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Re: If Portland blows it up... 

Post#201 » by PDXKnight » Sun Jun 20, 2021 1:48 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:I dont want to take this route, but if we do this is the type of deal I would look for in return for Dame:

Barrett
IQ
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2023 DAL FRP (Protected 1-10)
2024 NYK FRP (Unprotected)
2025 NYK FRP SWAP (Top-3 Protected)
2026 NYK FRP (Unprotected)
2027 NYK FRP SWAP (Top-10 Protected)
2028 NYK FRP (Top-3 Protected)

That would get me on the phone.

Aim for unprotected FRP's that convey when Dame is 34+ and Randle 32+. Pay Powell in the meantime and keep us interested by running the below as a 6-8 seed until they start getting those FRP's to add to RJ, Simons, IQ, Little and maybe Nurkic (Who will be around 30 when they start to convey).

G - McCollum / IQ
G - Powell / Simons
F - Barrett / Little
F - Covington / BAE
C - Nurkic / Collins

Could be a fun team and you keep a treasure chest for the future. I like staying competitive as a late seed while having the picks start rolling in 2024 when NYK starts to (presumably) decline. Its one of the only Dame-trade scenarios I find appealing.


i say make 3-5 of those picks unprotected. NY needs dame better than we need to trade him and so we could really make them pay
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Post#202 » by HoopsFanAZ » Sun Jun 20, 2021 4:20 pm

Oden2 wrote:
BlazersBroncos wrote:

Could be a fun team and you keep a treasure chest for the future. I like staying competitive as a late seed while having the picks start rolling in 2024 when NYK starts to (presumably) decline. Its one of the only Dame-trade scenarios I find appealing.


I say make 3-5 of those picks unprotected. NY needs dame better than we need to trade him and so we could really make them pay


If there’s a Lillard trade this summer or next, tear it down!

I’m not in favor of this in the least, but if it’s young players, short filler contracts, and unprotected picks, go the distance.
After LAMEXIT, they were supposed to lose and get a high pick (or a couple year’s worth). Talent acquisition? More like bench players, fringe starters, and reclamation projects. I liked them, but that team was lottery bound! Lillard (and CJ) screwed that up by winning.

The only players to keep in a rebuild scenario are Little, Simons, and Elleby. Tank-o-Rama is a risky strategy, but being mediocre or just good enough to lose and not getting into the lottery is far worse. Death by thousand cuts is no way to live. I simply want Olshey to pick one clear-cut option. To go for it.

CJ traded to balance the roster with about as good or better (players). Pay up. Overpay. Draft picks are about hope and a futures market. Love ‘em. Lillard is now. Get the changes done, Olshey. Coaches and trades.
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Post#203 » by Epicurus » Sun Jun 20, 2021 4:27 pm

I think the coaching staff should get some credit (blame) for keeping a team with so many " bench players, fringe starters, and reclamation projects out of the lottery. But I guess wins are despite the coaching and losses are due to it.
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Post#204 » by HoopsFanAZ » Sun Jun 20, 2021 4:47 pm

Epicurus wrote:I think the coaching staff should get some credit (blame) for keeping a team with so many " bench players, fringe starters, and reclamation projects out of the lottery. But I guess wins are despite the coaching and losses are due to it.


I agree with you 100% on the coaches screwing it up and doing an excellent job with less early on. Not amazing but really strong work. Stotts and all were undercut by not enough talent and more recently with injuries. Both players and coaches did well. Even in the Turner years, Stotts didn’t have enough to contend. Except for injuries, the Hoodie years got closer to having the talent.

However, the defense and injuries over the last couple years ended the run. Stotts get cut. The players didn’t get it done, too. Without trades, Olshey is next.
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Re: If Portland blows it up... 

Post#205 » by GEE » Sun Jun 20, 2021 4:49 pm

For the next two years... Olshey and Dame aren't going anywhere... Get over it!
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Post#206 » by Effigy » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:13 pm

I don't want a Knicks package. Barret is a C tier prospect. I don't want Simmons in a Dame trade, I'd trade CJ for him, not Dame. If we're dealing Dame, the guy I'd want back that would be available is Michael Porter Jr. Do a deal with Denver that includes picks and MPJ and whatever else thrown in. Denver becomes the title favorites, we get a young blue chipper to build around.
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Post#207 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:17 pm

I don't want a Knicks package. Barret is a C tier prospect. I don't want Simmons in a Dame trade, I'd trade CJ for him, not Dame. If we're dealing Dame, the guy I'd want back that would be available is Michael Porter Jr. Do a deal with Denver that includes picks and MPJ and whatever else thrown in. Denver becomes the title favorites, we get a young blue chipper to build around.


MPJ is a black hole with injury issues, zero defensive talent and is quite reliant on getting open looks playing off Joker and Murray. He is also a pretty aloof guy, not someone I want to hang my hat on as a franchise face prospect. I think he has more talent that Barrett, but I like Barrett and the picks (As Dame + Randle is an older core) more than MPJ and picks (w/ Joker and Murray being pretty young still, and the franchise in general showing the ability to build well since their GM came over).

I would bet on Barrett + NYK picks before MPJ + DEN picks. I like the health and more mature mentality of RJ over MPJ and more than anything would bet on NYK being good as a 'flash in the pan' w/ Dame/Randle then declining before betting against DEN and their FO/young talent.

But, ya, I am far from someone who thinks MPJ is a true blue chip guy. I think he would be tremendously selfish and finger-pointy on a bad team where he is asked to be 'the guy'. I just hate his personality and on court body language.
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Post#208 » by Blazers20 » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:22 pm

I like MPJ and I think he has star qualities, he’s 6’10 with handles, he can create his own shot and can handle the ball.

DEN: Dame
PHI: J.Murray
POR: MPJ-Bol-B.Simmons
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Post#209 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:19 pm

POR: MPJ-Bol-B.Simmons


I would be absolutely frightened to hand my franchise over to this trio. I dont think a single one of these guys has a ounce of leadership qualities.
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Post#210 » by DusterBuster » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:01 pm

GEE wrote:For the next two years... Olshey and Dame aren't going anywhere... Get over it!


I'll live with Olshey staying if Dame does. I'd prefer someone different with a new perspective at the GM spot, but if Olshey pulls a rabbit out of his hat and pulls the team out of this tailspin with some big moves and a successful postseason run next year... then fine, keep your job.
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Post#211 » by DusterBuster » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:13 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:
POR: MPJ-Bol-B.Simmons


I would be absolutely frightened to hand my franchise over to this trio. I dont think a single one of these guys has a ounce of leadership qualities.


Agreed. In all honesty, that probably is a Kings-level squad. Probably a .500 or near 500 team. You would need a superstar lottery pick to really anchor those guys who are all near-all star level. But also, getting all those guys even in a blowup scenario is not super realistic.

If the Blazers go full on rebuild, I think they end up looking a lot more like the Thunder. Maybe one blue-chipper... maybe Simmons is that guy. But that guy with a crapload of picks and at that point, hope a few of those picks pan out fast.
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Post#212 » by bmc11 » Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:48 pm

I truly believe we are not trading Lillard, but if POR knows that they are not going to be able to make the trades to please Dame (everybody know Neil won´t) we could model the OKC rute:

POR out: Lillard, CJ, Nurkic, Powell ((S&T 18.7M), Covington and D.Jones Jr
POR in: Thybulle, Wall, Wiggins, G.Hill, Hood, Culver, lots of draft capital (12 FRPs and 2 SRP)

Picks:
#2 pick
#7 pick
#23 pick
#24 pick
#46 pick
#47 pick
2022 FRP via Detroit
2022 FRP NOP (Top 10 Protected)
2022 FRP (Nets/HOU/MIA)
2022 FRP (Nets/HOU/MIA)
2022 FRP MIN (top 3 protected),
2024 FRP MIN (Top 8 protected)
2022 FRP GSW (top 10 protected)
2024 FRP (vía Nets)

Draft 2021: #2 (Mobley, Green or Suggs), #7 (Barnes, Kuminga, Wagner or Moody), #23 (Garuba, Duarte, Zaire, Kai Jones), #24 (Garuba, Duarte, Zaire, Kai Jones), #46 (Thor, Boston, Sharpe), #47 (Thor, Boston, Sharpe).... or we could trade up for Cade?

Present line up:

PG: Wall / Suggs (#2FRP) / G.Hill
SG: Duarte / Simons / Culver / Elleby
SF: Thybulle / Wagner (#7) / Hood
PF: Wiggins / Little / Thor #46
C: Vet Min / Vet Min / Sharpe #47

Future line up:

PG: Suggs
SG: Duarte / Simons
SF: Thybulle / 2022 high draft pick (Adrian Griffin, Peyton Watson Caleb Houstan)
PF: Wagner / Little
C: 2022 high draft pick (Homgren, Banchero, Jabari Smith or Nzosa)

Why for POR: they cash out with a lot of draft capital and hope to improve value of their new bad contracts (Wall, Wiggins) so they can trade them ala OKC. POR try to do a quick (and smart) rebuild so when 2023/2024 free agency comes POR has young stars / starters in their rookie salaries and can build around their new franchise players.

HOU out: Wall, Gordon, Bradly, Augustin, #2 Pick, #23 pick, #24 pick, 2022 FRP via Detroit, 2022 FRP (Nets/HOU/MIA), 2022 FRP (Nets/HOU/MIA), 2024 FRP (vía Nets)

HOU in: Lillard, Beasly, S. Adams, Hernangomez, Layman

PG: Lillard / min vet
SG: Beasly / Porter
SF: House / Tate / Layman
PF: Wood / K. Martin jr
C: Bobby Porter or Nernels Noel (MLE) / S. Adams

Why for Hou: They go all in to compete for a championship

76ers out: Simmons, Thybulle, G.Hill

76ers in: Lowry (S&T 18M), CJ

PG: Lowry / Milton
SG: CJ / Curry / Maxey
SF: Green / MLE
PF: Harris / Reed / Scott
C: Embiid / Vet min

Why for 76ers: They surround Embiid with playmakers and most importantly shooters

MIN out: Beasly, Rubio, Culver, Layman, Hernangomez, 2022 FRP (top 3 protected), 2024 FRP (Top 5 protected)
MIN in: Simmons, E. Gordon

PG: Russel / Nowell
SG: Edwards / E.Gordon / Okogie
SF: Mcdaniels / MLE
PF: Simmons / Vet min
C: KAT / Reid

Why for MIN: They get a all star to pair with KAT, Simmons plays PG in transition and PF in half court with a team full of shooters

TOR out: Lowry (S&T 18M), Hood, #46 pick, #47 pick
TOR in: Nurkic, Rubio

PG: Suggs / Rubio / Flynn
SG: VanVleet / Trent Jr
SF: Anunoby / Bembry
PF: Siakam / Watanabe
C: Nurkic / Boucher

Why for TOR: They get a young (26) C to pair with Siakam and a PG to help groom their new prized rookie, TOR now how hard it was to create a winning culture and does not want to tear this culture, this trade helps archieve that without sacrificing their future

GSW out: Wiggins, #7, 2022 FRP (top 10 protected)
GSW in: Covington, Powell (S&T 18.7M)

PG: Curry / MLE
SG: Klay / Powell
SF: Covington / Oubre jr
PF: Draymond / Eric Paschal / Toscano
C: Wiseman / Looney

Why for GSW: They get back to contention with two great 3D role players

NOP Out: S.Adams, 2022 FRP (Top 10 Protected)
NOP In: D.Jones Jr

Why for NOP: They get out of Adams contract so they can save money (-7.4M in 2021 and -9.7 in 2022) to resign Lonzo

I´m not sure NOP does this, but I believe with a few light changes (protection of pick) this could please everyone?
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Post#213 » by BlazersBroncos » Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:54 pm

Bored, but this would be my total-blow-up:

If NYK wants Dame, I want this:

Damian Lillard

FOR

RJ Barrett
Kevin Knox
#19 or #21
2023 DAL FRP (Protected 1-10)
2024 NYK FRP (Unprotected)
2025 NYK FRP SWAP (Unprotected)
2026 NYK FRP (Unprotected)
2027 NYK FRP SWAP (Unprotected)
2028 NYK FRP (Unprotected)

Follow up w/

McCollum, Nurkic for Adams, Bledsoe, NAW, #10, LAC Future FRP (Bledsoe cut)
RoCo for Kennard, #25

10 - Jalen Johnson F
21 - Usman Garuba C
25 - JT Thor F

G - Anfernee Simons / NAW
G - Luke Kennard / NAW / CJ Elleby
F - RJ Barrett / Nassir Little / Kevin Knox
F - Jalen Johnson / JT Thor / Kevin Knox
C - Steven Adams / Usman Garuba
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Post#214 » by b33nine » Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:11 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:Bored, but this would be my total-blow-up:

If NYK wants Dame, I want this:

Damian Lillard

FOR

RJ Barrett
Kevin Knox
#19 or #21
2023 DAL FRP (Protected 1-10)
2024 NYK FRP (Unprotected)
2025 NYK FRP SWAP (Unprotected)
2026 NYK FRP (Unprotected)
2027 NYK FRP SWAP (Unprotected)
2028 NYK FRP (Unprotected)

Follow up w/

McCollum, Nurkic for Adams, Bledsoe, NAW, #10, LAC Future FRP (Bledsoe cut)
RoCo for Kennard, #25

10 - Jalen Johnson F
21 - Usman Garuba C
25 - JT Thor F

G - Anfernee Simons / NAW
G - Luke Kennard / NAW / CJ Elleby
F - RJ Barrett / Nassir Little / Kevin Knox
F - Jalen Johnson / JT Thor / Kevin Knox
C - Steven Adams / Usman Garuba


I'm not very high on Barret, and it sure seems like that trade package leaves us with a lot of picks that would probably end up being 16-25, if you trade Dame to NY and don't get IQ and/or Toppin back as "might blow up" prospects I think you've failed pretty hard too. A Dame trade that doesn't have a blue chip prospect or a guaranteed low lottery pick (ideally both) is just throwing away his value in my mind.

I have no idea what a blow-up package for CJ would or should look like, but I'm ok with holding onto him because I think he would be a good player to teach young guys how to be professionals while also not being good enough to keep you from being bad all by himself. Realistically we could trade him much closer to his contract expiring, or we'd probably be in a new window to compete by the time his money comes off the books.
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Post#215 » by BlazersBroncos » Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:45 pm

I'm not very high on Barret, and it sure seems like that trade package leaves us with a lot of picks that would probably end up being 16-25, if you trade Dame to NY and don't get IQ and/or Toppin back as "might blow up" prospects I think you've failed pretty hard too. A Dame trade that doesn't have a blue chip prospect or a guaranteed low lottery pick (ideally both) is just throwing away his value in my mind.


I disagree on RJ, I like him quite a bit. IMO he can be a low tier #2 / high tier #3 on a playoff team. I think he is on a similar talent level as Kris Middleton. His 3PT shooting improvement last season is incredibly encouraging.

I dont value IQ or Toppin much, and I certainly dont see either being the types to move a pick a serious amount in either direction. IQ is a microwave scorer, not a guy that can be a top-3 option on a playoff team. I want to target youth that I see as potential top-3 option types and fill in the rest once the team is progressing. I would pay RJ, I wouldnt pay IQ. That about sums it up. Same for Toppin, but he projects even less as a guy to have a clear cut role on a good team than RJ (#2/#3 option) or IQ (6th man). I think he is nothing of note. And I dont think either blow up in NYK. I would rather get a non-lotto protected FRP than either guy and a lotto protected one.

But the picks, I disagree on the most. This trade gives us NYK's best young player, so it shortens their window. If you look, the unprotected picks begin to convert the summer that Dame is 34 and Randle is 29. By the last pick, they will be 38 and 33 respectively.

I think there is a great chance those picks are lotto by the first swap option, if not 2024 itself.

I see this package as netting a blue chipper a tier below SGA / Ingram, but netting picks much more likely to be valuable. I think its as good a deal as one could expect. And I expect 2-3 of those picks to be top-10 personally, albeit nothing is guaranteed.
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Post#216 » by b33nine » Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:59 pm

I respect your opinion. Personally I don't see anything wrong with grabbing IQ and Toppin, letting them develop and then making that decision. Those guys could become further draft picks or used in trades when we do make the move from being bad to being good again (or one might just blow up). I'm not really saying I'd swap one or both out for the draft picks, I'm saying I'd also require one or both to be in the trade.

I can understand on wanting to take that gamble on draft pick potential, but when you're trading away a Dame, it seems overly risky to do so without any picks that are guaranteed top 8 or so. I've said it before, but to me the Wiggins/Wiseman/7/14 trade package is infinitely more intriguing to me than this one, but that also might just be me wanting an immediate return, while also getting to be bad for a couple years.
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Post#217 » by BlazersBroncos » Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:33 pm

I can understand on wanting to take that gamble on draft pick potential, but when you're trading away a Dame, it seems overly risky to do so without any picks that are guaranteed top 8 or so. I've said it before, but to me the Wiggins/Wiseman/7/14 trade package is infinitely more intriguing to me than this one, but that also might just be me wanting an immediate return, while also getting to be bad for a couple years.


Ya, I guess we just are not going to agree here.

I value Wiseman much, much less than someone like RJ. I question his maturity, feel for the game, intensity and overall basketball talent. Players who are as poor as he was as a rookie rarely make the monumental jump necessary to become great. Not to mention I dont see a non-generational big man as the type of player you build your team around in this era of NBA basketball.

I think a player with the skillset of Barrett is much more likely to be a quality 'big-3' type on a playoff team than a player of the skillset of Wiseman. I am just not sure where the Wiseman love comes from, and think RJ is slept on because he is sorta good at everything, not elite at anything, and not a flashy guy. This again is why I compare his talent / game to Middleton (Who didnt put up a season as good as RJ's sophomore year until years into his career). But the maturity plays a part too, despite his age RJ is a really dedicated, hardworking dude who can IMO handle being the temporary face of a franchise (I say temporary b/c we would need to find that true, 1/2 option face in the draft). I dont think Wiseman can be that same guy.

The 7th + 14th picks in place of a bucket of unprotected future picks are more of a 'how do you prefer to gamble' type argument. I would take numerous lotto tickets in the future that have a higher chance of being really, really good than two middle tier lotto tickets today. I dont see a talent likely available at 7 that would be worth scratching the ticket now rather than waiting for the future.
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Post#218 » by Goldbum » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:01 pm

If we blow it all up I really like Cam Reddish as a reclamation project...
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Post#219 » by BlazersBroncos » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:47 pm

Goldbum wrote:If we blow it all up I really like Cam Reddish as a reclamation project...


Same, have him involved in my Portland Blows Up plan. See below:

TRADE 1

Portland Trades
Damian Lillard

New York Trades
RJ Barrett
Kevin Knox
#19
2023 DAL FRP (Protected 1-10)
2024 NYK FRP (Unprotected)
2025 NYK FRP SWAP (Unprotected)
2026 NYK FRP (Unprotected)
2027 NYK FRP SWAP (Unprotected)
2028 NYK FRP (Unprotected)

WHY FOR PORTLAND
If they cant put the squad around Dame that he deserves, this is as good as I could expect in return for him. They get a guy in RJ that has the maturity you want in a player experiencing a rebuild (Similar to SGA in that accord) and who, IMO, projects as a low tier #2 / high tier #3 on a good playoff team. I view his talent level as similar to Middleton. The picks are purposefully pushed out to the post-Dame prime as any picks during the Dame NYK prime years will be near worthless. #19 in a strong draft is decent and Knox was once seen as a talent so there is that.

WHY FOR NYK
They make the big move to maximize the Randle years and get a superstar. Dame and Randle are great, but they also are left with enough cap space to sign another high caliber talent. PDX taking Knox helps open more cap space and they keep both IQ and Obi. They still have loads of cap space after this and Dame recruits his buddy DDR, while using the remaining money on the sharpshooting Duncan Robinson. The Room MLE is used on Bullock., VM for Gibson.

G – Damian Lillard / Immanuel Quickley / Luca Vildoza
G – Demar DeRozan / Immanuel Quickley / BJ Boston (32)
F – Duncan Robinson / Reggie Bullock / Trey Murphy (21)
F – Julius Randle / Obi Toppin / Trey Murphy (21)
C – Mitchell Robinson / Taj Gibson / Norvel Pelle

TRADE 2

Portland Trades
CJ McCollum
Jusuf Nurkic

New Orleans Trades
Steven Adams
Eric Bledsoe
#10
2022 LAL FRP
2022 NO SRP
2024 NO SRP

WHY FOR PORTLAND
With Dame gone, they go into full rebuild mode. CJ and Nurkic are no longer in the plans. Here they get a lotto pick and 3 future picks (One a FRP) while taking on some bad salary. Bledsoe is bought out but Adams is kept around as a good locker room leader for the youngsters.

WHY FOR NO
They need to build around Zion in a hurry and get the shot creating guard they lack here in CJ. Jusuf is a very talented defensive C who is developing a 3 and will be basically just a much better version of Adams, and younger to boot. Sign a versatile forward for the full MLE like Nicolas Batum and your sitting pretty IMO.

G – CJ McCollum / Kira Lewis Jr / Rokas Jokubaitis (40)
G – Josh Hart / NAW / Wes Iwundu
F – Brandon Ingram / Nicolas Batum / Didi Louzada
F – Zion Williamson / Nicolas Batum / Weynen Gabriel
C – Jusuf Nurkic / Jaxton Hayes / Neemias Queta (35)

TRADE 3

Portland Trades
Robert Covington

Atlanta Trades
Kris Dunn
Cam Reddish
#20

WHY FOR PORTLAND
Again, its youth time so they move RoCo to a team in win-now mode and get a lanky 3/D prospect who flashes, albeit not nearly enough to justify minutes on a good team. Well, PDX wont be too good and they can let him work through his ups-and-downs with volume. Dunn is a nice defensive deep bench guy who will give hell in practices and they obtain a FRP

WHY FOR ATLANTA
They obtain an excellent 3/D veteran who helps their already deep team take the next step in 21/22. He helps cover for the injury histories of Hunter and Danilo. I would resign Lou after his playoff run, Tony Snell to the BAE and draft a developmental backup PG.

G – Trae Young / Lou Williams / Daishen Nix (48)
G – Kevin Huerter / Bogdan Bogdanovic / Tony Snell
F – De’Andre Hunter / Robert Covington / Tony Snell
F – John Collins / Danilo Gallinari / Robert Covington
C – Clint Capella / Onyeka Okongwu / Bruno Fernando

2021 NBA DRAFT

10 – Jalen Johnson F – I have been high on Johnson for some time and view him as a guy with the potential to be a middle tier #2 option. He can score in a variety of ways, has upper tier athleticism, is great handling the ball in the open court, possesses underrated passing skills and a workable 3PT shot. I think he is an ideal guy for a full rebuilding team to target and spoon feed usage early on to maximize his skillset. He has some character murmurs, but I believe in the Blazers org and the otherwise high character team sorting those out.

19 – Jaden Springer G – Another underrated prospect IMO, Springer is crafty around the rim and able to score at all 3 levels. He tested tremendously and was apparently playing injured in 20/21. He may be more of a CG than a true 1 or 2, but I believe he can find a long term fit on this team. Part of me sees him as the player we thought Jerryd Bayless was.

20 – Usman Garuba CF – Every team in this era is looking for a low usage switchy defender that can hit a 3, and I believe Usman has a great chance to become that guy. He is going to get tons of minutes, mentored by Adams and can be allowed to make mistakes as he carves out his long term fit as a 3/D, switchy, low usage big.

FREE AGENCY

TJ McConnell PG *** Full MLE 3Y – PO Y3 *** I am a big believer that you cant just go with youth. You need to have some veterans around to help the development and show them how to be hardworking professionals. That is TJ, a guy who plays every possession like he could be cut after the game. He knows how to run an offense and will get guys open looks while setting the tone with his hustle and locker room professionalism. I think he, Adams and the older-than-his-years RJ can help build a good culture
even while in development (IE Tank) mode.

Mortiz Wagner CF *** Vet Min 1Y *** PDX plans to spoon feed Garuba but takes a flyer on Wagner if the youngster is just not NBA ready. He can spread the floor at least.

Zach Collins C *** 3/6M – TO Y2 + TO Y3 *** The kids career may be cooked, but PDX takes a(nother) chance on him recovering and offers to pay for his rehab this season. The tradeoff is two extremely cheap years if he recovers. It’s a decent gamble a player of his talent IMO.

G – Anfernee Simons (20) / TJ McConnell (28)
G – RJ Barrett (16) / Jaden Springer (24) / Anfernee Simons (8)
F – Cam Reddish (28) / RJ Barrett (16) / Nassir Little (4)
F – Jalen Johnson (28) / Nassir Little (20)
C – Steven Adams (24) / Usman Garuba (24)

DEEP BENCH : Kris Dunn, CJ Elleby, Kevin Knox, Mortiz Wagner, Zach Collins

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2022 LAL FRP
2022 NO SRP
2023 DAL FRP (Protected 1-10)
2024 NYK FRP (Unprotected)
2024 NO SRP
2025 NYK FRP SWAP (Unprotected)
2026 NYK FRP (Unprotected)
2027 NYK FRP SWAP (Unprotected)
2028 NYK FRP (Unprotected)
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Re: If Portland blows it up... 

Post#220 » by bmc11 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:28 pm

Different blow up:

POR Out: Dame, CJ, Covington, Nurkic, D.Jones Jr

POR In: Bledsoe, Baynes, Hood, Wiggins, Wiseman, G.Hill, Ricky Rubio, 8 FRPs, 2 swaps

Picks:
#4
#10
#14
2022 LAL FRP
2022 swap (NOP/POR)
2022 FRP MIN (top 3 protected)
2023 FRP best of Min/POR
2023 best of LAL/NOP/POR
2023 second best of LAL/NOP/POR
2024 LAL FRP
2022 FRP GSW (top 8 protected)

PG: Suggs (#4) / G.Hill / Vet min
SG: Bledsoe / Simons / Elleby
SF: Wiggins / Wagner (#14) / Hood
PF: Guraba (#14) / Little / Vet min
C: Wiseman / Baynes / Vet min

NOP Out: Ingram, Bledsoe, #10, 2022 LAL FRP, 2022 swap (NOP/POR), 2023 best of LAL/NOP/POR, 2023 second best of LAL/NOP/POR, 2024 LAL FRP

NOP In: Lillard

PG: Lillard / Kira
SG: Ball / Hart / Alexander Walker
SF: MLE / Inwundu / Vet. min
PF: Zion / Hernangomez
C: Adams / Hayes

GSW Out: Wiggins, Wiseman, #7 pick, #14 pick, 2022 FRP (top 8 protected)
GSW In: Ingram, Covington

PG: Curry / MLE
SG: Klay / Toscano
SF: Ingram / Oubre
PF: Covington / Paschal
C: Green / Looney

TOR Out: #4, Baynes, Hood
TOR In: #7, Nurkic, D.Jones Jr
PG: Lowry (resign) / MLE
SG: Vanvleet / Gary Trent Jr
SF: Anunoby / Yuta / D. Jones Jr
PF: Siakam / Boucher
C: Nurkic / Barnes (#7… if not available Kuminga)

PHI Out: Simmons, G.Hill
PHI In: Cj, Beasley

PG: CJ / Shake/ Vet min
SG: Beasley / Curry / Maxey
SF: Thybulle / D.Green
PF: Harris / MLE / Scott
C: Embiid / Reed / Vet min

Min Out: Rubio, Beasley, 2022 FRP (top 3 protected), 2023 FRP Swap Min/POR

Min In: Simmons

PG: Russel / MLE / Nowell
SG: Edwards / Okogie / Culver
SF: Simmons / Layman / Bolmaro
PF: McDaniels / Hernangomez
C: KAT / Reid / Vet min.

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