Orlando Magic Trade Thread?

[PrimeThyme]

Orlando Trades: Terrance Ross & 5
Cleveland Trades:Taurean Prince & 3

Cleveland gets a vet sniper for the bench or every starter & say Kuminga.

Orlando moves up gets the guy they want and a 1 year depth piece in Prince.

I wake up from lollipop land and reality hits.

I think the price may be lollipop land, but us as trade partners isn't that far-fetched tbh. With Sexton/Garland/Okoro on the roster, I could see them wanting to add a forward prospect to their core.

If they can do that by moving back and taking assets on from us, it seems like a no-brainer for them. That's why the fifth spot in this draft is far from a bad spot for us. There is a clear drop-off after Kuminga. Landing 6th overall would have been doomsday. 5th gives us flexibility.

I think that 2024 Chicago first would have to be attached in that deal, however. Or the 8th pick. Ross won't do it.

[RookieStar]

sure, why not. I think if Ross could fetch anything more than a couple of 2nds he would have been moved at the deadline.

Or he could be kept as a future asset to make with other players. Terence is not worth peanuts around the league... Especially since he's torched everybody at least once.

Do you think he wasn't shopped hard at the deadline? He's worth what teams are willing to give up, and that wasn't enough for a Magic team selling off in part to lose games. That should say everything about his value around the league.

Do you think Lowry wasnt shopped hard at the deadline? Everything you said goes with Lowry as well. That includes TOR also going full tank and the league knew it. Is his value acccurate because.no one gave up anything and they might be regretting it now.

Other teams.might have thought his value low while we think otherwise.

[jonbob17]

Or he could be kept as a future asset to make with other players. Terence is not worth peanuts around the league... Especially since he's torched everybody at least once.

Do you think he wasn't shopped hard at the deadline? He's worth what teams are willing to give up, and that wasn't enough for a Magic team selling off in part to lose games. That should say everything about his value around the league.

Do you think Lowry wasnt shopped hard at the deadline? Everything you said goes with Lowry as well. That includes TOR also going full tank and the league knew it. Is his value acccurate because.no one gave up anything and they might be regretting it now.

Other teams.might have thought his value low while we think otherwise.

Lowry's value is as a sign in trade to a contender with limited cap space. I think we are set at SG for next year. Ross has value, but it's not like his contract is great, so while he is not a rental, its not like he has surplus value.
Do you think Ross is worth a first without taking back a negative deal? That's just not how deals have been trending for those type of role players lately

To the Pistons fans suggestion above. Josh Jackson and 2 2nds for Ross. Yes, absolutely. How many shooting guards are we going to carry on this team. At least Josh Jackson plays a position of need, and is a swing on a relatively young guy trending in the right direction.

[RookieStar]

Do you think he wasn't shopped hard at the deadline? He's worth what teams are willing to give up, and that wasn't enough for a Magic team selling off in part to lose games. That should say everything about his value around the league.

Do you think Lowry wasnt shopped hard at the deadline? Everything you said goes with Lowry as well. That includes TOR also going full tank and the league knew it. Is his value acccurate because.no one gave up anything and they might be regretting it now.

Other teams.might have thought his value low while we think otherwise.

Lowry's value is as a sign in trade to a contender with limited cap space. I think we are set at SG for next year. Ross has value, but it's not like his contract is great, so while he is not a rental, its not like he has surplus value.
Do you think Ross is worth a first without taking back a negative deal? That's just not how deals have been trending for those type of role players lately

To the Pistons fans suggestion above. Josh Jackson and 2 2nds for Ross. Yes, absolutely. How many shooting guards are we going to carry on this team. At least Josh Jackson plays a position of need, and is a swing on a relatively young guy trending in the right direction.

First off.. we really dont know what we were asking for Ross unless you know something? Also, compared to the contracts some of these guys have, Ross isnt overpaid.

[yoyojw17]

sure, why not. I think if Ross could fetch anything more than a couple of 2nds he would have been moved at the deadline.

Or he could be kept as a future asset to make with other players. Terence is not worth peanuts around the league... Especially since he's torched everybody at least once.

Do you think he wasn't shopped hard at the deadline? He's worth what teams are willing to give up, and that wasn't enough for a Magic team selling off in part to lose games. That should say everything about his value around the league.

or they want to keep a veteran presence still in place. One that is not part of the alpha player group... and will still happily do what he does.... come off the bench and provide.

or they also didn't want to put all the eggs in one basket and still have an opportunity to make tweaks later on... while still having an asset to use in a trade.

sounds perfectly fine to me!

[Nyce_1]

Bamba + #33 for Bagley: who says no?

then...

Bagley + #5 for #3: who says no?

[RookieStar]

Bamba + #33 for Bagley: who says no?

then...

Bagley + #5 for #3: who says no?

No need to add 33. Bamba for Bagley and im good.

[The Effect]

Bamba + #33 for Bagley: who says no?

then...

Bagley + #5 for #3: who says no?

Cleveland, probably pretty quickly

If bagley's value is so low that we can get him for bamba, I'm sure the Cavs can find a way to trade for him without giving up #3

[tiderulz]

Bamba + #33 for Bagley: who says no?

then...

Bagley + #5 for #3: who says no?

Cleveland, probably pretty quickly

If bagley's value is so low that we can get him for bamba, I'm sure the Cavs can find a way to trade for him without giving up #3

yeah, i dont think that would really do much for Cleveland. People call ISaac an injury risk, he played more games his 1st three years than Bagley did, and doesnt have Bagley's reported attitude issues

[jonbob17]

Or he could be kept as a future asset to make with other players. Terence is not worth peanuts around the league... Especially since he's torched everybody at least once.

Do you think he wasn't shopped hard at the deadline? He's worth what teams are willing to give up, and that wasn't enough for a Magic team selling off in part to lose games. That should say everything about his value around the league.

or they want to keep a veteran presence still in place. One that is not part of the alpha player group... and will still happily do what he does.... come off the bench and provide.

or they also didn't want to put all the eggs in one basket and still have an opportunity to make tweaks later on... while still having an asset to use in a trade.

sounds perfectly fine to me!

Without wearing homer glasses, do you think there is a universe where Terrence Ross is worth a 1st round pick, without taking back a contract?
If the answer is no, then we should acquire the draft assets and in this hypothetical the youngish wing (with good size). It's not like Ross is an on-the-court leader. He seems like a fun guy to have on and around the team. A bit wonky in real life. At the end of the day he's just a bench scorer that gets hot sometimes.

EDIT: He's actually one of the best at making contested 3's, but inefficient overall

[yoyojw17]

Do you think he wasn't shopped hard at the deadline? He's worth what teams are willing to give up, and that wasn't enough for a Magic team selling off in part to lose games. That should say everything about his value around the league.

or they want to keep a veteran presence still in place. One that is not part of the alpha player group... and will still happily do what he does.... come off the bench and provide.

or they also didn't want to put all the eggs in one basket and still have an opportunity to make tweaks later on... while still having an asset to use in a trade.

sounds perfectly fine to me!

Without wearing homer glasses, do you think there is a universe where Terrence Ross is worth a 1st round pick, without taking back a contract?
If the answer is no, then we should acquire the draft assets and in this hypothetical the youngish wing (with good size). It's not like Ross is an on-the-court leader. He seems like a fun guy to have on and around the team. A bit wonky in real life. At the end of the day he's just a bench scorer that gets hot sometimes.

EDIT: He's actually one of the best at making contested 3's, but inefficient overall

homer glasses are off. I never said WHAT we would get... I'm discussing mainly WHY he wasn't traded at the same time as everyone else. and Without homer glasses... yes... i can see him getting a first... but with a player for salary matching... late first to a team that needs his skills for a push in the playoffs and not looking for another young player. ALL i'm saying is... he is a trade asset and sometimes it makes sense to not use all assets at the same time.

[The Effect]

On the Zach lowe podcast, he and another guy (missed his name)talked about how they don't see SGA doesn't fit the okc timeline and wouldn't be surprised if he gets traded (paraphrased obviously)..... If that's the case, what could we traded for him?

I'd take him over anyone we could get in this draft

[MasterGMer]

Am I the only one who doesn't want to trade Terrence Ross?

We can flip Bamba + Harris + 8th pick for SGA. Will OKC do it?

[SOUL]

We can flip Bamba + Harris + 8th pick for SGA. Will OKC do it?

OKC:

[RookieStar]

Am I the only one who doesn't want to trade Terrence Ross?

We can flip Bamba + Harris + 8th pick for SGA. Will OKC do it?

what??? no! !!!

OKC woule laugh at us.... call us back just to laugh some more and probably screenshot the convo so the other 28 GMs in the league would laugh at us as well.

[The Effect]

Am I the only one who doesn't want to trade Terrence Ross?

We can flip Bamba + Harris + 8th pick for SGA. Will OKC do it?

what??? no! !!!

OKC woule laugh at us.... call us back just to laugh some more and probably screenshot the convo so the other 28 GMs in the league would laugh at us as well.

That seriously made my day



BUt on a more serious note
OKC - SGA
Orlando - #5, 33, and the next Bulls pick, bamba or wendell (wendell is essentially a younger al horford who they just traded)

That would give them 5 and 6, plus another first to add to their collection and 33 is essentially a late 1st this year

Who says no? this would essentially mean we traded vuc and and our 2nd rounder for SGA, which to me insane value, but is that enough for OKC? Im betting they would demand either cole or RJ, but that gets to be too much?

[MasterGMer]

Portland not only wants Billups, but also want to make a trade for Ben Simmons.

What will it take for Magic to trade for the top 3 pick in this year's draft? Considering Detroit might be interested in the young pieces we have. And rumors have Pistons looking at Mobley and Green.

Do you think it is legit?

Orlando Magic Daily also speculated a scenario to trade for Houston's NO.2 pick and Cleveland's NO.3 pick by taking back bad contract, Eric Gordon or Kevin Love.

If we need a franchise chasing star, we need to trade up IMO

[MasterGMer]

Read on Twitter

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Portland and GSW both are rumored to chase Ben Simmons

[RookieStar]

Ok.. why are we so late on this but the basketball world aka NBA.. has been talking about OKC making it.known SGA is on the table.

The reason is... he doesnt fit their timeline. Really? wow.. anyway have at it. Some teams are offering the souls of their unborn kids already.

[Skybox]

Ok.. why are we so late on this but the basketball world aka NBA.. has been talking about OKC making it.known SGA is on the table.

The reason is... he doesnt fit their timeline. Really? wow.. anyway have at it. Some teams are offering the souls of their unborn kids already.

That's awful on their part, I was wondering when their one solid piece would not be down with sitting and waiting for 2030 master plan to start paying off. It may just be wishful RealGm rumors, but that's a guy I'd empty the vault for...mastermind Presti might just be jumping the shark if he trades his one known prize for more future hopes...that's just the kind of plan that gets a team moved from a small market when the fans put their money back in their pockets and say "Call us when you start actually fielding a team".