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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#441 » by bucknersrevenge » Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:07 pm

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Celtics_Champs wrote:^^^ It’s probably fake, but I’ve said for years reset that juju. Agree with you.


Carsen sucks. IT would organizationally help us so much more than keeping Carsen around


We could always bring back your fave Scary Terry.
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Post#442 » by Celtics_History_Lesson » Sat Jun 19, 2021 12:26 am

Austin Ainge, Zarren, Stevens, Wyc:

We just signed free agent Kemba Walker for $140million.

We are so good.

Contracts for life.

We are the best.



That was then.



This is now.



Austin Ainge, Zarren, Stevens, Wyc:

We just removed Kemba Walker and his bloated deal and injuries and laziness from the roster by using a first round pick.

We are so good.

Contracts for life.

We are the best.



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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#443 » by GoGreen » Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:34 pm

Lakers hiring a new training staff? Maybe the Cs should do the same
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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#444 » by ParticleMan » Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:32 am

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/263038/Relationship-Between-Brad-Stevens-Kemba-Walker-Described-As-Tension-Filled

not a big surprise. but it does explain a lot. may have been part of the reason brad lost the team.

anyways you can see why brad couldn't run kemba out of town fast enough.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#445 » by Fierce1 » Sun Jun 20, 2021 9:33 am

Brad is off to a good start.

Removing Kemba and his huge contract is a big sigh of relief.

Celts now have the cap flexibility to do something significant in the off-season.

Another move that should be made is trading Tristan Thompson.
His contract is easy to move.

Celts just have too many Centers now with the addition of Horford and Moses.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#446 » by cloverleaf » Sun Jun 20, 2021 12:49 pm

GoGreen wrote:Lakers hiring a new training staff? Maybe the Cs should do the same


Considering that the reason given for the Lakers' head trainer firing was only 6 players playing at least 60 games, when the C's only had 3 playing at least 60, maybe not a bad idea (though I always question the caliber of C's docs more than the trainers): https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2021/6/19/22541474/nba-rumors-lakers-fire-head-athletic-trainer-nina-hsieh
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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#447 » by cloverleaf » Sun Jun 20, 2021 12:52 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Celtics_Champs wrote:^^^ It’s probably fake, but I’ve said for years reset that juju. Agree with you.


Carsen sucks. IT would organizationally help us so much more than keeping Carsen around


I'm not sure either IT has shown himself to be a great organization man.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#448 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sun Jun 20, 2021 12:55 pm

cloverleaf wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Celtics_Champs wrote:^^^ It’s probably fake, but I’ve said for years reset that juju. Agree with you.


Carsen sucks. IT would organizationally help us so much more than keeping Carsen around


I'm not sure either IT has shown himself to be a great organization man.


He loved Boston. LOVED it. Having him would help improve the culture of the team. Carsen adds zero.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#449 » by cloverleaf » Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:13 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
cloverleaf wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Carsen sucks. IT would organizationally help us so much more than keeping Carsen around


I'm not sure either IT has shown himself to be a great organization man.


He loved Boston. LOVED it. Having him would help improve the culture of the team. Carsen adds zero.


IT loved Boston because he thought they loved him. That's actually not the same as really loving Boston. And he was more about his touches and scoring than most players: that's not what I think this young group needs more of in example or in the mix.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#450 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:18 pm

cloverleaf wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
cloverleaf wrote:
I'm not sure either IT has shown himself to be a great organization man.


He loved Boston. LOVED it. Having him would help improve the culture of the team. Carsen adds zero.


IT loved Boston because he thought they loved him. That's actually not the same as really loving Boston. And he was more about his touches and scoring than most players: that's not what I think this young group needs more of in example or in the mix.


The fans did and do love him. He knows hes kicked and would be no dif than perk on the Cavs
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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#451 » by playa-hater » Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:41 pm

ParticleMan wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/263038/Relationship-Between-Brad-Stevens-Kemba-Walker-Described-As-Tension-Filled

not a big surprise. but it does explain a lot. may have been part of the reason brad lost the team.

anyways you can see why brad couldn't run kemba out of town fast enough.


If there was tension it wasn't because either was a bad person. It is just a situation where Kemba wanted a role of 1st option like he was in Charlotte. Obviously he couldn't get that here. Difference is Kemba, like many other ball needy players, struggle to be as productive efficiently speaking with a smaller role. That FIT was never going to work. GH left because more than anything he wanted a bigger role as well. Same for Rozier. One reason why adding a third star may not be all roses. Boston needs a "glue" Star more than anything. and/or a pass first PG type. If those players can not be found, then better get great 3 and D players who excel without the ball.
2 things need to go.. my lack of spell check and Joe.. :nod:
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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#452 » by GoGreen » Sun Jun 20, 2021 4:18 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
cloverleaf wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Carsen sucks. IT would organizationally help us so much more than keeping Carsen around


I'm not sure either IT has shown himself to be a great organization man.


He loved Boston. LOVED it. Having him would help improve the culture of the team. Carsen adds zero.


I'm with you. Bring him back just for some good juju. We could use it.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#453 » by cloverleaf » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:50 am

My takeaways from Brad's presser yesterday:

1) The C's no longer aspire to "be a handful". They now want to be "in the mix".

2) Brad had wished Danny were the type of GM to go out and have a beer with him after a tough loss.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#454 » by smooth_as_silk » Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:30 pm

playa-hater wrote:
ParticleMan wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/263038/Relationship-Between-Brad-Stevens-Kemba-Walker-Described-As-Tension-Filled

not a big surprise. but it does explain a lot. may have been part of the reason brad lost the team.

anyways you can see why brad couldn't run kemba out of town fast enough.


If there was tension it wasn't because either was a bad person. It is just a situation where Kemba wanted a role of 1st option like he was in Charlotte. Obviously he couldn't get that here. Difference is Kemba, like many other ball needy players, struggle to be as productive efficiently speaking with a smaller role. That FIT was never going to work. GH left because more than anything he wanted a bigger role as well. Same for Rozier. One reason why adding a third star may not be all roses. Boston needs a "glue" Star more than anything. and/or a pass first PG type. If those players can not be found, then better get great 3 and D players who excel without the ball.



They have, potentially, a couple already.

Smart can be that guy
FOurnier
Nesmith

Brown and Tatum are both heavy usage top end players and unless they themselves bring in a 3rd star who is willing to take on a specific role (Harden a playmaker as opposed to scorer) then it will not work. And it hasnt worked so far with Irving, Hayward or Kemba
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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#455 » by BleedGreen1989 » Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:10 pm

Am I the only one who thinks Al Horford may start for this team?
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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#456 » by ParticleMan » Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:22 pm

^^ not at all.
i think we might very well see horford start and finish, but rob play more minutes. this may be based on matchups also.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#457 » by smooth_as_silk » Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:24 pm

ParticleMan wrote:^^ not at all.
i think we might very well see horford start and finish, but rob play more minutes. this may be based on matchups also.


Got to start him for the additional ball movement.

Also I remember the tremendous chemistry that Smart and Al had on the court together in the past.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#458 » by playa-hater » Tue Jun 22, 2021 2:33 pm

smooth_as_silk wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
ParticleMan wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/263038/Relationship-Between-Brad-Stevens-Kemba-Walker-Described-As-Tension-Filled

not a big surprise. but it does explain a lot. may have been part of the reason brad lost the team.

anyways you can see why brad couldn't run kemba out of town fast enough.


If there was tension it wasn't because either was a bad person. It is just a situation where Kemba wanted a role of 1st option like he was in Charlotte. Obviously he couldn't get that here. Difference is Kemba, like many other ball needy players, struggle to be as productive efficiently speaking with a smaller role. That FIT was never going to work. GH left because more than anything he wanted a bigger role as well. Same for Rozier. One reason why adding a third star may not be all roses. Boston needs a "glue" Star more than anything. and/or a pass first PG type. If those players can not be found, then better get great 3 and D players who excel without the ball.



They have, potentially, a couple already.

Smart can be that guy
FOurnier
Nesmith


Brown and Tatum are both heavy usage top end players and unless they themselves bring in a 3rd star who is willing to take on a specific role (Harden a playmaker as opposed to scorer) then it will not work. And it hasnt worked so far with Irving, Hayward or Kemba


Smart can be, but is not a star level.
Fournier is Hayward lite, not so good on defense.
Nesmith is a up and coming 3 and D type but definitely not a star level glue guy yet.

all 3 good role players though. I do think a healthy Rob Williams can be that guy.
2 things need to go.. my lack of spell check and Joe.. :nod:
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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#459 » by playa-hater » Tue Jun 22, 2021 2:37 pm

ParticleMan wrote:^^ not at all.
i think we might very well see horford start and finish, but rob play more minutes. this may be based on matchups also.


I hate to say it, but one Big benefit for not starting RW is it may keep him from getting a BIGGER offer come FA.

Me personally I would rather just start RW but depending on matchup or need let Horford finish games. I don't feel either RW or Horford should have their starting or finishing games be set in stone. Each provides totally different values to Boston.
2 things need to go.. my lack of spell check and Joe.. :nod:
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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#460 » by Andrew McCeltic » Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:09 pm

playa-hater wrote:
ParticleMan wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/263038/Relationship-Between-Brad-Stevens-Kemba-Walker-Described-As-Tension-Filled

not a big surprise. but it does explain a lot. may have been part of the reason brad lost the team.

anyways you can see why brad couldn't run kemba out of town fast enough.


If there was tension it wasn't because either was a bad person. It is just a situation where Kemba wanted a role of 1st option like he was in Charlotte. Obviously he couldn't get that here. Difference is Kemba, like many other ball needy players, struggle to be as productive efficiently speaking with a smaller role. That FIT was never going to work. GH left because more than anything he wanted a bigger role as well. Same for Rozier. One reason why adding a third star may not be all roses. Boston needs a "glue" Star more than anything. and/or a pass first PG type. If those players can not be found, then better get great 3 and D players who excel without the ball.


Brooklyn’s made it work.. Miami.. and our title team. But you usually need one of three to take a smaller role and excel in it. We were lucky Ray did.

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