CJ TRADE IDEAS

[GEE]

Suppose Olshey is willing to listen to a CJ trade... What might one look like? What is realistic value for him? I was thinking it was a bit soon to start this discussion, but the C's already dropped the first big trade of the offseason. Kemba's value is also interesting to look at as a possible gauge into CJ's. I also wonder how Little will fit into all of this, as I think he is a riser, and potentially good enough to fill some minutes at multiple positions including the 2. There's also Jones Jr who Olshey said can play some 2.

So what would be doable, either by himself (preferably I think), or packaged with another player? What team is looking for a 6'3 borderline All-Star SG that might be able to carry a teams PG duties? Any ideas?

[Matt800]

if PHI loses to the Hawks maybe Tobias Harris or Ben Simmons. They seem like the best options that are even remotely realistic.

There's Derozan or Hayward but I don't think they are upgrades.

Jimmy Butler or Khris Middleton would be great but doesn't seem like either would be realistic.

[Wickzki]

Ben Simmons for CJ is a wet dream for me personally for obvious reasons (Australian). But it goes further and I'll explain: I grew up in the peak of the Melbourne basketball era. My two, much older, step-brothers grew up being coached by Lindsay Gaze (basketball Hall of Famer, also Andrew's father) so I was able to form a friendship there. Lindsay coached the Melbourne Tigers years later where he coached Dave Simmons (Ben's father). So for Ben to be a Blazer would be surreal.

But I do believe that it benefits both teams.

Dame is the type of lead guard who would enable Ben to play his ideal role.

CJ would open things right up for the Sixers with the PnR with Embiid.

[GEE]

Ben Simmons for CJ is a wet dream for me personally for obvious reasons (Australian). But it goes further and I'll explain: I grew up in the peak of the Melbourne basketball era. My two, much older, step-brothers grew up being coached by Lindsay Gaze (basketball Hall of Famer, also Andrew's father) so I was able to form a friendship there. Lindsay coached the Melbourne Tigers years later where he coached Dave Simmons (Ben's father). So for Ben to be a Blazer would be surreal.

But I do believe that it benefits both teams.

Dame is the type of lead guard who would enable Ben to play his ideal role.

CJ would open things right up for the Sixers with the PnR with Embiid.

Ben Simmons would be at or near the top of my list of realistic targets as well, for the very reasons you state. His IQ is quite high, and I think it would be a beautiful pairing with Dame as they compliment each others' games. I trust his shooting can get at least marginally better, but he is great at other facets of the game where Dame's game lacks: mainly defense and ball movement. He also plays with a bit of nasty, which I hate to see as an opponent, but would really like to have on OUR team. We should be top 5 in defense with a lineup of Dame, Simmons, ROCO, Collins & Nurkic. Simons, Powell, Jones Jr, Little and Giles would be a really really exciting 10 players to start with... guess cj makes 11.

Rooting today for the folks in the ATL. GO HAWKS!!!

[ProcessDoctor]

Sixers fan in peace here. If I’m Morey, I do everything to pry Dame away from you guys. IF that doesn’t work, I’m all for acquiring CJ.

Simmons + Hill for McCollum + Covington + 2023 FRP + 2025 FRP

[Dame Lizard]

Welcome aboard. I think a trade could be worked out here. I'd need to drop one of the 1st round picks though. Either that or drop RoCo and replace with DJJ.

I know Simmons has more 'star' calibre, but he's also a guy who is unplayable in certain parts of the game and is earning 33-40M for the rest of his contract.

For what it's worth, I think Philly and Milwaukee are the best destinations for CJ. Ironically though I'd be wanting to pair up Simmons and CJ as the backcourt if I were Philly - they'd be a perfect complement.

Tobias for CJ a year ago made perfect sense for both teams imo. However Tobias has had a good playoff run, and Seth has stepped up big time, so it may not be wanted from Philly's end anymore.

[RTG HD]

Sixers fan in peace here. If I’m Morey, I do everything to pry Dame away from you guys. IF that doesn’t work, I’m all for acquiring CJ.

Simmons + Hill for McCollum + Covington + 2023 FRP + 2025 FRP

I think you are on the right track. I would love Simmons to play along side Dame but understand the price will have to be painful.

[The Sebastian Express]

Sixers fan in peace here. If I’m Morey, I do everything to pry Dame away from you guys. IF that doesn’t work, I’m all for acquiring CJ.

Simmons + Hill for McCollum + Covington + 2023 FRP + 2025 FRP

Considering how long Ben is locked up and how he could be our Draymond here, I'd do it. 2025 is when his contract runs out anyways so if it all went to hell and he left and Dame retired or wanted to leave, we'd have our 2026 pick.

I'd love to try to keep Covington, but.

[Napoleon7]

Sixers fan in peace here. If I’m Morey, I do everything to pry Dame away from you guys. IF that doesn’t work, I’m all for acquiring CJ.

Simmons + Hill for McCollum + Covington + 2023 FRP + 2025 FRP

I think you’re close on value here. I for one would rather look to keep RoCo.

My counter would be if insistent on 2 first round pics then swap out RoCo for DJJ…
or
If insistent on keeping RoCo in the trade then remove a first…

Prefer the first.


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[Sinobas]

The Knicks could absorb his salary. We could do something like CJ for Randal, which would clear cap space so we can retain NP and let him start at SG, where he's be a much better fit next to Dame than CJ.


It also gives us a decent pair of starting forwards, Randal and Covington.
then we have a decent pair of forwards in Covington/Randal.

[Dame Lizard]

The Knicks could absorb his salary. We could do something like CJ for Randal, which would clear cap space so we can retain NP and let him start at SG, where he's be a much better fit next to Dame than CJ.


It also gives us a decent pair of starting forwards, Randal and Covington.
then we have a decent pair of forwards in Covington/Randal.

After the season NYK have had, they are not trading Randle for CJ.

Randle made all NBA second team (probably didn't quite deserve it, but he had an amazing season and led NYK to the 4th seed when they were a prime wooden spoon candidate).

[GEE]

Sixers fan in peace here. If I’m Morey, I do everything to pry Dame away from you guys. IF that doesn’t work, I’m all for acquiring CJ.

Simmons + Hill for McCollum + Covington + 2023 FRP + 2025 FRP

This is something that I'd expect to actually get initially offered by Philly. I'd rather keep it simple if possible, as I think it would be better for both teams.

Simmons or Harris <<for>> CJ + FRP... Pretty Please.

Hill/CJ/Curry is pretty solid I think, or maybe they could flip Curry and Hill for Kemba. IDK, but I would think Philly would want to keep Hill, and Portland definitely wants to keep ROCO.

[d-train]

Speaking of detrimental roster churn, what about those Celtics. Since the Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen trades, Danny Ainge has been a disaster. It would be worse if not for the incompetence of Nets and Sixers. Blazers benefited from the incompetence of Nets too, but Blazers held their gains. Celtics pretty much squandered their once promising position. Same with Sixers, they had years to leverage the advantage of having Embiid and Simmons on cheap rookie contracts. They ended up with Harris, Curry, and lost a bunch draft picks.

Opportunities to improve don't come often. Mavericks where in great position after getting Doncic on a rookie contract. But, they blew most of their advantage by investing in Porzingis.
Blazers had a big advantage in 2015, but the cap room was worthless when we couldn't even retain our own free agent. The difference is, Blazers did everything right to position themselves to cash in on their advantage. But, Blazers didn't control Aldridge's decision to pass on making substantially more money by staying with Blazers.

[d-train]

Sixers fan in peace here. If I’m Morey, I do everything to pry Dame away from you guys. IF that doesn’t work, I’m all for acquiring CJ.

Simmons + Hill for McCollum + Covington + 2023 FRP + 2025 FRP

CJ and Covington aren't available. Simmons is attractive, but we are better off keeping CJ and you are better if you can get him. You would have to get good draft picks to add with Simmons to get CJ. Sixers need to add value, not Blazers. More realistic is Powell and Covington for Simmons. Sixers don't have the assets to get one of Blazers core players, assuming Embiid is off the table.

[Sinobas]

Sixers fan in peace here. If I’m Morey, I do everything to pry Dame away from you guys. IF that doesn’t work, I’m all for acquiring CJ.

Simmons + Hill for McCollum + Covington + 2023 FRP + 2025 FRP

CJ and Covington aren't available. Simmons is attractive, but we are better off keeping CJ and you are better if you can get him. You would have to get good draft picks to add with Simmons to get CJ. Sixers need to add value, not Blazers. More realistic is Powell and Covington for Simmons. Sixers don't have the assets to get one of Blazers core players, assuming Embiid is off the table.

How do you know they are unavailable? I'd be surprised if the Blazers were not looking to trace CJ.

[JRoy]

Sixers fan in peace here. If I’m Morey, I do everything to pry Dame away from you guys. IF that doesn’t work, I’m all for acquiring CJ.

Simmons + Hill for McCollum + Covington + 2023 FRP + 2025 FRP

I think you are on the right track. I would love Simmons to play along side Dame but understand the price will have to be painful.

This is close enough to get down to the nitty gritty

[trix17]

Sixers fan in peace here. If I’m Morey, I do everything to pry Dame away from you guys. IF that doesn’t work, I’m all for acquiring CJ.

Simmons + Hill for McCollum + Covington + 2023 FRP + 2025 FRP

CJ and Covington aren't available. Simmons is attractive, but we are better off keeping CJ and you are better if you can get him. You would have to get good draft picks to add with Simmons to get CJ. Sixers need to add value, not Blazers. More realistic is Powell and Covington for Simmons. Sixers don't have the assets to get one of Blazers core players, assuming Embiid is off the table.

How do you know they are unavailable? I'd be surprised if the Blazers were not looking to trace CJ.

Because dumb **** Olshey said none of Dame, CJ, Nurk or Cov would be moved.

[Khazim]

CJ and Covington aren't available. Simmons is attractive, but we are better off keeping CJ and you are better if you can get him. You would have to get good draft picks to add with Simmons to get CJ. Sixers need to add value, not Blazers. More realistic is Powell and Covington for Simmons. Sixers don't have the assets to get one of Blazers core players, assuming Embiid is off the table.

How do you know they are unavailable? I'd be surprised if the Blazers were not looking to trace CJ.

Because dumb **** Olshey said none of Dame, CJ, Nurk or Cov would be moved.

I think you misheard there, sport. And even if you didn't mishear, you heard public facing information, which essentially means squat in this context.

[DusterBuster]

Sixers fan in peace here. If I’m Morey, I do everything to pry Dame away from you guys. IF that doesn’t work, I’m all for acquiring CJ.

Simmons + Hill for McCollum + Covington + 2023 FRP + 2025 FRP

Those FRPs are deal killers imo. I don’t think Simmons has that much more value over CJ at this point, not after that series he just had.

I would do CJ for Simmons straight up, but nothing else from either side (aside from maybe some ancillary pieces for salary matching if needed).

[Waynearchetype]

I was really excited about this even being in the realm of possibility last week, but now I'm not so sure. A busted shot is one thing, a busted shot and obvious anxiety issues are another. I think at that point you're looking at a 1 to 1 swap.