Who will the Knicks Target? Here's a List of REALISTIC Players

[N8isScofield]

I'm curious why people love Zion so much when you have to play him at point guard to be useful.

You think Randle was exposed in the playoffs. Zion has not jump shot and clogs the paint.

Wait till he faces a playoff wall without shooters if he can get there.

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Except that you don't. SVG is a dinosaur with a prehistoric offense. Yeah, Zion isn't the best shooter in year 2 but unlike Randle, he can get to any spot he wants at will. Pair him with a PG who can shoot and you have lethal P&R combo. You're either giving up open threes or he's dunking on you. If his shot develops, it's over. He can pose so many matchup problems without a reliable shot now. Every GM in the league, including ours would prefer Zion to Randle.

Zion at the four clogged the offence. That's why he was moved to point. And that is not a dinosaur move.

He has to be your 5 or you have problems. He doesn't rebound a lot. And he doesn't really win.

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He's played like 100 games and you've decided whether he wins or not? What does he have there other than Ingram that he should be winning with? Lonzo? AD didn't do any winning there either.

[Marty McFly]

I want the Knicks to acquire more draft capital just in case **** really does hit the fan in NO or Dal. not expecting it but...

Charlotte currently has 11 and some think Ball needs a lob threat.

[Infinitimind]

I'm seeing Lonzo rumors on social media. Anyone else have this?

According to a source, the New York Knicks and point guard Lonzo Ball have a mutual interest in reaching an agreement. The source also said that the Knicks are not intimated by the fact that Ball is a restricted free agent.

Ball, 23, is coming off one of the best seasons of his young career.

He averaged 14.6 points, 4.8 rebounds, 5.7 assists and 1.5 steals for the New Orleans Pelicans in the 2020-21 regular season. He shot the ball at a 41.4 percent clip from the field and a 37.8 percent clip from deep.

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He is so overated and we going to max him out. Rather try to sign lavine next year

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I'm seeing Lonzo rumors on social media. Anyone else have this?

According to a source, the New York Knicks and point guard Lonzo Ball have a mutual interest in reaching an agreement. The source also said that the Knicks are not intimated by the fact that Ball is a restricted free agent.

Ball, 23, is coming off one of the best seasons of his young career.

He averaged 14.6 points, 4.8 rebounds, 5.7 assists and 1.5 steals for the New Orleans Pelicans in the 2020-21 regular season. He shot the ball at a 41.4 percent clip from the field and a 37.8 percent clip from deep.

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He is so overated and we going to max him out. Rather try to sign lavine next year

Signing Lonzo gives us a path to starting IQ, not sure why some of you just don't see it.

[prophet_of_rage]

Except that you don't. SVG is a dinosaur with a prehistoric offense. Yeah, Zion isn't the best shooter in year 2 but unlike Randle, he can get to any spot he wants at will. Pair him with a PG who can shoot and you have lethal P&R combo. You're either giving up open threes or he's dunking on you. If his shot develops, it's over. He can pose so many matchup problems without a reliable shot now. Every GM in the league, including ours would prefer Zion to Randle.

Zion at the four clogged the offence. That's why he was moved to point. And that is not a dinosaur move.

He has to be your 5 or you have problems. He doesn't rebound a lot. And he doesn't really win.

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He's played like 100 games and you've decided whether he wins or not? What does he have there other than Ingram that he should be winning with? Lonzo? AD didn't do any winning there either.

He, Ingram, Ball and Hart are a fine nucleus. He should at least be able to get to the play in game.

I just don't get the Julius hate and Zion love. Zion is the more athletic but less skilled version.

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[Riot Randolph]

I'm seeing Lonzo rumors on social media. Anyone else have this?

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He is so overated and we going to max him out. Rather try to sign lavine next year

Signing Lonzo gives us a path to starting IQ, not sure why some of you just don't see it.

and that defense with an elite pg defender ...

[Riot Randolph]

I wonder who will be the oddman out in ATL they can't have Hunter Heurter and Reddish...

[prophet_of_rage]

I wonder who will be the oddman out in ATL they can't have Hunter Heurter and Reddish...

Probably Reddish. Whoever is least effective.

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[HarthorneWingo]

I wonder who will be the oddman out in ATL they can't have Hunter Heurter and Reddish...

Probably Reddish. Whoever is least effective.

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Hunter has been injured a lot. I don't know the type of extent but he seems to be in and out of the lineup.

[HarthorneWingo]

I'm seeing Lonzo rumors on social media. Anyone else have this?

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He is so overated and we going to max him out. Rather try to sign lavine next year

Signing Lonzo gives us a path to starting IQ, not sure why some of you just don't see it.

I don't see IQ as a starting PG. He gets tangled up in the lane easily and is just bad at finishing through traffic to get at the rim. Yeah, those floaters can be deadly as well as those 3s. I don't think investing close to $200M on Lonzo is a wise move.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

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He is so overated and we going to max him out. Rather try to sign lavine next year

Signing Lonzo gives us a path to starting IQ, not sure why some of you just don't see it.

I don't see IQ as a starting PG. He gets tangled up in the lane easily and is just bad at finishing through traffic to get at the rim. Yeah, those floaters can be deadly as well as those 3s. I don't think investing close to $200M on Lonzo is a wise move.

He wouldn't be starting at PG, he'd be starting at SG, like the Hornets do with LaMelo and Rozier. You put a big PG next to a combo guard and the combo guard can do what they do best which is just score.

[N8isScofield]

Zion at the four clogged the offence. That's why he was moved to point. And that is not a dinosaur move.

He has to be your 5 or you have problems. He doesn't rebound a lot. And he doesn't really win.

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He's played like 100 games and you've decided whether he wins or not? What does he have there other than Ingram that he should be winning with? Lonzo? AD didn't do any winning there either.

He, Ingram, Ball and Hart are a fine nucleus. He should at least be able to get to the play in game.

I just don't get the Julius hate and Zion love. Zion is the more athletic but less skilled version.

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He's played not even a season and a half of basketball and he should have gotten to the play in game but our guy in year 7 can put up some of the worst shooting numbers in the history of the NBA, leading to us being embarrassed in a playoff series and it's cool? Zion with allegedly less skills puts up better efficiency numbers than Randle. Randle isn't exactly Kyrie skillwise out there by the way. He can't go right, can't finish over contact, can't create space either with or off the ball and his go to move is a god awful fall away that he doesn't have the lift to hit with any real efficiency. There's an infinitely greater chance of Zion's skill level improving enough to maximize his insane physical gifts than Randle's skills improving enough to mask his lack of them, especially given where they are in their careers.

[WargamesX]

He's played like 100 games and you've decided whether he wins or not? What does he have there other than Ingram that he should be winning with? Lonzo? AD didn't do any winning there either.

He, Ingram, Ball and Hart are a fine nucleus. He should at least be able to get to the play in game.

I just don't get the Julius hate and Zion love. Zion is the more athletic but less skilled version.

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He's played not even a season and a half of basketball and he should have gotten to the play in game but our guy in year 7 can put up some of the worst shooting numbers in the history of the NBA, leading to us being embarrassed in a playoff series and it's cool? Zion with allegedly less skills puts up better efficiency numbers than Randle. Randle isn't exactly Kyrie skillwise out there by the way. He can't go right, can't finish over contact, can't create space either with or off the ball and his go to move is a god awful fall away that he doesn't have the lift to hit with any real efficiency. There's an infinitely greater chance of Zion's skill level improving enough to maximize his insane physical gifts than Randle's skills improving enough to mask his lack of them, especially given where they are in their careers.

This isn’t the thread for that……. The Randle and RJ is flawed thread is for that.

Anyhow he isn’t crap he is a 2b player. Knicks need to get a 1A on a deal or we are getting better.

[Adelheid]

Dinwiddie decline PO, does the Knicks go after him?

[GettinitDone]

If Sixers say we can have Ben for Julius, would you do it?

Both playoffs duds.

I'd be tempted.

[DaGawd]

If Sixers say we can have Ben for Julius, would you do it?

Both playoffs duds.

I'd be tempted.

Hell Fkin no.. Ben cost way too much for his actual production

[Knicks1992]

Signing Lonzo gives us a path to starting IQ, not sure why some of you just don't see it.

I don't see IQ as a starting PG. He gets tangled up in the lane easily and is just bad at finishing through traffic to get at the rim. Yeah, those floaters can be deadly as well as those 3s. I don't think investing close to $200M on Lonzo is a wise move.

He wouldn't be starting at PG, he'd be starting at SG, like the Hornets do with LaMelo and Rozier. You put a big PG next to a combo guard and the combo guard can do what they do best which is just score.

Give me Powell or Rozier (if Charlotte is looking for lob/centers) over Ball. Plus Nunn.

[GettinitDone]

Dinwiddie decline PO, does the Knicks go after him?

I can see Sixers going for Dinwiddie

[br7knicks]

If Sixers say we can have Ben for Julius, would you do it?

Both playoffs duds.

I'd be tempted.

I would too, with Ben's great defense. Plus, Ben fits the age rebuild more than randle, even though it's just a few years.

But I think it's easier to build a team with randle versus Ben.

I'm not sure I'd pull the trigger unless I knew the Knicks were getting a stud scorer to come with Ben. Julius needs a floor general, shooting PG to help make a difference with him.

[moocow007]

If Sixers say we can have Ben for Julius, would you do it?

Both playoffs duds.

I'd be tempted.

The Knicks already struggle mightily to score as it is (that's what killed them against the Hawks) and you want to trade Randle for Ben Simmons? As awful as Randle was in the playoffs Ben Simmons struggles even in the regular season to score. Yes he can pass and defend but who's he going to pass to that Julius Randle failed to pass to? And this team already defends so that's not their weakness.