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GHOSTofSIKMA wrote: wtf is a "fit" with Giannis. hes an amazing talent but he is being over utilized offensively and too many other guys are taking flak for our failures on that end.
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Kostas looks way better. He gained a lot of strength.
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote: I think that we will do worse than last season and that Giannis is now just a mere all star. All because we switched from Bud to Griffin.
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greekbuck34 wrote:Kostas looks way better. He gained a lot of strength.
Take the QO & join Giannis in another season.

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I have to admit it, I laughed more than I should


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Whats hilarious is that no one is calling Game 7 at Brooklyn the "Giannis Game." Even though in a hostile environment he had a 40-13-5 with efficiency and superlative effort, while going toe to toe against, arguably, the best player alive and winning.TD75 wrote:
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"Wes, Hill, Ibaka, Allen, Nwora, Brook, Pat, Ingles, Khris are all slow-mo, injury prone ... a sandcastle waiting for playoff wave to get wrecked. A castle with no long-range archers... is destined to fall. That is all I have to say."-- FOTIS
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No one's gonna give Giannis his due until he's hoisting that Finals trophy in one hand and the Finals MVP in the other. I think people just need to stop looking for outside validation from idiots that think things like "Lebron is the GOAT, you're not a real superstar if you don't hAVe A BaG, KD's an Alpha", etc. etc. As much as I despise hot take culture in other sports and in general, the NBA culture/fanbase/media is still by far the worst when it comes to correctly analyzing and assigning credit/blame to what wins series and championships. People tend to have the memory of a goldfish, and context and critical thinking have been replaced by "opinions". Giannis will go down as one of the best to ever play the game, whether the idiots of the world like it or not.
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The free throw routine thing is admittedly annoying. And postseason struggles from the line are equally annoying. Especially since he hit 70% in the regular season. But this video/all-too-common take is frankly lazy as hell. "So many holes in his game...blah blah blah..."
As I've been saying and repeating on this forum for years, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF GIANNIS EVER DEVELOPS A RELIABLE JUMP SHOT. People just need to stop with that. Its not gonna happen. Who f***ing cares? There is no perfect player. The constant focus from talking heads and fans on Giannis' "jumper" or "bag" or " he's out of control" or "low bball IQ" takes the focus away from the fact that he's regarded as the best player in the world by people who actually have knowledge and clout. Only unanimous 1st team All-NBA this season. 2 MVPs. A DPOY award. He's 26. We're conditioned to focus on the negatives. Why? Because thats the nature of "gotcha" social media.
But the fact remains that Giannis does a number of things on the basketball court that have never been done before. He is so completely dominant that you can sag off, give him any jumper on the floor he wants, he'll refuse, and still get to the rack or make the right pass to an open shooter. His story is still one of the greatest in sports history. Yet too many Bucks fans get wrapped up on talking head narratives and embarrassingly crap out that abortion of a Nets Game 5 PG Thread. Probably the lowest point in BucksRealGM history. The takes, my god. The Giannis slander, pathetic. Again, recognize the fact that there will never be a perfect player and appreciate what you have.
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Ron Swanson wrote:No one's gonna give Giannis his due until he's hoisting that Finals trophy in one hand and the Finals MVP in the other. I think people just need to stop looking for outside validation from idiots that think things like "Lebron is the GOAT, you're not a real superstar if you don't hAVe A BaG, KD's an Alpha", etc. etc. As much as I despise hot take culture in other sports and in general, the NBA culture/fanbase/media is still by far the worst when it comes to correctly analyzing and assigning credit/blame to what wins series and championships. People tend to have the memory of a goldfish, and context and critical thinking have been replaced by "opinions". Giannis will go down as one of the best to ever play the game, whether the idiots of the world like it or not.
I also think Jordan has broken the brains of so many NBA fans and analysts. You can't just have Jordan's success you have to stylistically do it the same way he did it. We're seeing the Devin Booker bandwagon really begin in earnest, and no disrespect to Booker he's a tremendous player who has a HOF career ahead of him. But his narrative building will benefit from having that type of game. Giannis tying the game by backing down a guy and hitting a 5 foot jump hook doesn't mean as much as a guy doing it by hitting a contested 20 footer even though it literally means the exact same amount.
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The free throw routine thing is admittedly annoying. And postseason struggles from the line are equally annoying. Especially since he hit 70% in the regular season. But this video/all-too-common take is frankly lazy as hell. "So many holes in his game...blah blah blah..."
As I've been saying and repeating on this forum for years, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF GIANNIS EVER DEVELOPS A RELIABLE JUMP SHOT. People just need to stop with that. Its not gonna happen. Who f***ing cares? There is no perfect player. The constant focus from talking heads and fans on Giannis' "jumper" or "bag" or " he's out of control" or "low bball IQ" takes the focus away from the fact that he's regarded as the best player in the world by people who actually have knowledge and clout. Only unanimous 1st team All-NBA this season. 2 MVPs. A DPOY award. He's 26. We're conditioned to focus on the negatives. Why? Because thats the nature of "gotcha" social media.
But the fact remains that Giannis does a number of things on the basketball court that have never been done before. He is so completely dominant that you can sag off, give him any jumper on the floor he wants, he'll refuse, and still get to the rack or make the right pass to an open shooter. His story is still one of the greatest in sports history. Yet too many Bucks fans get wrapped up on talking head narratives and embarrassingly crap out that abortion of a Nets Game 5 PG Thread. Probably the lowest point in BucksRealGM history. The takes, my god. The Giannis slander, pathetic. Again, recognize the fact that there will never be a perfect player and appreciate what you have.
Ηey, what happens in game thread stays in game thread.
Post game thread, we're still cooling down.
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JimmyTheKid wrote:
The free throw routine thing is admittedly annoying. And postseason struggles from the line are equally annoying. Especially since he hit 70% in the regular season. But this video/all-too-common take is frankly lazy as hell. "So many holes in his game...blah blah blah..."
As I've been saying and repeating on this forum for years, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF GIANNIS EVER DEVELOPS A RELIABLE JUMP SHOT. People just need to stop with that. Its not gonna happen. Who f***ing cares? There is no perfect player. The constant focus from talking heads and fans on Giannis' "jumper" or "bag" or " he's out of control" or "low bball IQ" takes the focus away from the fact that he's regarded as the best player in the world by people who actually have knowledge and clout. Only unanimous 1st team All-NBA this season. 2 MVPs. A DPOY award. He's 26. We're conditioned to focus on the negatives. Why? Because thats the nature of "gotcha" social media.
But the fact remains that Giannis does a number of things on the basketball court that have never been done before. He is so completely dominant that you can sag off, give him any jumper on the floor he wants, he'll refuse, and still get to the rack or make the right pass to an open shooter. His story is still one of the greatest in sports history. Yet too many Bucks fans get wrapped up on talking head narratives and embarrassingly crap out that abortion of a Nets Game 5 PG Thread. Probably the lowest point in BucksRealGM history. The takes, my god. The Giannis slander, pathetic. Again, recognize the fact that there will never be a perfect player and appreciate what you have.
I could care less if Freak ever becomes a three-point shooter, agreed. He would do himself a world of good if he just said "Ante Gamisou (Greek for "f*ck off)" and embraced his dominant PF/C role. His mid-range shot (when he doesn't hesitate) looks perfectly fine and he doesn't have to stylistically be the same type of player as LeBron or Durant. If anything I'd have him practice the baby-hook that he likes to shoot, develop a counter off of that and he's fine. He can get that shot any time he wants.
I was listening to Simmons and Russillo yesterday and Simmons made the point that "when he was on the left block, he was virtually unstoppable it seemed. He either scored, drew a double and found a shooter, or got fouled." If Gianni just were to focus his game and polish it from about 15-17ft and in, he can (and likely will) dominate the league for another 5-7 years. That and just work to getting his FT% to around 70-75% even and he's fine.
He's 26, just entered his prime and has already established an incredible resume. I love watching this kid play and I can't wait to see him grow into an even more dominant force.
"Wes, Hill, Ibaka, Allen, Nwora, Brook, Pat, Ingles, Khris are all slow-mo, injury prone ... a sandcastle waiting for playoff wave to get wrecked. A castle with no long-range archers... is destined to fall. That is all I have to say."-- FOTIS
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If Giannis adds the Tim Duncan leftside, midrange bankshot he'll be unguardable. I think that's doable given the rest of his game.
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jmart762 wrote:If Giannis adds the Tim Duncan leftside, midrange bankshot he'll be unguardable. I think that's doable given the rest of his game.
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From either angle, yea that would seal the deal. Honestly, just a steady 15-17 foot mid-range shot. I'd rather him take those over and over than threes.
Literally, his little jump-hook is a perfect base shot to start from.
"Wes, Hill, Ibaka, Allen, Nwora, Brook, Pat, Ingles, Khris are all slow-mo, injury prone ... a sandcastle waiting for playoff wave to get wrecked. A castle with no long-range archers... is destined to fall. That is all I have to say."-- FOTIS
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Imagine if giannis abandoned that 3pt shot and just developed post moves. he's already got decent touch from mid range
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Kidd would have curb stomped him.
Maybe if his name was Denise instead of Dennis.
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CharityStripe34 wrote:jmart762 wrote:If Giannis adds the Tim Duncan leftside, midrange bankshot he'll be unguardable. I think that's doable given the rest of his game.
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From either angle, yea that would seal the deal. Honestly, just a steady 15-17 foot mid-range shot. I'd rather him take those over and over than threes.
Literally, his little jump-hook is a perfect base shot to start from.
I’m curious to know his shooting percentage on jumpers inside the three point line this last series and this postseason. It feels like he’s been near automatic. Like Bubble Bam level.
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JimmyTheKid wrote:
What a **** clown. "So many holes" = he can't shoot three currently and is a poor FT shooter.
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Even funnier Stephen Jackson thinks Khris Middleton is now the Bucks best player.
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"Wes, Hill, Ibaka, Allen, Nwora, Brook, Pat, Ingles, Khris are all slow-mo, injury prone ... a sandcastle waiting for playoff wave to get wrecked. A castle with no long-range archers... is destined to fall. That is all I have to say."-- FOTIS
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Kate Fagan is a former ESPN writer and used to be a talking head on these shows and she's told a story about one of her first times on Around the Horn she saw that they were going to talk about some NHL game. And not only had she not watched that particular NHL game, she had never watched any NHL game. There is absolutely skill that comes with doing TV. But once you're able to do that being able to give 1-2 minutes of pretty facile analysis is pretty easy and certainly doesn't require a person to have a deep reservoir of knowledge, it doesn't even require a person to have watched the sporting event they're talking about.
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If Giannis wins a championship in the next 3-4 weeks, he'll have accomplished more, and at a younger age, than Lebron without feeling the need to quit and go join a super-team. It's pretty hilarious how easy it is to flip these dumb narratives when you actually let these guys' careers play out, and don't try and crucify them for not winning rings before their 25th birthdays when basically no one outside of Kareem, Duncan, and Bill Russell have ever done it as the franchise guy.
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You know, the older I get (I'm 40, for the record), the less these narratives matter to me. I remember the days when I would check ESPN's power rankings first thing every Monday morning or stay up late after a big Bucks' win-all in some vain attempt to get the slightest bit of adulation from the national media.
But it's the members of this national media who have been exposed as the total frauds they are. As many of you have pointed out, they don't know anything about the teams from the far unlit unknown and only focus on the lowest of the low hanging fruit on the teams from the bright lights of the major media markets. Their absolute disdain for us and the communities we call home has long been known (and now recently broadcast for the world to see on ESPN), so who gives a s*** if one of these boobs think Giannis has too many holes in his game or whatever the scorching hot take du jour is.
I know what I see and what I see is a once-in-a-generation talent who does a few mind-boggling things every game, all while going balls to the wall to ensure he gets better and our team wins. If the brainless idiots from ESPN or some f***ing no-name podcast cannot see that, then it's their loss.
But it's the members of this national media who have been exposed as the total frauds they are. As many of you have pointed out, they don't know anything about the teams from the far unlit unknown and only focus on the lowest of the low hanging fruit on the teams from the bright lights of the major media markets. Their absolute disdain for us and the communities we call home has long been known (and now recently broadcast for the world to see on ESPN), so who gives a s*** if one of these boobs think Giannis has too many holes in his game or whatever the scorching hot take du jour is.
I know what I see and what I see is a once-in-a-generation talent who does a few mind-boggling things every game, all while going balls to the wall to ensure he gets better and our team wins. If the brainless idiots from ESPN or some f***ing no-name podcast cannot see that, then it's their loss.
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Big Dog Yank wrote:You know, the older I get (I'm 40, for the record), the less these narratives matter to me. I remember the days when I would check ESPN's power rankings first thing every Monday morning or stay up late after a big Bucks' win-all in some vain attempt to get the slightest bit of adulation from the national media.
But it's the members of this national media who have been exposed as the total frauds they are. As many of you have pointed out, they don't know anything about the teams from the far unlit unknown and only focus on the lowest of the low hanging fruit on the teams from the bright lights of the major media markets. Their absolute disdain for us and the communities we call home has long been known (and now recently broadcast for the world to see on ESPN), so who gives a s*** if one of these boobs think Giannis has too many holes in his game or whatever the scorching hot take du jour is.
I know what I see and what I see is a once-in-a-generation talent who does a few mind-boggling things every game, all while going balls to the wall to ensure he gets better and our team wins. If the brainless idiots from ESPN or some f***ing no-name podcast cannot see that, then it's their loss.
I agree, and I’ll take it a step further. I actually prefer a novel or a band that not everyone is familiar with to something mainstream. So getting to watch Giannis charge forward towards top 20 all time status.. without casuals really recognizing his uniqueness, is actually a greater joy than say, IPA drinking Brooklyn hipsters enjoying an artisan taco while cheering on three overexposed and annoyingly hyped max guys as espn chronicles every misstep and loss. I love Giannis, I love being under the radar, I don’t need the adulation of Skip Bayless or Steven Smith to enjoy this or recognize how special it is.











