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Re: Trade Thread 2021-22: To Trade Or Trade Not 

Post#1921 » by JediMasterRevan » Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:54 pm

Dogen wrote:
JediMasterRevan wrote:Thompson amd parker for kuzma

Kuzma, timelord and edwards for pick 11 from charlotte and bridges


Smart/ pritch
Brown/fournier
Bridges/nesmith
Tatum/grantw
Horford/moses

Need a pf bench upgrade.
If smart is moved need a starting pg
Now have pick 11, more capspace and all the tpes


Basically Rob, Carsen, Jabari and Tristan for Miles Bridges and #11. I like Timelord a lot, but Bridges would be a great fit here. Love his game. Doubt Charlotte would do it, but Rob Williams would certainly be a nice add for them.

Who do you got for #11? Davion Mitchell, Jalen Johnson, Kai Jones, Giddey, Garuba -- there's going to be some good players at that spot. I hope Brad gets us back into the first round.


I think charlotte would be down with kuzma and timelord for that. Perhaps toss a second.

At 11 i would love a pg but bpa works.
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Re: Trade Thread 2021-22: To Trade Or Trade Not 

Post#1922 » by bisme37 » Sun Jun 20, 2021 3:48 pm

What might Nets do in free agency with all those decisions pending? There has been some speculation that if the Celtics buy out Al Horford, he could find a home in Brooklyn.


Hahaha. No.

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Re: Trade Thread 2021-22: To Trade Or Trade Not 

Post#1923 » by Curmudgeon » Sun Jun 20, 2021 3:54 pm

Isn't happening, just like my dream of Spencer Dinwiddie as a Celtic.
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Re: Trade Thread 2021-22: To Trade Or Trade Not 

Post#1924 » by Dogen » Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:06 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:Isn't happening, just like my dream of Spencer Dinwiddie as a Celtic.


I don't know what it would take to get Dinwiddie. It does look like just a dream. He would be the 3rd best player on the team when fully healthy.

In last year's draft I was really hoping Haliburton would slip to us or Danny would move up a couple spots, as he looks like a great compliment to the Jays. I see Haliburton as in that Dinwiddie mold, so I've also been looking out for Spenser to become available.

And that day has come. But it's just a dream. He seriously could start next season for the C's and it would be a great story line in the ongoing saga of the two teams.
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Post#1925 » by Bleeding Green » Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:15 pm

Spencer Dinwiddie is an injured point guard who can't shoot or score. A taller Kemba Walker.
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Post#1926 » by Half-Full » Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:22 pm

Dogen wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:Isn't happening, just like my dream of Spencer Dinwiddie as a Celtic.


I don't know what it would take to get Dinwiddie. It does look like just a dream. He would be the 3rd best player on the team when fully healthy.

In last year's draft I was really hoping Haliburton would slip to us or Danny would move up a couple spots, as he looks like a great compliment to the Jays. I see Haliburton as in that Dinwiddie mold, so I've also been looking out for Spenser to become available.

And that day has come. But it's just a dream. He seriously could start next season for the C's and it would be a great story line in the ongoing saga of the two teams.


Count me on the Dinwiddie bandwagon. I believe he will be a free agent, but is there a sign and trade deal to be made with Nets? They can't keep everybody, and in all likelihood Dinwiddie won't be back. I don't even attempt to understand all the cap/financial considerations that would be needed for a deal to be made, but I will happily join you and Curmudgeon in dreaming about one. :)
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Post#1927 » by Dogen » Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:25 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:Spencer Dinwiddie is an injured point guard who can't shoot or score. A taller Kemba Walker.


5" taller, 4 years younger yet an established vet, better defender, arguably better distributor, at possibly half the price.

Yeah, his three ball is not good, but he's more than just serviceable and would be the best PG on a team that just lost a starting PG. Depends on the knee, though, so I wouldn't criticize anyone for taking caveat emptor.
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Post#1928 » by Dogen » Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:35 pm

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Dogen wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:Isn't happening, just like my dream of Spencer Dinwiddie as a Celtic.


I don't know what it would take to get Dinwiddie. It does look like just a dream. He would be the 3rd best player on the team when fully healthy.

In last year's draft I was really hoping Haliburton would slip to us or Danny would move up a couple spots, as he looks like a great compliment to the Jays. I see Haliburton as in that Dinwiddie mold, so I've also been looking out for Spenser to become available.

And that day has come. But it's just a dream. He seriously could start next season for the C's and it would be a great story line in the ongoing saga of the two teams.


Count me on the Dinwiddie bandwagon. I believe he will be a free agent, but is there a sign and trade deal to be made with Nets? They can't keep everybody, and in all likelihood Dinwiddie won't be back. I don't even attempt to understand all the cap/financial considerations that would be needed for a deal to be made, but I will happily join you and Curmudgeon in dreaming about one. :)


Don't bother, did you read what Bleeding Green said? Dude can't score, so it's a moot point.

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Post#1929 » by Bleeding Green » Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:36 pm

Dinwiddie is hardly a better defender or distributor. Also he's coming off an ACL injury, and also tore his ACL in college that at the time was considered potentially career-ending. If this team adds yet another injured PG who scores below league-average efficiency I will scream. Dinwiddie averages below 50 games a season in his career. Absolute pukeworthy player. This franchise can't just keep adding injured players year after year. Every single player on the roster not named Tatum is a massive injury risk. Stay away from all the injured players, please.
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Post#1931 » by GregB » Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:40 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:Isn't happening, just like my dream of Spencer Dinwiddie as a Celtic.


Nope. Unless some random third party team wants to sign him. If the Knicks are a smart franchise now they should probably sign him.
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Re: Trade Thread 2021-22: To Trade Or Trade Not 

Post#1932 » by lon3lytoaster » Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:13 pm

Couple new/old names to think about:

Larry Nance
Harrison Barnes
Kyle Kuzma
Kyle Anderson

Not at all opposed to building a Smart package here for the top three. Really don’t love any of the guard options available via trade for us.

Question for the group, Marcus Smart could go either way of being the starter next year or being traded. How comfortable are we just giving Pritchard the reigns next year, if it’s the latter?

*I don’t think we’ll necessarily compete in the Finals next year but Rajon Rondo was also a second year guard on a championship team. Something to think about.
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Re: Trade Thread 2021-22: To Trade Or Trade Not 

Post#1933 » by captain green » Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:10 pm

Really could just focus on the damn bench pieces get a bonafide bench we have too many players that are specialist that are even do good at what they are supposed to.
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Post#1934 » by Turtle » Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:30 pm

Watching Clippers. Rondo just feeding Cousins easy buckets over and over.
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Post#1935 » by GoGreen » Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:46 pm

Really have never been a big Marcus fan, but I also don't think this team will get much better than him at PG. Just don't have the assets. May as well start him imo, and try to trade for a backup 4.
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Post#1936 » by bucknersrevenge » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:19 pm

GoGreen wrote:Really have never been a big Marcus fan, but I also don't think this team will get much better than him at PG. Just don't have the assets. May as well start him imo, and try to trade for a backup 4.


I kind of wonder if the Jay's aren't looking for a new voice off the court as well as ON it. Love Marcus but if his voice is wearing out its welcome and the Jay's feel like he's getting preferential treatment Does setting him up to be a starting PG work against us? Does re-signing him work against us, especially where an opportunity to acquire Beal at some point in the next 2 years? I mean you can't just trade Smart to trade him, but maybe gauge his value around the league a little.
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Post#1937 » by cloverleaf » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:40 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:Dinwiddie is hardly a better defender or distributor. Also he's coming off an ACL injury, and also tore his ACL in college that at the time was considered potentially career-ending. If this team adds yet another injured PG who scores below league-average efficiency I will scream. Dinwiddie averages below 50 games a season in his career. Absolute pukeworthy player. This franchise can't just keep adding injured players year after year. Every single player on the roster not named Tatum is a massive injury risk. Stay away from all the injured players, please.


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Post#1938 » by Theocy » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:02 am

Realistically speaking other than the Wolves are there any other teams really eager to blow it up ? Even the Wolves might not bee too eager to part from their 2 young stars.

If they were considering it, any opinions on Russel ? He had a bad year but 2 years back he was playing like an all star then transitioned to tanking teams and well tanked like there’s no tomorrow.

I still have russel playing against us and murdering kyrie in mind so not sure how applicable that sample is.
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Post#1939 » by moonie_mcgee » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:16 am

GoGreen wrote:Really have never been a big Marcus fan, but I also don't think this team will get much better than him at PG. Just don't have the assets. May as well start him imo, and try to trade for a backup 4.


Why not get a starting 4. I'm not sure we're winning a title with Tatum at the 4. Let JT defend the 3s and get a bigger defender, rebounder and shooter between him and our centers.
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Re: Trade Thread 2021-22: To Trade Or Trade Not 

Post#1940 » by Asian Celtic » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:19 am

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That's what Ainge would have done. I'm guessing that Stevens is interested in winning games, not hoarding assets for a big name.


The difference I hope in Brad is that he will try but will be quick to change gears if it isn’t there. I expect Rob and or Tristan will definitely be moved.


I really don't get the interest on this board in seeing Rob traded at this point.


He's uber talented but comes at the health risk. As you can see these playoffs that health is better than talent, so I won't be mad if Rob is gonna be traded for a healthier and better fit guy.

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