2021 Combine Thread

Hal14 · Post #61 » by **Hal14** » Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:34 pm

Maybe a stupid question, but are these "in socks" measurements going to be their official height? Or will their official height actually be barefoot...or in shoes?

Apparently, the amount of height added by the shoes varies quite a bit from player to player. Some players the shoes add 1 inch, but for some (like Prkacin) the shoes add 1.75 inches..

clyde21 · Post #62 » by **clyde21** » Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:13 pm

Hal14 wrote:Maybe a stupid question, but are these "in socks" measurements going to be their official height? Or will their official height actually be barefoot...or in shoes?

Apparently, the amount of height added by the shoes varies quite a bit from player to player. Some players the shoes add 1 inch, but for some (like Prkacin) the shoes add 1.75 inches..

always assume +1.5 inches with shoes which are the officials

Hal14 · Post #63 » by **Hal14** » Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:20 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Maybe a stupid question, but are these "in socks" measurements going to be their official height? Or will their official height actually be barefoot...or in shoes?

Apparently, the amount of height added by the shoes varies quite a bit from player to player. Some players the shoes add 1 inch, but for some (like Prkacin) the shoes add 1.75 inches..

always assume +1.5 inches with shoes which are the officials

Oh, interesting..

This article says NBA officially listed heights are without shoes, a rule which was changed in 2019:

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/nets/ny-nba-player-true-heights-without-shoes-20191018-ctfvnt2rrjgipkhkoq2dbdfwya-story.html

Did the rule change more recently than 2019?

clyde21 · Post #64 » by **clyde21** » Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:22 pm

Read on Twitter

clyde21 · Post #65 » by **clyde21** » Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:24 pm

Thor making himself some $$$ today

WargamesX · Post #66 » by **WargamesX** » Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:55 pm

Hal14 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Maybe a stupid question, but are these "in socks" measurements going to be their official height? Or will their official height actually be barefoot...or in shoes?

Apparently, the amount of height added by the shoes varies quite a bit from player to player. Some players the shoes add 1 inch, but for some (like Prkacin) the shoes add 1.75 inches..

always assume +1.5 inches with shoes which are the officials

Oh, interesting..

This article says NBA officially listed heights are without shoes, a rule which was changed in 2019:

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/nets/ny-nba-player-true-heights-without-shoes-20191018-ctfvnt2rrjgipkhkoq2dbdfwya-story.html

Did the rule change more recently than 2019?

I could be wrong but it was because Buddy Hield was both older and shorter than the league thought he was. He didn’t lie to them either it was due to a misunderstanding and bad record keeping.

Hal14 · Post #67 » by **Hal14** » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:28 pm

clyde21 wrote:Thor making himself some $$$ today

How so?

He was previously listed as 6'10", 210 lbs.

Now he's listed at 6'9" and only 203 lbs..

How does that help him that he's smaller?

His wingspan at the combine is 7'3", but that is already the same wingspan that was being reported for him previously..

clyde21 · Post #68 » by **clyde21** » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:36 pm

Hal14 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:Thor making himself some $$$ today

How so?

He was previously listed as 6'10", 210 lbs.

Now he's listed at 6'9" and only 203 lbs..

How does that help him that he's smaller?

His wingspan at the combine is 7'3", but that is already the same wingspan that was being reported for him previously..

he's a legit 6-9 with big hands and the 3rd longest W/S and 5th long S/R out of anyone measured, and has been killing the shooting drills so far.

Charm · Post #69 » by **Charm** » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:36 pm

Especially after today's measurements, I'm confused as to why people have Kai Jones way above JT Thor on their big boards. They seem pretty interchangeable to me, and if anything I'd give the tiebreak to Thor as he's a little bit younger.

BostonCouchGM · Post #70 » by **BostonCouchGM** » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:37 pm

many of these heights are aided by 1-3 inches of hair. Barely any of these guys are their listed heights. They are extremely generous when measuring them.

EvanZ · Post #71 » by **EvanZ** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:17 am

clyde21 wrote:hopefully nothing serious for Butler, this is why he won't be participating in drills

Read on Twitter

It is serious. He has a heart condition that has been known for years.

clyde21 · Post #72 » by **clyde21** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:28 am

Read on Twitter

CptCrunch · Post #73 » by **CptCrunch** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:53 am

BostonCouchGM wrote:many of these heights are aided by 1-3 inches of hair. Barely any of these guys are their listed heights. They are extremely generous when measuring them.

Davion is tiny, not even 6 foot barefoot without hair. He has thick braided dreads that don't compress. I'm guessing he is 5'11" barefeet with a crew cut on the most generous day.

CP War Hawks · Post #74 » by **CP War Hawks** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:56 am

nicnac215 wrote:
clyde21 wrote::o

Read on Twitter

Same standing reach at AD. Future small ball center.

Liken him to Baby Giannis. GS would be foolish no to take the guy imo.

Hal14 · Post #75 » by **Hal14** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:12 am

CP War Hawks wrote:
nicnac215 wrote:
clyde21 wrote::o

Read on Twitter

Same standing reach at AD. Future small ball center.

Liken him to Baby Giannis. GS would be foolish no to take the guy imo.

Would it be crazy for Orlando to pick Barnes over Kuminga?

nicnac215 · Post #76 » by **nicnac215** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:17 am

Hal14 wrote:
CP War Hawks wrote:
nicnac215 wrote:Same standing reach at AD. Future small ball center.

Liken him to Baby Giannis. GS would be foolish no to take the guy imo.

Would it be crazy for Orlando to pick Barnes over Kuminga?

No workouts and interviews will be telling. I can see a top 4 team liking one of Barnes or Kuminga and wanting to trade down to 5 to draft them and acquire assets

God Squad · Post #77 » by **God Squad** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:31 am

clyde21 wrote:
nicnac215 wrote:
clyde21 wrote::o

Read on Twitter

Same standing reach at AD. Future small ball center.

don't see him dropping out of the top10 tbh

He's a match made in heaven for golden state. I just don't think he'll be available anymore.

clyde21 · Post #78 » by **clyde21** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:45 am

God Squad wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
nicnac215 wrote:Same standing reach at AD. Future small ball center.

don't see him dropping out of the top10 tbh

He's a match made in heaven for golden state. I just don't think he'll be available anymore.

personally I'd go Moody at 7 and Johnson or Butler at 14, but Barnes makes some sense too, in which case I'd take Springer or Keon at 14.

K_chile22 · Post #79 » by **K_chile22** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:00 am

So uh.. Do they count hair in height because if Cooper is 6'4 he's skyrocketing up my board

God Squad · Post #80 » by **God Squad** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:15 am

clyde21 wrote:
God Squad wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
don't see him dropping out of the top10 tbh

He's a match made in heaven for golden state. I just don't think he'll be available anymore.

personally I'd go Moody at 7 and Johnson or Butler at 14, but Barnes makes some sense too, in which case I'd take Springer or Keon at 14.

Moody is a solid pick for you guys. Fills a need and allows Klay to rehad at his pace, while allowing GSW to stay competitive. I guess I envision Barnes as new era Draymond. Barnes would get so many easy assists in transition with Curry/Klay. So your saying if they go with Moody at 7 you'd want Jalen Johnson or Butler at 14, and if they go Barnes, you'd want Springer or Keon at 14?