2020-2021 College/Draft Thread Part 3

[DowNY]

Just checked and those Cooper measurements are still there...

[Davis18]

Apparently the media did this year?

No All-NBA 2nd teamer would get traded for that package no matter how fraudulent pessimistic Knicks fan may think it is...

The top 5 picks are already in the hall of fame by draft fans. A bust or mediocre player is not even a possibility

Yep, all 5 of them are literally Michael Jordan.

I actually can’t wait for some of these dudes to get in the league and struggle and I’m very confident that will happen and it will be pointed out repeatedly.

Cade shot 26% in the NCAA tournament and barely beat a Bible college and lost to a 12 seed, he is not going to make the Pistons a threat any time soon

This convo is about possibility of cashing out on all nba regular season performance by Randle not top 5 picks.

[Orange Mamba]

RIP to Cade's career

[HEZI]

Read on Twitter

I really like him. I thought there was a chance we get him in the 2nd round and there still might be but his stock seems to be climbing and I wouldn't be mad at all if we took him with one of our 1st round picks. He's a baller

when those wingspan #'s came out the $$$ started rising

I never get caught up on length of arms, we all know it doesn't mean much. It's something to talk about and analyze when there isn't any basketball actually going on but I liked Deuce way before the combine and his stock is rising because of his game.

[FreeSpiritNY]

Apparently the media did this year?

No All-NBA 2nd teamer would get traded for that package no matter how fraudulent pessimistic Knicks fan may think it is...

The top 5 picks are already in the hall of fame by draft fans. A bust or mediocre player is not even a possibility

Yep, all 5 of them are literally Michael Jordan.

I actually can’t wait for some of these dudes to get in the league and struggle and I’m very confident that will happen and it will be pointed out repeatedly.

Cade shot 26% in the NCAA tournament and barely beat a Bible college and lost to a 12 seed, he is not going to make the Pistons a threat any time soon

Cade is going to be a bust. Cooper and duarte will be better players if they get the minutes. I dont see the hype in cade. Because he looks smooth? He also looks slow as a turtle is going to get slammed when he plays defense. his offense is based on being bigger than the opposing player which wont happen in the nab

[Gravy]

Apparently the media did this year?

No All-NBA 2nd teamer would get traded for that package no matter how fraudulent pessimistic Knicks fan may think it is...

The top 5 picks are already in the hall of fame by draft fans. A bust or mediocre player is not even a possibility

Yep, all 5 of them are literally Michael Jordan.

I actually can’t wait for some of these dudes to get in the league and struggle and I’m very confident that will happen and it will be pointed out repeatedly.

Cade shot 26% in the NCAA tournament and barely beat a Bible college and lost to a 12 seed, he is not going to make the Pistons a threat any time soon

I heard the Pistons are already better than us and favorites to win the championship next year.

But yeah, unless someone is literally as good as Lebron they will have to find other good players and a coach and trades and all the things that need to happen to turn a bad team into a good one.

[Deeeez Knicks]

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I really like him. I thought there was a chance we get him in the 2nd round and there still might be but his stock seems to be climbing and I wouldn't be mad at all if we took him with one of our 1st round picks. He's a baller

I wouldn’t mind taking him in the first either, especially since we have 2 picks…even better if we could get him in the 2nd but seems like he might be working his way up

[mpharris36]

I really like him. I thought there was a chance we get him in the 2nd round and there still might be but his stock seems to be climbing and I wouldn't be mad at all if we took him with one of our 1st round picks. He's a baller

when those wingspan #'s came out the $$$ started rising

I never get caught up on length of arms, we all know it doesn't mean much. It's something to talk about and analyze when there isn't any basketball actually going on but I liked Deuce way before the combine and his stock is rising because of his game.

it matters because it also gives him positional versatility which is valuable in todays NBA. Marcus Smart is small but has a huge winspan which allows him to guard like 4 positions. It helps when you need to switch and teams take advantage of your weakness. I think wingspan matters way more than height cause you don't guard guys with your head.

Skill is obvious the most important (but you could watch him this year to know he has skill). A lot of guys have skill but they just aren't big enough to play in the NBA because they get taken advantage of. the wingspan helps

[HEZI]

when those wingspan #'s came out the $$$ started rising

I never get caught up on length of arms, we all know it doesn't mean much. It's something to talk about and analyze when there isn't any basketball actually going on but I liked Deuce way before the combine and his stock is rising because of his game.

it matters because it also gives him positional versatility which is valuable in todays NBA. Marcus Smart is small but has a huge winspan which allows him to guard like 4 positions. It helps when you need to switch and teams take advantage of your weakness. I think wingspan matters way more than height cause you don't guard guys with your head.

Skill is obvious the most important (but you could watch him this year to know he has skill). A lot of guys have skill but they just aren't big enough to play in the NBA because they get taken advantage of. the wingspan helps

Positioning, footwork, quickness, instincts, etc. These are what make guys quality defenders especially guards, not long arms. Marcus Smart has those qualities.

[Richard4444]

I just want that OKC pick #16 for a fair price

Don't really know what OKC would want from us. Would imagine they would try and consolidate their picks rather than add more this year. They might send the farm to try to move up into top 4 with Cleveland or something?

Maybe go 6,16,18 for number 3?

Can't imagine Toronto, Detroit or Houston would want to trade out at this point, but Cleveland could maybe be convinced since they'll be stuck taking a guard most likely at 3.

Trading down #3 in 4 or 5 players draft does not look so appealing.

[mpharris36]

I never get caught up on length of arms, we all know it doesn't mean much. It's something to talk about and analyze when there isn't any basketball actually going on but I liked Deuce way before the combine and his stock is rising because of his game.

it matters because it also gives him positional versatility which is valuable in todays NBA. Marcus Smart is small but has a huge winspan which allows him to guard like 4 positions. It helps when you need to switch and teams take advantage of your weakness. I think wingspan matters way more than height cause you don't guard guys with your head.

Skill is obvious the most important (but you could watch him this year to know he has skill). A lot of guys have skill but they just aren't big enough to play in the NBA because they get taken advantage of. the wingspan helps

Positioning, footwork, quickness, instincts, etc. These are what make guys quality defenders especially guards, not long arms. Marcus Smart has those qualities.

there is a lot of quick guards with good footwork that doesn't translate into being a good defender.. IQ matters I agree. But its also not a coincidence that a vast majority of the elite defenders in the NBA have + wingspans. I'm not saying its the only skill required I think its one of the 3 main ones.

IQ/Instincts
lateral mobility/footworks
wingspan

that is where you get elite defenders. My point is that the wingspan numbers sure didn't hurt mcbride's stock today.

[HEZI]

it matters because it also gives him positional versatility which is valuable in todays NBA. Marcus Smart is small but has a huge winspan which allows him to guard like 4 positions. It helps when you need to switch and teams take advantage of your weakness. I think wingspan matters way more than height cause you don't guard guys with your head.

Skill is obvious the most important (but you could watch him this year to know he has skill). A lot of guys have skill but they just aren't big enough to play in the NBA because they get taken advantage of. the wingspan helps

Positioning, footwork, quickness, instincts, etc. These are what make guys quality defenders especially guards, not long arms. Marcus Smart has those qualities.

there is a lot of quick guards with good footwork that doesn't translate into being a good defender.. IQ matters I agree. But its also not a coincidence that a vast majority of the elite defenders in the NBA have + wingspans. I'm not saying its the only skill required I think its one of the 3 main ones.

IQ/Instincts
lateral mobility/footworks
wingspan

that is where you get elite defenders. My point is that the wingspan numbers sure didn't hurt mcbride's stock today.

On defense? No a lot of NBA guards know how to move their feet going forward but can't stay in front of guys defensively. How many NBA guards have long arms?

The only thing that matters with McBride is that he's a baller. GMs and scouts continue to pump up dudes based on measurements and year after year it proves to be nothing significant to write about.

[Spree2Houston]

In a few years we will be proposing offers with multiple 1sts to get one of the top 5 in this draft lol

[RandlesCornrows]

Wonder if Golden State would want to draft back their 14th pick for 19&32. Now that they got Minnesota’s pick they can stock pile youth while continue on runs.

[DowNY]

Kings at 9 & Pelicans at 10 are interesting. Both teams have bad contracts that we can take on in a trade up scenario. Hield, Bledsoe, Adams, etc

[DowNY]

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Yeah, let’s target 9

[WargamesX]

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Yeah, let’s target 9

I think they take Jalen Johnson or Franz.

[robillionaire]

Kings at 9 & Pelicans at 10 are interesting. Both teams have bad contracts that we can take on in a trade up scenario. Hield, Bledsoe, Adams, etc

but who would you want to target there that's worth taking on a bad contract for

[WargamesX]

Kings at 9 & Pelicans at 10 are interesting. Both teams have bad contracts that we can take on in a trade up scenario. Hield, Bledsoe, Adams, etc

That Bledsoe contract is on 4 Mil guaranteed in 2022. If Knicks could grab that for 9

Hear me out too Griffin is on the hot seat. They might do the trade to actually have money in FA.

[Knicksfan1992]

Kings at 9 & Pelicans at 10 are interesting. Both teams have bad contracts that we can take on in a trade up scenario. Hield, Bledsoe, Adams, etc

That Bledsoe contract is on 4 Mil guaranteed in 2022. If Knicks could grab that for 9

Hear me out too Griffin is on the hot seat. They might do the trade to actually have money in FA.

They have the Lakers pick in 2022. We can probably pry that off them...

Maybe something like

Knox, 21,32

for

Bledsoe, 10, and Lakers '22 1st

It saves them a ton of money long term and allows them to retain Lonzo guilt free.