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Re: Trade Thread 2021-22: To Trade Or Trade Not 

Post#1941 » by Asian Celtic » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:20 am

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GregB wrote:
The difference I hope in Brad is that he will try but will be quick to change gears if it isn’t there. I expect Rob and or Tristan will definitely be moved.


I really don't get the interest on this board in seeing Rob traded at this point.


This board wants to trade everyone. Tatum is the only one not constantly showing up in trade discussions.


You should look at it like "This board wants to improve and get over the ECF hump"
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Post#1942 » by jfs1000d » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:37 am

Asian Celtic wrote:
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GregB wrote:
The difference I hope in Brad is that he will try but will be quick to change gears if it isn’t there. I expect Rob and or Tristan will definitely be moved.


I really don't get the interest on this board in seeing Rob traded at this point.


He's uber talented but comes at the health risk. As you can see these playoffs that health is better than talent, so I won't be mad if Rob is gonna be traded for a healthier and better fit guy.

I think Tristan is the odd man out. Horford Rob are both 20 minutes players. Tristan is good, beast on the glass, but Boston really did well with Williams as a passer this year. Horford is excellent too, and having two skilled 5s is what stevens wants.

Rob can move the ball and is a lob threat. Horford moves the ball and a stretch 5. Both are good defensively.


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Post#1943 » by jfs1000d » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:37 am

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I really don't get the interest on this board in seeing Rob traded at this point.


He's uber talented but comes at the health risk. As you can see these playoffs that health is better than talent, so I won't be mad if Rob is gonna be traded for a healthier and better fit guy.

I think Tristan is the odd man out. Horford Rob are both 20 minutes players. Tristan is good, beast on the glass, but Boston really did well with Williams as a passer this year. Horford is excellent too, and having two skilled 5s is what stevens wants.

Rob can move the ball and is a lob threat. Horford moves the ball and a stretch 5. Both are good defensively.


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Tristan plus for a point guard. Maybe to Nets for dinwidde or out to la. No idea.


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Post#1944 » by moonie_mcgee » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:59 am

Poking around a list of NBA PFs to pair with Moses Tatum an Brown. The Grizz have a few we can poach. I'd offer TL Romey and something else for Jaren Jackson Jr. I'm getting a bad feeling we're running with Fournier Brown and Tatum plus a point and a center. I'm not as smart as you guys but that's same old same old to me.
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Post#1945 » by snowman » Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:15 am

moonie_mcgee wrote:Poking around a list of NBA PFs to pair with Moses Tatum an Brown. The Grizz have a few we can poach. I'd offer TL Romey and something else for Jaren Jackson Jr. I'm getting a bad feeling we're running with Fournier Brown and Tatum plus a point and a center. I'm not as smart as you guys but that's same old same old to me.


Fournier, Brown and Tatum with a point and center will not be the same old same old if the point and center are not Kemba and Thompson. Changing that out to be Smart and Rob or Horford or Holy Moses and it's a completely different ball game, for the better. No defensive liability in a 6'0 PG that can only hope to draw charges as his only means of defense. Now our PG will be a former all defense team member. Also, we also wont have a good rebounding but poor few throw shooting big offensive black hole in the middle. W also won't have a lead footed big on defensive getting blown by or shot over the top in every pick and roll.
Instead, we will have a full season either Rob blocking shots and throwing down slams, or Horford being a 3 pt threat and also drawing the other teams big out of the lane for Tatum, Brown and Fournier and even Smart to work. Or having another 7'2 shot blocking, ally opp specialist in M. Brown running the floor. Major differences there.
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Post#1946 » by moonie_mcgee » Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:16 am

I'd also target a Christian Wood type player. IMO surrounding Tatum with young athletic players like Moses Brown and C Wood would make his life on the floor easier. Shooting with size no.
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Post#1947 » by moonie_mcgee » Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:26 am

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moonie_mcgee wrote:Poking around a list of NBA PFs to pair with Moses Tatum an Brown. The Grizz have a few we can poach. I'd offer TL Romey and something else for Jaren Jackson Jr. I'm getting a bad feeling we're running with Fournier Brown and Tatum plus a point and a center. I'm not as smart as you guys but that's same old same old to me.


Fournier, Brown and Tatum with a point and center will not be the same old same old if the point and center are not Kemba and Thompson. Changing that out to be Smart and Rob or Horford or Holy Moses and it's a completely different ball game, for the better. No defensive liability in a 6'0 PG that can only hope to draw charges as his only means of defense. Now our PG will be a former all defense team member. Also, we also wont have a good rebounding but poor few throw shooting big offensive black hole in the middle. W also won't have a lead footed big on defensive getting blown by or shot over the top in every pick and roll.
Instead, we will have a full season either Rob blocking shots and throwing down slams, or Horford being a 3 pt threat and also drawing the other teams big out of the lane for Tatum, Brown and Fournier and even Smart to work. Or having another 7'2 shot blocking, ally opp specialist in M. Brown running the floor. Major differences there.


I love it ya but Fournier can't guard 2 guards, he'd be falling over backwards. Great off the bench but starting? RWill3 can't be relied on at all. We'd be foolish to expect anything more than what we've gotten from him. Horford may be an answer alongside Moses offensively but defensively he may get abused on the perimeter. I agree about Kemba and TT but why stop there. Keep the upgrades coming no?
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Post#1948 » by moonie_mcgee » Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:38 am

Asian Celtic wrote:
Zeroforwinger wrote:
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I really don't get the interest on this board in seeing Rob traded at this point.


This board wants to trade everyone. Tatum is the only one not constantly showing up in trade discussions.


You should look at it like "This board wants to improve and get over the ECF hump"


I totally agree. If we're going the Horford Timelord Fournier direction, we're not being imaginative enough. The Suns are on track for the Finals and the Celts were in the play in series. Maybe a new approach?
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Post#1949 » by JediMasterRevan » Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:40 am

Thompson and grant to lakers seem like too much sense not to make.

Kuzma can be a good reclamation piece but i think he is sent to a 3rd team.

Kuzma to chicago for satoransky plus something
Kuzma, edwarda and timelord for bridges and 11
Kuzma and romeo for murray (sas) or white (sas)
Kuzma and romeo Orlando for ross and a first?




Maybe thompson and parker to lakers

Kuzma, timelord and romeo to sacramento

Bagley, wright and pick 9 to boston

Smart/pritchard/yam
Fournier/wright
Brown/nesmith
Tatum/bagley/parker
Horford/moses/kornet

Pick 9
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Post#1950 » by moonie_mcgee » Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:59 am

JediMasterRevan wrote:Thompson and grant to lakers seem like too much sense not to make.

Kuzma can be a good reclamation piece but i think he is sent to a 3rd team.

Kuzma to chicago for satoransky plus something
Kuzma, edwarda and timelord for bridges and 11
Kuzma and romeo for murray (sas) or white (sas)
Kuzma and romeo Orlando for ross and a first?




Maybe thompson and parker to lakers

Kuzma, timelord and romeo to sacramento

Bagley, wright and pick 9 to boston

Smart/pritchard/yam
Fournier/wright
Brown/nesmith
Tatum/bagley/parker
Horford/moses/kornet

Pick 9
Tpes
Mle


Love the Bagley pick up.
Moving the right players.
Love the assets and flexability.
Starting lineup is too ligh and soft but I like the bench somewhat. It's a start right but with a new coach it may move the needle.
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Post#1951 » by TommyPointGawd » Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:35 am

Remember when people on this board wanted to trade some of our key guys for Ben Simmons? I do.
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Post#1952 » by GoGreen » Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:38 am

moonie_mcgee wrote:
GoGreen wrote:Really have never been a big Marcus fan, but I also don't think this team will get much better than him at PG. Just don't have the assets. May as well start him imo, and try to trade for a backup 4.


Why not get a starting 4. I'm not sure we're winning a title with Tatum at the 4. Let JT defend the 3s and get a bigger defender, rebounder and shooter between him and our centers.


I'd love that but not much out there, and not much this team can give up either
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Post#1953 » by moonie_mcgee » Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:50 am

The Smart Fournier Brown Tatum Horford lineup is a Stevens lineup and it gonna fail. Horford is a PF who moved up a weight class due to his age. He doesn't match up with the 7 foot centers. Moses Brown does. Start Brown and have Horford off the bench. Fournier can't guard 2 guards. He doesn't have the feet. Brown does. Start Brown there and have Fournier off the bench. The above lineup is same old same old Stevens. A dead-end path.
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Post#1954 » by Asian Celtic » Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:55 am

Lmao, after that playoff showing i'm legit sold that Ben Simmons is a mental midget. Don't want him in our Celtics.
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Post#1955 » by themoneyteam2 » Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:25 am

Throwback to when actual posters said they’d trade Brown for Simmons lol.

If I were a GM, you’d have to give ME a first to take on Simmons and his contract. Sorry.
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Post#1956 » by Ed Pinkney » Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:29 am

Simmons away from Embiid with a roster better suited to take advantage of his skillset is still a really, really good basketball player.

I would have no problem with the Celtics seeing what a core of Tatum, Brown and Simmons could do. Don't know if the salaries would be able to work as Simmons makes a lot.
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Post#1957 » by Floody100 » Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:30 am

Simmons might be more talented than Brown but Jaylen’s mentality is on a whole other level.
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Post#1958 » by illmatic24 » Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:52 am

I like the idea of trying to get one of the Spurs point guards but I don’t know if they’ll be a great fit. I think they need someone who will be a little more pass first. But they’re young and can help with the scoring load and would be a decent option if one of them is available. I doubt it though.
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Post#1959 » by CelticFaninLBC » Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:53 am

JediMasterRevan wrote:Thompson and grant to lakers seem like too much sense not to make.

Kuzma can be a good reclamation piece but i think he is sent to a 3rd team.

Kuzma to chicago for satoransky plus something
Kuzma, edwarda and timelord for bridges and 11
Kuzma and romeo for murray (sas) or white (sas)
Kuzma and romeo Orlando for ross and a first?




Maybe thompson and parker to lakers

Kuzma, timelord and romeo to sacramento

Bagley, wright and pick 9 to boston

Smart/pritchard/yam
Fournier/wright
Brown/nesmith
Tatum/bagley/parker
Horford/moses/kornet

Pick 9
Tpes
Mle


They might need to add another asset to get Bagley in that deal, but if the goals is to clear cap room for Beal, then they need to move Rob Williams and Smart. This is a good start.
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Post#1960 » by Asian Celtic » Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:19 am

Ed Pinkney wrote:Simmons away from Embiid with a roster better suited to take advantage of his skillset is still a really, really good basketball player.

I would have no problem with the Celtics seeing what a core of Tatum, Brown and Simmons could do. Don't know if the salaries would be able to work as Simmons makes a lot.


So you think a trio core of Tatum, Brown and Simmons interests you given that they're gonna be 3 max guys, then we'd be left with cheap ass roleplayers. By default we would play 4 vs 5 on offense where Tatum gets double teamed everytime and you wanna tie 30m+ in capspace for a useless mental midget?

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