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Jez2983 wrote:Ironically, the dunk everything Giannis we wanted to destroy after losing to Toronto is the Giannis we need most now.
Pachinko_ wrote:So Kostas decided to put his proper name on his national team jersey.
Adetokunbo is a common Nigerian name, it means something like "the king who came from overseas".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adetokunbo
And that's the surname his parents gave to the Greek authorities when they first arrived in Greece.
Then the authorities had to issue them an ID in Greek. And the reason why they **** it up so much is because of how the Greek language works, and because the official instruction they have is to translate foreign names to Greek letter-by-letter. This is called transliteration, and it's supposed to give you the best possible idea of how a foreign word sounds.
However in the Greek language there is no single letter for the sounds "D" or "B" or "U". Instead we use the double letters "NT", "ΜΠ" and "OY", and so they transliterated it to "ANTETOKOYNMΠO", and that became his official Greek surname. And if you translate this back to English letter-by-letter it becomes "ANTETOKOUNMPO". Which is basically an unpronounceable byproduct of official bureaucracy that made every NBA announcer hate his life for years
Adetokunbo is easier to read and pronounce, and most importantly it's the actual correct name. If his family had gone straight from Nigeria to USA it would've been this all along.
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His passing ability is way better. His knowing when to pass is still hit and miss.GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:ANTETOKOUNBROS wrote:Giannis is the same player or worse since his rookie year from a skills standpoint-- what has changed is that he filled out his gifted frame and regressed in all facets regarding shooting. He has not demonstrated any polish, 'cleverness' or advanced honed skills on offense , his decision making is the same as it has always been, poor and erratic-- it really does seem like he has not been coached his entire career. He has been succeeding on the basis of his physical gifts and natural ability -- I think based on the fact that he won 2 MVPs and a DPOY, proves he is probably a top 5 physically gifted player of all time.
good post... id say his usage determination and ego has increased. skills remain stagnant. while shooting confidence and accuracy have declined.
crkone wrote:Wow MD that is an interesting thing you found. You are such an important and knowledgeable poster. You must make all your partners satisfied immensely.
emunney wrote:I had actually forgotten that he wasn't still Adetokunbo when he was drafted. Draft thread enthusiasts will remember Badgerlander (then DocHoliday) and I talking about him constantly from the first DX post about him in February of that year with the pictures of his hands and A2 footage in high school gyms.
I also think he should have kept the phonetic latinate spelling.
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Plossum wrote:Genuinely thought we were screwed when Harden banked that three. That's the sort of shot that goes in when you know it's not your night.
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote: wtf is a "fit" with Giannis. hes an amazing talent but he is being over utilized offensively and too many other guys are taking flak for our failures on that end.
Prez wrote:He is very much still a flawed superstar but he's special enough to compensate for it and still be incredible. I just wish we had a non-dumbass coach who A) has the voice and stature to get through to Giannis about his correct role, and B) actually put him in that correct role night in night out.
He has top 15 all-time potential but coaching is critical for him to get there. It's why I want Carlisle so badly, perfect blend of hard-nosed coaching + elite coaching IQ/X's and O's.
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote: wtf is a "fit" with Giannis. hes an amazing talent but he is being over utilized offensively and too many other guys are taking flak for our failures on that end.
TD75 wrote:Prez wrote:He is very much still a flawed superstar but he's special enough to compensate for it and still be incredible. I just wish we had a non-dumbass coach who A) has the voice and stature to get through to Giannis about his correct role, and B) actually put him in that correct role night in night out.
He has top 15 all-time potential but coaching is critical for him to get there. It's why I want Carlisle so badly, perfect blend of hard-nosed coaching + elite coaching IQ/X's and O's.
Agreed. Giannis needs elite coaching more than other superstars.
Is that a drawback? I would assume some might say yes, it is.
I would consider this a potential advantage. I believe Giannis is actually one of the few superstars in this league that are willing to be coached. That should be a blessing for a team and not something counted against him.
There are coaches that would grow Giannis' game much more than what it is now (especially in playmaking/decision making/reading the game). You mention Carlisle. I would add Obradovic (the Bucks could possibly be in the rare situation where they could bring Obradovic and their superstar not only have no problem with that, but actually listen and follow his instructions). Surely there are others. It is the responsibility of the Bucks to find such a coach.
As I have stated, I believe that Bud is not that coach.
Matches Malone wrote:How did NBA fandom get to the point that it's more fun to thirst over players on other teams than to care more about your own team and players...
Licensed to Il wrote:Sure Giannis is flawed, just like Hakeem couldn’t shoot threes and Iverson was short and Bird tapped out early with back troubles. I think Giannis has spoiled many here. Is he perfect? Is he Durant? Is he Duncan? I think he is going to be top 30 all time, and when you have a guy like that, you just enjoy the ride. My buddy has a cute wife and she took french cooking classes one summer, and I was over once and he complained about the meal being too salty. There is a lot of nitpicking on here about our enormous, charming, Greek/Nigerian 6’11 Russell Westbrook. ****, if you want a perfect narrative get nbay2k21 and use create a player mode. If you jist want to enjoy the beautiful ark of a one of a kind athlete.. Im not sure it is more fun than Giannis, good and bad, warts and all.
Matches Malone wrote:How did NBA fandom get to the point that it's more fun to thirst over players on other teams than to care more about your own team and players...
TD75 wrote:Prez wrote:He is very much still a flawed superstar but he's special enough to compensate for it and still be incredible. I just wish we had a non-dumbass coach who A) has the voice and stature to get through to Giannis about his correct role, and B) actually put him in that correct role night in night out.
He has top 15 all-time potential but coaching is critical for him to get there. It's why I want Carlisle so badly, perfect blend of hard-nosed coaching + elite coaching IQ/X's and O's.
Agreed. Giannis needs elite coaching more than other superstars.
Is that a drawback? I would assume some might say yes, it is.
I would consider this a potential advantage. I believe Giannis is actually one of the few superstars in this league that are willing to be coached. That should be a blessing for a team and not something counted against him.
There are coaches that would grow Giannis' game much more than what it is now (especially in playmaking/decision making/reading the game). You mention Carlisle. I would add Obradovic (the Bucks could possibly be in the rare situation where they could bring Obradovic and their superstar not only have no problem with that, but actually listen and follow his instructions). Surely there are others. It is the responsibility of the Bucks to find such a coach.
As I have stated, I believe that Bud is not that coach.