand how much circumstances or certain injuries can hinder players production and whether that is a long term or short term problem. Not to mention how certain players could help their team more so than they can help the team they are currently on.

I'd like to hold onto guys as well but if we can unlock our draft picks to be able to make bigger trades should they present themselves then I think its a no brainer.

Let's imagine we get our OKC pick back. Who are we really getting for a middling 2023 pick?

I heard a lot of Ingram talk lately, I'd love to get him but I just don't think we have enough value to do so.

Herro + Duncan + that chit pick < Ingram IMO.

It's not that we'd only get one 2023 pick back. Because of the protections we put on the 2023 pick we are currently unable to trade any of our picks between 2023-2026 until that pick conveys to OKC in 2023. Because we can't trade a pick to another team if there's a chance that pick has to go to OKC.

Alternatively if we can just get the protections removed then we can trade 2025, 2027 FRPs and 2024, 2026 and 2028 pick swaps.

But if we can get the 2023 pick back we can then trade 2023, 2025, 2027 FRPs and pick swap 2024, 2026 and 2028 FRPs. Currently we can only trade our 2028 FRP and swap our 2027.

[NBADraft2003]

There's a big gap between someone like Precious and the chance OKC are going to pick someone up through the G-League that will be productive. Precious he'll develop a lot faster in OKC than he would here. SGA is a good player but no one is lining up to be traded to play with him.

Who has requested a trade to OKC or stayed in OKC once they were traded there since they moved the team to OKC? Better yet at any point when a player of note requested to be traded did they even have a small market team in their list of preferences?

It’s really not, Precious would be a g-leaguer himself if that was available. And they just picked someone up a whole put up 9 & 9 straight out of the g-league. I’m talking about as SGA develops, he’s already really good and people were raving about him in his first season. And as the league shifts into the future young stars of the league, there will be players lining up to play with him.

And to name a few, Kyrie requested a trade to Minnesota and the Bucks were on AD’s list. Has nothing to do with markets. If teams are run the right way and they look like they can contend, players go to those teams. There’s a reason why the Knicks and the Lakers weren’t getting anybody, Bron basically saved that franchise from incompetence and Dolan stepping out of the way has done the Knicks wonders.

Kendrick Perkins, Victor Oladipo, and the biggest one was Paul George.

There may be players who would like to play with SGA but they don't want to do it in OKC. They can force someone to come there via trade but that guy isn't requesting to be sent there.

Kyrie named Minnesota who are a middle of the pack market along with San Antonio, Miami and the Knicks (all big market) and AD named the Bucks who are small along with the Lakers, Knicks and Clippers (all big market). But one factor in that scenario is the Bucks had the best team record and the MVP that season.

You say to name a few but I can't remember another time a good player has requested a small market.

Neither Oladipo or Paul George requested a trade to OKC, Oladipo spent one season there before being moved and PG13 forced a trade out of there after his 2nd year. Your really going to mention a career averaging 5.4ppg and 5.8rpg Kendrick Perkins as a notable player???

Moses Brown seems like a solid pickup but he is in his 2nd year and has played 1 and a half seasons in the G-League to develop and was regularly playing 25-30mpg in the last 35 games of the season with OKC.

Precious is a rookie who only played more than 25mins 4 times in the 61 games he played with us. In those 4 games he averaged 14.5ppg and 11.2rpg. If he's on OKC playing starting minutes he's averaging that for the season.

That’s not what you said, you said:

Who has requested a trade to OKC or stayed in OKC once they were traded there since they moved the team to OKC? Better yet at any point when a player of note requested to be traded did they even have a small market team in their list of preferences?

And you still haven’t answered why OKC would just gift us our ‘23 1st back just for Precious and no other incentives to do that?

[twix2500]

If the Heat are able to acquire Porzingis they have to make sure they get a ball distributing point guard. Can't have a Porzingis and Bam without guards who know how to get them the ball. Lowry, Graham or Schroder has to be targets.

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[dean456]

It’s really not, Precious would be a g-leaguer himself if that was available. And they just picked someone up a whole put up 9 & 9 straight out of the g-league. I’m talking about as SGA develops, he’s already really good and people were raving about him in his first season. And as the league shifts into the future young stars of the league, there will be players lining up to play with him.

And to name a few, Kyrie requested a trade to Minnesota and the Bucks were on AD’s list. Has nothing to do with markets. If teams are run the right way and they look like they can contend, players go to those teams. There’s a reason why the Knicks and the Lakers weren’t getting anybody, Bron basically saved that franchise from incompetence and Dolan stepping out of the way has done the Knicks wonders.

Kendrick Perkins, Victor Oladipo, and the biggest one was Paul George.

There may be players who would like to play with SGA but they don't want to do it in OKC. They can force someone to come there via trade but that guy isn't requesting to be sent there.

Kyrie named Minnesota who are a middle of the pack market along with San Antonio, Miami and the Knicks (all big market) and AD named the Bucks who are small along with the Lakers, Knicks and Clippers (all big market). But one factor in that scenario is the Bucks had the best team record and the MVP that season.

You say to name a few but I can't remember another time a good player has requested a small market.

Neither Oladipo or Paul George requested a trade to OKC, Oladipo spent one season there before being moved and PG13 forced a trade out of there after his 2nd year. Your really going to mention a career averaging 5.4ppg and 5.8rpg Kendrick Perkins as a notable player???

Moses Brown seems like a solid pickup but he is in his 2nd year and has played 1 and a half seasons in the G-League to develop and was regularly playing 25-30mpg in the last 35 games of the season with OKC.

Precious is a rookie who only played more than 25mins 4 times in the 61 games he played with us. In those 4 games he averaged 14.5ppg and 11.2rpg. If he's on OKC playing starting minutes he's averaging that for the season.

That’s not what you said, you said:

Who has requested a trade to OKC or stayed in OKC once they were traded there since they moved the team to OKC? Better yet at any point when a player of note requested to be traded did they even have a small market team in their list of preferences?

And you still haven’t answered why OKC would just gift us our ‘23 1st back just for Precious and no other incentives to do that?

If your referring to the first part, none of them requested a trade to OKC or stayed there? If your referring to the second part you named one guy who requested one small market who were the top team at the time. My point still stands.

It's your opinion that they would be gifting us our pick for Precious, I don't view it as uneven value. If we have a deal in place for a whale I don't envision Riley not being able to find a way to sweeten the deal if that's what it requires. He could offer our 2022 2nd rounder or KZ Okpala or he could involve a 3rd team and send them Precious for a protected 1st then send them the FRP and a 2nd for our 1st. You act as if its going to take us offering Tyler Herro to get our 1st back.

[NBADraft2003]

There may be players who would like to play with SGA but they don't want to do it in OKC. They can force someone to come there via trade but that guy isn't requesting to be sent there.

Kyrie named Minnesota who are a middle of the pack market along with San Antonio, Miami and the Knicks (all big market) and AD named the Bucks who are small along with the Lakers, Knicks and Clippers (all big market). But one factor in that scenario is the Bucks had the best team record and the MVP that season.

You say to name a few but I can't remember another time a good player has requested a small market.

Neither Oladipo or Paul George requested a trade to OKC, Oladipo spent one season there before being moved and PG13 forced a trade out of there after his 2nd year. Your really going to mention a career averaging 5.4ppg and 5.8rpg Kendrick Perkins as a notable player???

Moses Brown seems like a solid pickup but he is in his 2nd year and has played 1 and a half seasons in the G-League to develop and was regularly playing 25-30mpg in the last 35 games of the season with OKC.

Precious is a rookie who only played more than 25mins 4 times in the 61 games he played with us. In those 4 games he averaged 14.5ppg and 11.2rpg. If he's on OKC playing starting minutes he's averaging that for the season.

That’s not what you said, you said:

Who has requested a trade to OKC or stayed in OKC once they were traded there since they moved the team to OKC? Better yet at any point when a player of note requested to be traded did they even have a small market team in their list of preferences?

And you still haven’t answered why OKC would just gift us our ‘23 1st back just for Precious and no other incentives to do that?

If your referring to the first part, none of them requested a trade to OKC or stayed there? If your referring to the second part you named one guy who requested one small market who were the top team at the time. My point still stands.

It's your opinion that they would be gifting us our pick for Precious, I don't view it as uneven value. If we have a deal in place for a whale I don't envision Riley not being able to find a way to sweeten the deal if that's what it requires. He could offer our 2022 2nd rounder or KZ Okpala or he could involve a 3rd team and send them Precious for a protected 1st then send them the FRP and a 2nd for our 1st. You act as if its going to take us offering Tyler Herro to get our 1st back.

You’re just moving goal posts with it. You asked who got traded there and signed an extension to stay, I gave a few names. Then you asked if any player requested a trade to a small market or better yet had them on list of preferences, I gave you names. And that makes my point, I doesn’t matter about market size. It’s how your team is run that attracts players. And no, neither Miami or San Antonio are big market teams. New York, Chicago, LA are the main ones and Miami is like medium. I didn’t act like anything, all I said was that it was going to take more than Precious to get that pick back and it absolutely will. Who do you think is running that front office, Billy King?

[HEATVols865]

So if Spo didn't win a playoff round since 2011 would you want him?

One was just coaching in the Finals and the other hasn’t won a series in ten years, while giving up a 2-0 lead in the first round. But yeah, let’s hire the one who hasn’t won in a decade

The spo hate is real. I swear some people here would take Bud over Spo

Your blind love for Spo hides his many flaws…these flaws being more than his qualities. Maybe he should re-open a blockbuster because handling video is what he does best…


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[HEATVols865]

I’m just here to HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
at Dwyane Wade’s team choking to a Kawhi-less Clippers. He sure is teaching Donovan Mitchell how to be a winner. SUCK IT WADE! It’s all about business and YOU ARE NOW THE ENEMY! GO DOWN WITH THE JAZZ AHAB!!!!


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[Flash4thewin]

I’m just here to HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
at Dwyane Wade’s team choking to a Kawhi-less Clippers. He sure is teaching Donovan Mitchell how to be a winner. SUCK IT WADE! It’s all about business and YOU ARE NOW THE ENEMY! GO DOWN WITH THE JAZZ AHAB!!!!


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Whats that saying don't throw things in a glass house? We got our asses swept, we got humiliated. We showed no pride, our "culture" was on display for everyone to make fun off. Thats why so many of us want drastic changes. Its pretty clear we are not where we want to be, and some serious long over due changes are coming. But yeah taunting make no sense in the position we are in with the playoffs we just had. Just makes no dam sense.

[MettaWorldPanda]

If Riley considers Tyler Herro a core piece then they need to make a firm commitment to him as the starting two guard. With that being said it’s going to be really hard to commit to Duncan Robinson for the years and amount he’ll fetch in the open market.

Now i think Duncan will give us the respect to work out a S&T before he signs an offer sheet but that will be with the team of his choosing. Now if we sign Oladipo and he comes back strong he makes for a great 6th man behind Herro.

Strus looks also to be part of the equation and the organization will work on developing him to be a Robinson like player. Nunn looks to be the one we should match. PG depth this year is low and he worked hard last year stepping back into the starting role and playing well.

Was not his fault what happened against the Bucks. He’s always made into an easy scapegoat by Spo because when Spo panics he runs to his veteran Dragic to try and save the day. Nunn and Herro are also best friends so it’s just easy to keep that duo together and let them continue to grow.

[AirP.]

https://heatnation.com/rumors/report-kristaps-porzingis-asked-to-be-traded-to-miami-heat-last-season/

https://allucanheat.com/2021/02/24/miami-heat-rumors-kristaps-porzingis/

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/sfl-miami-heat-nba-draft-s062115-story.html

Couple of past articles to digest in regards to Porzingis wanting to come here and our interest during draft.

C Kristaps Porzingis 7’3
PF Bam Adebayo 6’9
SF Jimmy Butler 6’7
SG Duncan Robinson 6’7
PG Kendrick Nunn 6’2

That’s not a bad starting 5 especially if we compliment it with a strong bench. McConnell would be a rock solid backup to Nunn.

1) Prozingis is a HUGE health risk. Huge. All the red flags are there. You have to think about the reasons Mavs want to move him. They know him better then anyone.

2) Even when healthy, he's not a first option. He's a second option at best on a good team. 3 FT a game for a 7'2 guy are a bad sign, just like the drop in blocks rate. His defense really fell off post ACL injury.

Basically he's a guy you take a gamble on if you're missing the 2/3 star and have no other option. but On this team - the best case scenario won't result in a good enough team. And If he gets hurt again, you're stuck with 3 years 35Mil$ unmovable unplayable stiff.

1. Health could be an issue but it's not the biggest reason why Dallas would want to move KP, the plan has changed in Dallas which even KP has brought up, it was suppose to be a 1a, 1b situation with him and Luka(which he also mentions now) but Luka is way too good to even consider KP anywhere near his level for offense which has made KP a 30 million dollar role-player with Luka, that money can be much better utilized then that.

2. Let's just be perfectly honest about KP. Right now KP is a very tall(7'3'') stiff that can shoot. He's a very limited offensive player who wouldn't be in the NBA if he wasn't nearly as tall as he is. That being said, he can shoot, he has the ability to get a clean shot off against nearly anyone and if one of the few people who are tall enough to contest him end up around the 3pt line with him, he should have enough skill/ability to go right past those types of players. I do see KP and Bam being a very good front court, on offense Bam could still facilitate and KP could end possessions with his shooting. On defense, KP is still weak and lanky but has the ability to keep rebounds alive that currently Miami has ZERO chance at with Bam playing center(with a stretch 4 next to him), with KP he at least stops those clean easy rebounds from going to the other team.

KP is not a finished product, get him in Miami's environment to get him stronger with the coaching staff and your best player's encouragement you may see a much better Porzingis.

Interesting numbers...
KP shot nearly 38% from 3pt range, his shot % from 3pt range did not drop nor get that much better if the defender had tight coverage on him or if he were wide open meaning his height gave him the ability not to be bothered by a defender. This is possibly also a negative too because with those numbers the other team might as well have one of your worse defender on him... in those situations KP has to be able to take advantage of that lack of defense which probably means getting closer to the basket and utilize post moves on them.

[AirP.]

If Riley considers Tyler Herro a core piece then they need to make a firm commitment to him as the starting two guard. With that being said it’s going to be really hard to commit to Duncan Robinson for the years and amount he’ll fetch in the open market.

Core pieces can be moved, anchors(Butler and Bam) are nearly untradeable because you're building the team around their talents.

Now i think Duncan will give us the respect to work out a S&T before he signs an offer sheet but that will be with the team of his choosing. Now if we sign Oladipo and he comes back strong he makes for a great 6th man behind Herro.

The respect? No... that's not what's happening, he wants the largest contract he can get WHICH does help Miami to S&T him to a team that doesn't have enough cap space. Duncan should go get as much money as he can and with that, working with Miami to do that for him makes sense.

Strus looks also to be part of the equation and the organization will work on developing him to be a Robinson like player. Nunn looks to be the one we should match. PG depth this year is low and he worked hard last year stepping back into the starting role and playing well.

Strus isn't a Robinson like player other then he shoots 3s. Robinson had plays ran to get him open, had more length to get shots off against smaller players and was able to get off 9.8 3s per36, Strus had really zero plays ran for him to get open and with his quick shot got off 10.5 3s per36.

In the last season, although Duncan had better overall 3pt% numbers, it really was closer then the final 3pt% numbers show.
Wide open
Duncan 47.7%
Strus 45.2%
Open
Duncan 40.7
Strus 37.0
The issue was the tight shots which Duncan's height may have helped him...
Tight shots
Duncan 37.7%
Strus 21.4%

My thinking is to acquire a better all around player out of a S&T with Robinson package and replace some/most of his 3pt attempts with Strus(cheap 2+1 contact) who'd be coming off the bench. Strus may not be the better player but he could by far be the better value.

[oreon]

https://heatnation.com/rumors/report-kristaps-porzingis-asked-to-be-traded-to-miami-heat-last-season/

https://allucanheat.com/2021/02/24/miami-heat-rumors-kristaps-porzingis/

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/sfl-miami-heat-nba-draft-s062115-story.html

Couple of past articles to digest in regards to Porzingis wanting to come here and our interest during draft.

C Kristaps Porzingis 7’3
PF Bam Adebayo 6’9
SF Jimmy Butler 6’7
SG Duncan Robinson 6’7
PG Kendrick Nunn 6’2

That’s not a bad starting 5 especially if we compliment it with a strong bench. McConnell would be a rock solid backup to Nunn.

1) Prozingis is a HUGE health risk. Huge. All the red flags are there. You have to think about the reasons Mavs want to move him. They know him better then anyone.

2) Even when healthy, he's not a first option. He's a second option at best on a good team. 3 FT a game for a 7'2 guy are a bad sign, just like the drop in blocks rate. His defense really fell off post ACL injury.

Basically he's a guy you take a gamble on if you're missing the 2/3 star and have no other option. but On this team - the best case scenario won't result in a good enough team. And If he gets hurt again, you're stuck with 3 years 35Mil$ unmovable unplayable stiff.

1. Health could be an issue but it's not the biggest reason why Dallas would want to move KP, the plan has changed in Dallas which even KP has brought up, it was suppose to be a 1a, 1b situation with him and Luka(which he also mentions now) but Luka is way too good to even consider KP anywhere near his level for offense which has made KP a 30 million dollar role-player with Luka, that money can be much better utilized then that.

2. Let's just be perfectly honest about KP. Right now KP is a very tall(7'3'') stiff that can shoot. He's a very limited offensive player who wouldn't be in the NBA if he wasn't nearly as tall as he is. That being said, he can shoot, he has the ability to get a clean shot off against nearly anyone and if one of the few people who are tall enough to contest him end up around the 3pt line with him, he should have enough skill/ability to go right past those types of players. I do see KP and Bam being a very good front court, on offense Bam could still facilitate and KP could end possessions with his shooting. On defense, KP is still weak and lanky but has the ability to keep rebounds alive that currently Miami has ZERO chance at with Bam playing center(with a stretch 4 next to him), with KP he at least stops those clean easy rebounds from going to the other team.

KP is not a finished product, get him in Miami's environment to get him stronger with the coaching staff and your best player's encouragement you may see a much better Porzingis.

Interesting numbers...
KP shot nearly 38% from 3pt range, his shot % from 3pt range did not drop nor get that much better if the defender had tight coverage on him or if he were wide open meaning his height gave him the ability not to be bothered by a defender. This is possibly also a negative too because with those numbers the other team might as well have one of your worse defender on him... in those situations KP has to be able to take advantage of that lack of defense which probably means getting closer to the basket and utilize post moves on them.

Stay away from KP. The past is the best predictor of future results. He can't stay healthy for a full season. No matter what the appeal is you are trading for broken goods and a bad contract.

[twix2500]

https://heatnation.com/rumors/report-kristaps-porzingis-asked-to-be-traded-to-miami-heat-last-season/

https://allucanheat.com/2021/02/24/miami-heat-rumors-kristaps-porzingis/

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/sfl-miami-heat-nba-draft-s062115-story.html

Couple of past articles to digest in regards to Porzingis wanting to come here and our interest during draft.

C Kristaps Porzingis 7’3
PF Bam Adebayo 6’9
SF Jimmy Butler 6’7
SG Duncan Robinson 6’7
PG Kendrick Nunn 6’2

That’s not a bad starting 5 especially if we compliment it with a strong bench. McConnell would be a rock solid backup to Nunn.

1) Prozingis is a HUGE health risk. Huge. All the red flags are there. You have to think about the reasons Mavs want to move him. They know him better then anyone.

2) Even when healthy, he's not a first option. He's a second option at best on a good team. 3 FT a game for a 7'2 guy are a bad sign, just like the drop in blocks rate. His defense really fell off post ACL injury.

Basically he's a guy you take a gamble on if you're missing the 2/3 star and have no other option. but On this team - the best case scenario won't result in a good enough team. And If he gets hurt again, you're stuck with 3 years 35Mil$ unmovable unplayable stiff.

1. Health could be an issue but it's not the biggest reason why Dallas would want to move KP, the plan has changed in Dallas which even KP has brought up, it was suppose to be a 1a, 1b situation with him and Luka(which he also mentions now) but Luka is way too good to even consider KP anywhere near his level for offense which has made KP a 30 million dollar role-player with Luka, that money can be much better utilized then that.

2. Let's just be perfectly honest about KP. Right now KP is a very tall(7'3'') stiff that can shoot. He's a very limited offensive player who wouldn't be in the NBA if he wasn't nearly as tall as he is. That being said, he can shoot, he has the ability to get a clean shot off against nearly anyone and if one of the few people who are tall enough to contest him end up around the 3pt line with him, he should have enough skill/ability to go right past those types of players. I do see KP and Bam being a very good front court, on offense Bam could still facilitate and KP could end possessions with his shooting. On defense, KP is still weak and lanky but has the ability to keep rebounds alive that currently Miami has ZERO chance at with Bam playing center(with a stretch 4 next to him), with KP he at least stops those clean easy rebounds from going to the other team.

KP is not a finished product, get him in Miami's environment to get him stronger with the coaching staff and your best player's encouragement you may see a much better Porzingis.

Interesting numbers...
KP shot nearly 38% from 3pt range, his shot % from 3pt range did not drop nor get that much better if the defender had tight coverage on him or if he were wide open meaning his height gave him the ability not to be bothered by a defender. This is possibly also a negative too because with those numbers the other team might as well have one of your worse defender on him... in those situations KP has to be able to take advantage of that lack of defense which probably means getting closer to the basket and utilize post moves on them.

The biggest problem for KP in Dallas is scheme. Its not Luka. Its just the difference between Phil Jackson scheme with Gasol and Kobe vs DAntoni scheme with Gasol and Kobe. This type of issue can go back to Jordan days. Prior to Phil, coaches didn't know how to utilize Jordan and get his teammates involved. The ball was in MJ hands too much. Thus MJ was getting his ass kicked.

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[MettaWorldPanda]

I won’t hold my breathe for any KP deal even though i think it makes sense for us. Cuban hates to deal with us and is probably more likely to engage OKC into a swap for Kemba Walker. OKC has a big time need for a big right now after trading two centers. OKC is also on the list in the top 3 betting favs to get KP. I guess things could get interesting S&T wise if we go after THJ.

[twix2500]

I won’t hold my breathe for any KP deal even though i think it makes sense for us. Cuban hates to deal with us and is probably more likely to engage OKC into a swap for Kemba Walker. OKC has a big time need for a big right now after trading two centers. OKC is also on the list in the top 3 betting favs to get KP. I guess things could get interesting S&T wise if we go after THJ.

I agree I think Mavs will give it another yr regardless before they change the KP/Luka core.

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[unowen85]

Send them Dragic, Duncan, Herro, Precious and get KP, Richardson, and maybe a future first. Bring Josh Richardson home, Riley.

Nunn
Richardson
Butler
Bam
KP

Dynasty.