Franchise needs to put the right pieces in place for Cade.

[bstein14]

As exciting as this #1 draft pick is, it also means its incredibly important that we make the right moves and put the right pieces in place so that Cade can excel here. We've seen the Lions constantly blow talent and eventually they want out. They've had guys like Barry retire early, Suh want out, Stafford want out, Megtron want out or retire early, etc. We've seen guys like AD want out of NO, now Zion is rumored to want out after they've had 3 coaches in 3 years.... you've got a certain amount of time when you land a young guy like Cade before the pressure to win starts to build.

With this pick we've jumpstarted our window to start competing for the playoffs and then hopefully beyond that as well. We need to make sure we put in all the right pieces, coaches, player development guys, etc. Detroit should consider hiring former Piston Grant Hill or current ESPN guy Jalen Rose even if its for just from draft day to the start of the season to help another young start make this transition. Both those guys were high lottery picks who came into the league with a bunch of expectations on their backs.

We should be thinking about FA's with our MLE this year based on who is going to fit well with Cade... who is going to be a good teammate and leader, etc. We should be thinking about our current roster and the 15 to 20 shots a night Cade should get. Do we considering moving on from someone like Jackson of Diallo because we want those shots for Cade.

From day one it's about creating a situation to best help him succeed and become the best player he can.

[Kilo]

I could see Cory Joseph's option picked up now. Keep him in Detroit for a year even at $12M as that money would be expiring after next season at the same time as Griffin's buyout comes off the books.

Jackson probably shopped, try and keep Diallo to compete with Cade in practice and the like. Cade still needs to earn it.

Hayes - Joseph - Lee
Cunningham - Diallo - Jackson
Bey - ???
Grant - Doumbouya
Stewart - Plumlee - (Okafor/Cook)

Looking at the roster it looks like SF back-up most pressing need for the MLE money.

[Billl]

Just slow down. Obviously we need to build around Cade, but we shouldn't be making any panic moves to "win now". We need to keep stockpiling young talent that can grow with him.

And if he's the real deal, we aren't going to have to worry about finding shots for him. The ball finds great players.

[DET_Athletics]

I agree that he is a big part of the plan but this roster is a really good fit already, outside of Hayes developing 3 point shot. Diallo is a Plus second unit guy along with F. Jackson. that a good bench backcourt. We need to see in the first year if Cade is better suited to play the SG or SF position, that will dictate if Bey is in the starting lineup or on the bench. i personally think it will work out and he will have a big lineup with a need for rim protection that we just don't have. I think J. Jackson's days are numbered along with Oakfor. J. Jackson is not a great jump shooter and we don't have his bird rights. i like BJ Bostons a lot at the end of the first if we can trade our second rounds pick to move and get him. The lineup I see until further notice:
PG: Hayes/ Frank Jackson/Lee
SG: Cade/ Diallo
SF: Bey/ (Need)
PF: Grant/ Stewart / Sekou
C: Plumlee / Stewart / (Need, Shot Blocker)

[Kilo]

Rudy Gay or Nic Batum?

[flow]

I could see Cory Joseph's option picked up now. Keep him in Detroit for a year even at $12M as that money would be expiring after next season at the same time as Griffin's buyout comes off the books.

Jackson probably shopped, try and keep Diallo to compete with Cade in practice and the like. Cade still needs to earn it.

Hayes - Joseph - Lee
Cunningham - Diallo - Jackson
Bey - ???
Grant - Doumbouya
Stewart - Plumlee - (Okafor/Cook)

Looking at the roster it looks like SF back-up most pressing need for the MLE money.

Why would this influence the team to waste money on Corey Joseph? I don't follow.

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[DET_Athletics]

Just slow down. Obviously we need to build around Cade, but we shouldn't be making any panic moves to "win now". We need to keep stockpiling young talent that can grow with him.

And if he's the real deal, we aren't going to have to worry about finding shots for him. The ball finds great players.

I think this is the fatal flaw that a lot of franchises that landed a star have made, for example, New Orleans. When they landed Anthony Davis they were in such a rush to compete that they blew everything for mediocre players. I don't see Pistons making the same mistakes. Troy Weaver is very savvy, we are not going to rush it or blow the opportunity we just got to be great. #InWeaverWeTrust

[Moses ShamMoses]

What would it take to get Wiseman from GSW? I still think he can be a stud center in this league.

[flow]

What would it take to get Wiseman from GSW? I still think he can be a stud center in this league.

#1

For

#7
#14
Wiseman
2022 1st
2023 1st

[Snakebites]

We need to get the RIGHT pieces.

Last thing we need is to rush to overpay for “kinda sorta” right ones that don’t fit the timeline.

[DET_Athletics]

I could see Cory Joseph's option picked up now. Keep him in Detroit for a year even at $12M as that money would be expiring after next season at the same time as Griffin's buyout comes off the books.

Jackson probably shopped, try and keep Diallo to compete with Cade in practice and the like. Cade still needs to earn it.

Hayes - Joseph - Lee
Cunningham - Diallo - Jackson
Bey - ???
Grant - Doumbouya
Stewart - Plumlee - (Okafor/Cook)

Looking at the roster it looks like SF back-up most pressing need for the MLE money.

I think the opportunity cost is too great. if we move J. Jackson and Oakfor for nothing draft night we can clear 22-23 million dollars for free agency. We have Diallos bird rights and we can bring back Frank Jackson with the MLE.

[buzzkilloton]

Just slow down. Obviously we need to build around Cade, but we shouldn't be making any panic moves to "win now". We need to keep stockpiling young talent that can grow with him.

And if he's the real deal, we aren't going to have to worry about finding shots for him. The ball finds great players.

Agreed 100%. Cade is going to be around here for years to come. The play here is to see what our young team looks like next season with Cade and another year of development from last years class. We will be picking in the lotto again next season hopefully we get some more luck and then we can see what we have. No need to bust a nut early and try to rush into the playoffs lets see what the team looks like with Cade then decide what to add.

[Kilo]

I could see Cory Joseph's option picked up now. Keep him in Detroit for a year even at $12M as that money would be expiring after next season at the same time as Griffin's buyout comes off the books.

Jackson probably shopped, try and keep Diallo to compete with Cade in practice and the like. Cade still needs to earn it.

Hayes - Joseph - Lee
Cunningham - Diallo - Jackson
Bey - ???
Grant - Doumbouya
Stewart - Plumlee - (Okafor/Cook)

Looking at the roster it looks like SF back-up most pressing need for the MLE money.

I think the opportunity cost is too great. if we move J. Jackson and Oakfor for nothing draft night we can clear 22-23 million dollars for free agency. We have Diallos bird rights and we can bring back Frank Jackson with the MLE.

What FA would you target for 22M? Could DDR be had for that money? I think the Pistons are better off having a growth year to struggle to make the playoffs and then have 40M in cap space for 2022.

I don't want Norman Powell with that money for example.

[stylesofpunk]

I wonder if rockets would do both late 1sts and Gordon for our 2 early 2nds

Gordon is on a 2 year deal and can come off the bench. Would be a vet for Hayes/Cade.

We then would have 2 late 1sts to add depth

[ByeByeDre]

I wonder if rockets would do both late 1sts and Gordon for our 2 early 2nds

Gordon is on a 2 year deal and can come off the bench. Would be a vet for Hayes/Cade.

We then would have 2 late 1sts to add depth

They would not.

[DET_Athletics]

We need to get the RIGHT pieces.

Last thing we need is to rush to overpay for “kinda sorta” right ones that don’t fit the timeline.

devil's advocate... I know, crazy, but your thoughts on this draft night trade?
1.) we drop the pick protection for Houston and they get our 2022 pick
2.) we trade Cojo, Plumplee, Mcgruder, J. Jackson, all of our 2 RND picks This Year, 2024 FRP, and two future 2RND for Turner and TJ Warren (or we decline the options on COJO and Mcgruder to create the space, whichever comes first)

Hayes / Jackon / Lee
Cunningham / Diallo
Bey / TJ Warren
Grant / Doumbouya
Turner / Stewart / Oakfor

that lineup has youth and contention written all over it, plus we would have Blake's money coming off the following year to add another "Star", I know big cost with the picks and it still might not be enough value for the pacers.

[Pharaoh]

No need to jump into anything stupid just because we landed Cade.

If anything it's more reason to be patient and let next season play out with the guys we already have and then make moves in free agency when Blake's deal comes off the books:

Hayes - (Cade) - Lee
Cade - Diallo - FJ
Bey - JJ - Sirvy
Grant - Sekou
Stewart - Plumlee - Okafor

Consider we still have the 3 seconds to bring in (or consolidate) too.

I might be more inclined to keep Ellington around if he wants to come back but otherwise I'm rolling out the above roster and evaluating it.

After next season we just might be that young team.on the rise like the Hawks were.

They went and got some quality vets and are now in the ECF

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[bstein14]

Cameron Payne killing it tonight for the Suns. Will he want to go somewhere he can have a chance to start next year? He's been great for Phoenix and really shoots the three ball well. He's played with Grant in OKC and Weaver knows him well. Had a tough few years with some injuries and had to play over in China but has done a great job making his way back to the league. Feels like he'd pair well in a backcourt with Cade.

Part of me for sure has some concern throwing out a Cade/Hayes backcourt out there and think Hayes would do much better off the bench with the 2nd unit and its going to be better for us to pair Cade with a better player at PG starting out to put him in a better position to succeed. Hayes if for sure the weak link in the starting lineup at the moment.

[DET_Athletics]

I could see Cory Joseph's option picked up now. Keep him in Detroit for a year even at $12M as that money would be expiring after next season at the same time as Griffin's buyout comes off the books.

Jackson probably shopped, try and keep Diallo to compete with Cade in practice and the like. Cade still needs to earn it.

Hayes - Joseph - Lee
Cunningham - Diallo - Jackson
Bey - ???
Grant - Doumbouya
Stewart - Plumlee - (Okafor/Cook)

Looking at the roster it looks like SF back-up most pressing need for the MLE money.

I think the opportunity cost is too great. if we move J. Jackson and Oakfor for nothing draft night we can clear 22-23 million dollars for free agency. We have Diallos bird rights and we can bring back Frank Jackson with the MLE.

What FA would you target for 22M? Could DDR be had for that money? I think the Pistons are better off having a growth year to struggle to make the playoffs and then have 40M in cap space for 2022.

I don't want Norman Powell with that money for example.

true but who says the 22 million couldn't be a one-year deal. If you throw that money at Dinwiddie or a restricted free agent we could pry them away from the right team, no?

[ByeByeDre]

Build up Hayes’ value before you trade him. No need to trade him now - Pistons aren’t winning it all next year