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Post#521 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:10 pm

Ok we got unlucky but I still think this whole "top 4 players of the draft is similar to 2003" a bit overrated. I badly wanted Cade or Jalen Green because of superstar potential (more than in Mobley or Suggs in my opinion) but now it's time for Presti to draft well...for sure at least one player in the top 6-10 gonna be an all star. We can easily draft two top 12+/- picks if we want.

This Hollinger mock draft is intriguing....I love Sengun while I'm SO low on Scottie Barnes....but who really knows?

Gonna be a very challenging draft/offseason for Presti. No leverage this time, no valuable players to trade and gonna need to draft pretty well.

No idea what is the best solution for us going forward but I wouldn't mind paying a lot to move up in the draft. A rebuild team needs luck in the lottery and skill/luck at drafting. We have enough future picks to diminish the luck impact of our rebuild so I would rather avoid the ping pong balls being the most impactful moment of our season for several years (I would not have the same opinion before the new lottery rules).
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Post#523 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:37 pm

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Post#524 » by BlazersBroncos » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:48 pm

I say go all in on Euros. Find a way to turn 6, 16, 18 into Sengun and Giddey.

I also dont think #6 for Sexton would be a bad move. Sexton is 22 and a ideal fit next to SGA on paper. The issue is that he is due to be paid summer 2022.
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Post#525 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:48 pm

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Well everything has a prize...doesn't mean it's worth it or that we are able to do it :)

If the rumors are true about several of these teams being willing to trade their pick for win now players, I can see the early framework for a multi team deal. My guess is Weaver might be willing to let someone have Cade at #1 if he can assure he gets Green. Most teams know OKC would move up and has the assets to do so but so does Orlando. I could see a path to move up to 4/5 to maybe get Suggs. Anything higher probably involves us moving Shai.
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Post#526 » by spearsy23 » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:07 pm

Old Man Game wrote:I appreciate Hollinger's analysis. I think having a different top five is great. This sort of group think where every mock has the same 6 guys at the top is boring and probably contributes at some level to high end lottery busts.

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Mock drafts aren't necessarily indicators of how good the writer expects a player to be. Hollinger's wasn't a mock, it was a 'best prospects ranked article. Most mocks by plugged in sources should be pretty homogenous.

I would have of course preferred cade, but coming away with a defensive minded wing with legitimate sf size would still be a win. Barnes is probably the best fit for the current construction of our roster. Too bad fit doesn't matter too much when the roster stinks.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#527 » by spearsy23 » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:10 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:I say go all in on Euros. Find a way to turn 6, 16, 18 into Sengun and Giddey.

I also dont think #6 for Sexton would be a bad move. Sexton is 22 and a ideal fit next to SGA on paper. The issue is that he is due to be paid summer 2022.

Strong disagree on sexton and shai. George Hill was the perfect type of player to pair with him. Need a secondary creator who can also defend point guards at a high level. Or a superstar obviously.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#528 » by thor19 » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:25 pm

If we keep our pick, we go for the defensive type prospect in Barnes or Keon or go for the offensive type in Bouknight or Moody
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Post#529 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:28 pm

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BlazersBroncos wrote:I say go all in on Euros. Find a way to turn 6, 16, 18 into Sengun and Giddey.

I also dont think #6 for Sexton would be a bad move. Sexton is 22 and a ideal fit next to SGA on paper. The issue is that he is due to be paid summer 2022.

Strong disagree on sexton and shai. George Hill was the perfect type of player to pair with him. Need a secondary creator who can also defend point guards at a high level. Or a superstar obviously.

Suggs fits that description. I don't think he goes top 3.
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Post#530 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:29 pm

thor19 wrote:If we keep our pick, we go for the defensive type prospect in Barnes or Keon or go for the offensive type in Bouknight or Moody

I would take Barnes over Keon. It's kind of a toss up for me on Bouknight and Moody. Bouknight feels like a guy that if people pass on, he'll make them look stupid and if we draft him he comes the pre-Utah version of Jordan Clarkson.
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Post#531 » by spearsy23 » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:34 pm

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BlazersBroncos wrote:I say go all in on Euros. Find a way to turn 6, 16, 18 into Sengun and Giddey.

I also dont think #6 for Sexton would be a bad move. Sexton is 22 and a ideal fit next to SGA on paper. The issue is that he is due to be paid summer 2022.

Strong disagree on sexton and shai. George Hill was the perfect type of player to pair with him. Need a secondary creator who can also defend point guards at a high level. Or a superstar obviously.

Suggs fits that description. I don't think he goes top 3.

Not opposed. Wish he shot it better, and George Hill isn't exactly what you're hoping to get out of that high of a draft pick. But if you think he's going to be good then I agree he's a solid fit.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#532 » by spearsy23 » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:42 pm

Somebody lookup the scottie Barnes comparisons on nbadraft.net. it's Draymond Green/Jabari Parker :lol:
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#533 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:51 pm

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spearsy23 wrote:Strong disagree on sexton and shai. George Hill was the perfect type of player to pair with him. Need a secondary creator who can also defend point guards at a high level. Or a superstar obviously.

Suggs fits that description. I don't think he goes top 3.

Not opposed. Wish he shot it better, and George Hill isn't exactly what you're hoping to get out of that high of a draft pick. But if you think he's going to be good then I agree he's a solid fit.

I'm not sure he improves to be a 40% guy but I can foresee him being league average.
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Post#534 » by Dn4sty » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:52 pm

I don’t think it’s crazy to walk away with Barnes and Bouknight in this draft and be pretty happy considering how things went last night
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Post#535 » by retrobro90 » Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:12 pm

I guess I'm the only one high on Scottie Barnes on this board. Gonna be upset if they stay at 6 and take anyone else tbh. Think he's on an upward trajectory and that Draymond as his absolute ceiling is short sighted.
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Post#536 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:16 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:I say go all in on Euros. Find a way to turn 6, 16, 18 into Sengun and Giddey.

I also dont think #6 for Sexton would be a bad move. Sexton is 22 and a ideal fit next to SGA on paper. The issue is that he is due to be paid summer 2022.


I disagree on Sexton but I'm with you with Sengun and Giddey. It's a bit crazy to pick Sengun (or Giddey) at 6 but...I like him a lot.
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Post#537 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:34 pm

retrobro90 wrote:I guess I'm the only one high on Scottie Barnes on this board. Gonna be upset if they stay at 6 and take anyone else tbh. Think he's on an upward trajectory and that Draymond as his absolute ceiling is short sighted.

I'm not opposed to him as a prospect, I just had higher hopes. Barnes has the ability to be good but surrounding him with non shooters like Dort, Bazley and Poku starts to have a roster construction I don't like. Maybe Poku gets better and some of those other guys move on. I don't think all of those guys are permanent but you would have to figure that Barnes would be a long term piece if taken. That being said, I think he's the best option at the sixth pick.
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Post#538 » by Old Man Game » Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:44 pm

Kuminga just sort of left out of the discussion altogether?
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Post#539 » by spearsy23 » Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:47 pm

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retrobro90 wrote:I guess I'm the only one high on Scottie Barnes on this board. Gonna be upset if they stay at 6 and take anyone else tbh. Think he's on an upward trajectory and that Draymond as his absolute ceiling is short sighted.

I'm not opposed to him as a prospect, I just had higher hopes. Barnes has the ability to be good but surrounding him with non shooters like Dort, Bazley and Poku starts to have a roster construction I don't like. Maybe Poku gets better and some of those other guys move on. I don't think all of those guys are permanent but you would have to figure that Barnes would be a long term piece if taken. That being said, I think he's the best option at the sixth pick.

Dort's not a bad 3 point shooter at this point especially given his volume, and if poku doesn't improve drastically then it doesn't really matter because he won't be in the league long term. Same as every rebuild though, roster construction doesn't matter since 2/3 of these guys won't be here in 3 years. Just worry about fit next to shai at this point.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#540 » by spearsy23 » Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:49 pm

Old Man Game wrote:Kuminga just sort of left out of the discussion altogether?

I think he most likely ends up being our pick and I think he's the most likely to flame out. Upside is cool, but it rarely pans out at this position.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.

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