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Re: 2021 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#41 » by DayofMourning » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:20 am

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Cunningham, Bey, and Grant going to be nice


They got Stewart and Killian there as well. Regardless, they need to follow Josh Jackson's lead.

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Three out of the top four teams in the East is nice.

Detroit-Mobley fits them like a glove. Perfect fit. Can't see them taking anyone besides Cade though.
Houston-They win no matter who they pick out of the top four. Would go Mobley or Green if I were them.
Cavaliers-Really bad draw for them. I mean, they take the BPA regardless, but that player will create a logjam.
Toronto-Would expect this to be Suggs. Replaces Lowry in the lineup. Not bad.
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Post#42 » by DayofMourning » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:24 am

BenoUdrihFTL wrote:Lol @ the Blunder


A bit of karma? This is definitively a four man draft in my eyes. They are missing out big time.

And how about Orlando? Another stroke of bad luck. Some want to call it a five man draft at the top. I don't see that at all. Zero. Kuminga is woeful offensively. Super raw. I mean, convince me he's better than Precious...seriously.
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Re: 2021 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#43 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:28 am

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They got Stewart and Killian there as well. Regardless, they need to follow Josh Jackson's lead.

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Three out of the top four teams in the East is nice.

Detroit-Mobley fits them like a glove. Perfect fit. Can't see them taking anyone besides Cade though.
Houston-They win no matter who they pick out of the top four. Would go Mobley or Green if I were them.
Cavaliers-Really bad draw for them. I mean, they take the BPA regardless, but that player will create a logjam.
Toronto-Would expect this to be Suggs. Replaces Lowry in the lineup. Not bad.

Mobley to Houston for sure. Nice duo with Wood. Put him in Olajuwon camp.
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Re: 2021 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#44 » by AirP. » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:30 am

DayofMourning wrote:
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They got Stewart and Killian there as well. Regardless, they need to follow Josh Jackson's lead.

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Three out of the top four teams in the East is nice.

Detroit-Mobley fits them like a glove. Perfect fit. Can't see them taking anyone besides Cade though.
Houston-They win no matter who they pick out of the top four. Would go Mobley or Green if I were them.
Cavaliers-Really bad draw for them. I mean, they take the BPA regardless, but that player will create a logjam.
Toronto-Would expect this to be Suggs. Replaces Lowry in the lineup. Not bad.


Watch for OKC to figure out how to get to #1, this is why they've hoarded assets. In either a multiteam trade or multiple trades, OKC will figure out how to get to #3 and package that with other assets for the #1.
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Re: 2021 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#45 » by DayofMourning » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:32 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Mobley to Houston for sure. Nice duo with Wood. Put him in Olajuwon camp.


That's a really good pick for them. Very nice first draft following the loss of Harden. Could've lost the pick entirely.
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Re: 2021 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#46 » by BenoUdrihFTL » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:33 am

Also happy GSW's pick from MIN fell to 7 lol
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Post#47 » by DayofMourning » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:37 am

AirP. wrote:Watch for OKC to figure out how to get to #1, this is why they've hoarded assets. In either a multiteam trade or multiple trades, OKC will figure out how to get to #3 and package that with other assets for the #1.


Can't see it, AirP. Detroit has done a pretty good job at building a decent all around team so far. They now have the obvious choice to select a consensus number one player. Some would say a generational (not me, close though) talent. They can't pass that up.

I don't think a top four team will be that interested. Those guys seem pretty solid bets. OKC's guesswork in picks is a big gamble. Don't think it's going to pay off this year.
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Re: 2021 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#48 » by BenoUdrihFTL » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:40 am

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BenoUdrihFTL wrote:Lol @ the Blunder


A bit of karma? This is definitively a four man draft in my eyes. They are missing out big time.

And how about Orlando? Another stroke of bad luck. Some want to call it a five man draft at the top. I don't see that at all. Zero. Kuminga is woeful offensively. Super raw. I mean, convince me he's better than Precious...seriously.

The shambling from Blunder fans in the GB thread is pretty delicious, it's like they feel entitled to #1 when in reality they're lucky to even have a stolen pro sports franchise in that flyover wasteland LMAO
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Re: 2021 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#49 » by DayofMourning » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:43 am

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DayofMourning wrote:
BenoUdrihFTL wrote:Lol @ the Blunder


A bit of karma? This is definitively a four man draft in my eyes. They are missing out big time.

And how about Orlando? Another stroke of bad luck. Some want to call it a five man draft at the top. I don't see that at all. Zero. Kuminga is woeful offensively. Super raw. I mean, convince me he's better than Precious...seriously.

The shambling form Blunder fans in the GB thread is pretty delicious, it's like they feel entitled to #1 when in reality they're lucky to even have a stolen pro sports franchise in that flyover wasteland LMAO


I saw that one fella losing his chit. Dude was dropping F bombs on everyone. Lol.
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Re: 2021 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#50 » by Dr_Heat » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:44 am

Lifelong Pistons fan checking in. Oof
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Re: 2021 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#51 » by AirP. » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:45 am

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AirP. wrote:Watch for OKC to figure out how to get to #1, this is why they've hoarded assets. In either a multiteam trade or multiple trades, OKC will figure out how to get to #3 and package that with other assets for the #1.


Can't see it, AirP. Detroit has done a pretty good job at building a decent all around team so far. They now have the obvious choice to select a consensus number one player. Some would say a generational (not me, close though) talent. They can't pass that up.

I don't think a top four team will be that interested. Those guys seem pretty solid bets. OKC's guesswork in picks is a big gamble. Don't think it's going to pay off this year.

I don't know, I think this is where you overwhelm a team with picks. People talk about 4 1st rounders for a guy like Harden is a lot... OKC can easily do that and the 1st round picks will be of much better quality.

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Post#52 » by Dr_Heat » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:48 am

Herro and Duncan for that number 1 pick, come on Pistons let’s do it.
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Re: 2021 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#53 » by AirP. » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:52 am

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BenoUdrihFTL wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
A bit of karma? This is definitively a four man draft in my eyes. They are missing out big time.

And how about Orlando? Another stroke of bad luck. Some want to call it a five man draft at the top. I don't see that at all. Zero. Kuminga is woeful offensively. Super raw. I mean, convince me he's better than Precious...seriously.

The shambling form Blunder fans in the GB thread is pretty delicious, it's like they feel entitled to #1 when in reality they're lucky to even have a stolen pro sports franchise in that flyover wasteland LMAO


I saw that one fella losing his chit. Dude was dropping F bombs on everyone. Lol.

I'm so happy I'm teleworking and don't have to hear Thunder fans bitching about getting #6 tomorrow.
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Post#54 » by DayofMourning » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:53 am

AirP. wrote:I don't know, I think this is where you overwhelm a team with picks. People talk about 4 1st rounders for a guy like Harden is a lot... OKC can easily do that and the 1st round picks will be of much better quality.

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It may work out well for them moving forward, I just don't see any of the top four being enticed. For example, I legit like every one of this year's top four guys over any of the top guys last year. Just a much better group. Next year could be more of the same. The year after as well.

A bird in hand is worth two in the bush. Or 18 in the bush in this example.
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Post#55 » by AirP. » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:55 am

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AirP. wrote:I don't know, I think this is where you overwhelm a team with picks. People talk about 4 1st rounders for a guy like Harden is a lot... OKC can easily do that and the 1st round picks will be of much better quality.

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It may work out well for them moving forward, I just don't see any of the top four being enticed. For example, I legit like every one of this year's top four guys over any of the top guys last year. Just a much better group. Next year could be more of the same. The year after as well.

A bird in hand is worth two in the bush. Or 18 in the bush in this example.

I thought Luka was a no brainer and Dallas moved from 5 to 3 to get him and all it cost them was another 1st. OKC has to get an agreement first to get in the top 3-4 picks before they can go after #1.
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Post#56 » by DayofMourning » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:02 am

AirP. wrote:I thought Luka was a no brainer and Dallas moved from 5 to 3 to get him and all it cost them was another 1st. OKC has to get an agreement first to get in the top 3-4 picks before they can go after #1.


Luka was international though. That always skews perception. I admit I didn't know how to rank him. I just don't know how to evaluate them since I don't get to watch them enough, as highlight reels don't do it for me. In hindsight, Luka would go number one, but honestly, the other teams have done well with their choices in the top five, except for Bagley and the Kings.

I will say that if any team in the top four would be open to taking a chunk of OKC picks it would be Toronto at 4. I think Suggs is a very good player, but I'd take the other three guys over him without a second thought. Toronto could be swayed. OKC is crazy with those picks though. They'll probably want to trade up to 4 from 6 and expect to get back a future first. Presti man...
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Post#57 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:07 am

DayofMourning wrote:
AirP. wrote:Watch for OKC to figure out how to get to #1, this is why they've hoarded assets. In either a multiteam trade or multiple trades, OKC will figure out how to get to #3 and package that with other assets for the #1.


Can't see it, AirP. Detroit has done a pretty good job at building a decent all around team so far. They now have the obvious choice to select a consensus number one player. Some would say a generational (not me, close though) talent. They can't pass that up.

I don't think a top four team will be that interested. Those guys seem pretty solid bets. OKC's guesswork in picks is a big gamble. Don't think it's going to pay off this year.

I see OKC moving up to 3 to get Green or Suggs. Cavs can’t keep on drafting the same positions every year. I think Scottie Barnes is a good fit for them at 6.
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Post#58 » by DayofMourning » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:11 am

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AirP. wrote:Watch for OKC to figure out how to get to #1, this is why they've hoarded assets. In either a multiteam trade or multiple trades, OKC will figure out how to get to #3 and package that with other assets for the #1.


Can't see it, AirP. Detroit has done a pretty good job at building a decent all around team so far. They now have the obvious choice to select a consensus number one player. Some would say a generational (not me, close though) talent. They can't pass that up.

I don't think a top four team will be that interested. Those guys seem pretty solid bets. OKC's guesswork in picks is a big gamble. Don't think it's going to pay off this year.

I see OKC moving up to 3 to get Green or Suggs. Cavs can’t keep on drafting the same positions every year. I think Scottie Barnes is a good fit for them at 6.


It certainly wasn't a great draw for them. However, I'd go with Green and not look back. I'm not a big fan of Garland. He's good potentially, but there's no way I'm passing up Green because of him. If anything, I put Green at SF and roll with it until I can break up the logjam.
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Post#59 » by AirP. » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:13 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
AirP. wrote:Watch for OKC to figure out how to get to #1, this is why they've hoarded assets. In either a multiteam trade or multiple trades, OKC will figure out how to get to #3 and package that with other assets for the #1.


Can't see it, AirP. Detroit has done a pretty good job at building a decent all around team so far. They now have the obvious choice to select a consensus number one player. Some would say a generational (not me, close though) talent. They can't pass that up.

I don't think a top four team will be that interested. Those guys seem pretty solid bets. OKC's guesswork in picks is a big gamble. Don't think it's going to pay off this year.

I see OKC moving up to 3 to get Suggs. Cavs can’t keep on drafting the same positions every year. I think Scottie Barnes is a good fit for them at 6.

The question is what would it take to get the #3 pick for them to try to overwhelm Detroit for the #1. Currently in this draft OKC has the 6th, 16th and 18th first round picks and 2nd round picks at 35, 36 and 55.

Just so many picks...
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Post#60 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:17 am

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Can't see it, AirP. Detroit has done a pretty good job at building a decent all around team so far. They now have the obvious choice to select a consensus number one player. Some would say a generational (not me, close though) talent. They can't pass that up.

I don't think a top four team will be that interested. Those guys seem pretty solid bets. OKC's guesswork in picks is a big gamble. Don't think it's going to pay off this year.

I see OKC moving up to 3 to get Suggs. Cavs can’t keep on drafting the same positions every year. I think Scottie Barnes is a good fit for them at 6.

The question is what would it take to get the #3 pick for them to try to overwhelm Detroit for the #1. Currently in this draft OKC has the 6th, 16th and 18th first round picks and 2nd round picks at 35, 36 and 55.

Just so many picks...
https://www.prosportstransactions.com/basketball/DraftTrades/Future/Thunder.htm

Pistons will stay put. Cavs on the other hand will probably be tempted to get some more pics with all the holes they have.

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