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Re: Woj: Ime Udoka To Be Named Head Coach 

Post#161 » by canman1971 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:55 am

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bisme37 wrote:That tweet wasn't fake and he wasn't hacked either. He tried to give a heartfelt congrats to Ime Udoka and added in the part that wasn't remotely true. Everyone made fun of him so he took it down. Now he's saying someone else hacked into his twitter account so they could congratulate Ime Udoka. Yeah I'm so sure bro rofl. Just admit the mistake or shut up about it man, you sound even dumber now.


Ya it's kinda sad. He made an honest mistake, I'm sure, but he made it trying to dunk on the Boston which is not cool, and then lies about it as so many are prone to do. Smart dude but very unfortunate.

No, it wasn’t an honest mistake. If you played in the NBA and follow the NBA, this history in basic knowledge. He made himself look like a vindictive, uneducated tool trying to look like some smart guy. Either way, he’s a moron. And it’s an insult to the Boston Celtics and their history for equality.
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Re: Woj: Ime Udoka To Be Named Head Coach 

Post#162 » by Edug27 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:11 am

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So we're going to use the not healthy in ____ years excuse every year? Next year its going to be the Celtics haven't been healthy in 5 years so that's why Marcus jacks up 10 3s. Seriously should play him like Rondo. Just pass the ball and play D. Thats it.

I like him when hes locked in on defense but the fact he can't do any wrong with a certain sect of the board is odd. Dude takes bad shots consistently. I'm tired of the injury excuse with this team too. Maybe the pieces just don't fit.


You exaggerate the number of 3-point shots Marcus takes. His career average for 3-point shots is 4.7/game. The majority of the 3s he takes are when he has a good look, or when the clock is running down. He has good shooting games, and bad ones, like any player. His 3-point average last year was 33%, not especially good, but in the average range. That average dipped from the previous two years when he shot 36% and 35%. While he may take some ill advised shots, it is a common strategy to move the ball to find a player who is open for a three point shot. Coaches, including Brad Stevens, encourage players to take those open threes. While Marcus is not an elite shooter, he's good enough that he should take the shot when he gets a good look. For the most part, that is what Marcus does. Takes the three when he gets a good look. If he misses, it's not usually because he took a "bad shot," but just because he missed. An excellent 3-point shooter will can a shot 40% of the time. The other 60%? Misses. A miss is a miss, bad shot or not.


There's a reason Smart finds himself so open for 3s so often (hint: it's their opponents' defensive strategy), but he often takes them far earlier in the clock than he should, given his .330 average vs. the league's .367 average or the team's .374 average (with Smart's clunkers averaged in).


Been saying this for quite some time now. A Smart three ball is exactly what every defense wants. Same as a Draymond 3.. or a Giannas 3.. or a Ben Simmons FT.
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Re: Woj: Ime Udoka To Be Named Head Coach 

Post#163 » by tfribs45 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:25 am

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If Keith’s sources are correct, then it looks like Marcus will be staying.

Can’t imagine Brad asked him his opinion to then send him packing. But I guess Ainge did it with IT, so maybe he does have that worminess to him as well.


Great.... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Another year of Smart jacking up endless amounts of 3s.


Careful. CAREFUL.

Should absolutely have a trigger warning for post that show smart in a bad light.


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Re: Woj: Ime Udoka To Be Named Head Coach 

Post#164 » by playa-hater » Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:36 am

playa-hater wrote:For the record, there isn't anyone on here, I don't think, disliked Coach Brad Stevens more than me. But GM/President Brad Stevens is getting a A to A+ from me so far. Still early in the process, and it is hard to know/predict if better moves may have been available. But getting good shet done on a timely basis and showing a "good sense of Urgency" (though not rushing it) gives me a confident feeling again. (though I have been fooled before)

If Stevens can hit on a draft pick and a minor trade or FA, then this will be the first good summer in a long while IMO.

So officially it's Brad Stevens :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:


I just had a sobering thought, What if I'm giving all the credit to Brad Stevens and it turns out it's Austin Ainge making all these moves. :o 8-)
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Post#165 » by return2glory » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:03 am

I felt like this would come down to Billups and Udoka over the past 10 days. Some had Cassell. I felt in the last few days that Billups had his mind set on the Blazers. It would be funny if the Blazers went with someone else.

None of us know how any of these assistant coaches will turn out as coaches. That being said, I like this hire more than if we hired a former NBA coach with an up and down coaching track record like Kidd or Dantoni.

There are a lot of things to like about Udoka’s potential as a head coach. Wishing him a lot of success.

In the end, I feel Udoka was the right hire. Hoping he bring with him one or more assistants that are former NBA coaches.
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Post#166 » by moonie_mcgee » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:03 am

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moonie_mcgee wrote:
bisme37 wrote:That tweet wasn't fake and he wasn't hacked either. He tried to give a heartfelt congrats to Ime Udoka and added in the part that wasn't remotely true. Everyone made fun of him so he took it down. Now he's saying someone else hacked into his twitter account so they could congratulate Ime Udoka. Yeah I'm so sure bro rofl. Just admit the mistake or shut up about it man, you sound even dumber now.


Ya it's kinda sad. He made an honest mistake, I'm sure, but he made it trying to dunk on the Boston which is not cool, and then lies about it as so many are prone to do. Smart dude but very unfortunate.

No, it wasn’t an honest mistake. If you played in the NBA and follow the NBA, this history in basic knowledge. He made himself look like a vindictive, uneducated tool trying to look like some smart guy. Either way, he’s a moron. And it’s an insult to the Boston Celtics and their history for equality.


Maybe it was made in the moment and he forgot about Russell KC Carr. Or maybe he was counting on the ignorant public to buy the bs and have the vanguard defend him. who knows really. All we know is he looked foolish and will be deservedly ratioed.
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Post#167 » by jfs1000d » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:15 am

dc wrote:Solid hire with a good resume, and he's legit off the Pop coaching tree (7 years as an assistant w/ the Spurs I think), so curious to see how that goes because Pop's coaching "tree" hasn't been all that impressive so far (Mike Brown, Jacque Vaughn).

So far, Budenholzer is the most successful guy from Pop's tree, and he hasn't exactly been w/o his critics. I suppose you can count Kerr as someone from Pop's tree as well, though technically he was just a player and never any kind of coach.

From the Pop tree, and that means pop gave him an endorsement. I know nothing about him. But I always like fresh guys. Last thing we needed was a coach who was a retread.

They need charisma. Hopefully this guy has it.


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Post#168 » by meatball sub » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:15 am

“I was hacked” is such a lame excuse. Why would somebody steal his phone just to tweet that the Celtics hired their first black coach. He obviously had his facts wrong. It’s ridiculous that he wouldn’t just own up to that instead of making himself look like an even bigger idiot.
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Post#169 » by sarcasma » Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:24 am

Edug27 wrote:
cloverleaf wrote:
Half-Full wrote:
You exaggerate the number of 3-point shots Marcus takes. His career average for 3-point shots is 4.7/game. The majority of the 3s he takes are when he has a good look, or when the clock is running down. He has good shooting games, and bad ones, like any player. His 3-point average last year was 33%, not especially good, but in the average range. That average dipped from the previous two years when he shot 36% and 35%. While he may take some ill advised shots, it is a common strategy to move the ball to find a player who is open for a three point shot. Coaches, including Brad Stevens, encourage players to take those open threes. While Marcus is not an elite shooter, he's good enough that he should take the shot when he gets a good look. For the most part, that is what Marcus does. Takes the three when he gets a good look. If he misses, it's not usually because he took a "bad shot," but just because he missed. An excellent 3-point shooter will can a shot 40% of the time. The other 60%? Misses. A miss is a miss, bad shot or not.


There's a reason Smart finds himself so open for 3s so often (hint: it's their opponents' defensive strategy), but he often takes them far earlier in the clock than he should, given his .330 average vs. the league's .367 average or the team's .374 average (with Smart's clunkers averaged in).


Been saying this for quite some time now. A Smart three ball is exactly what every defense wants. Same as a Draymond 3.. or a Giannas 3.. or a Ben Simmons FT.


I truly am scared to death Brad re-signs Smart to a franchise crippling 4 year $80 million contract. I dont understand why so many Celtic fans like the guys game.
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Post#170 » by Ill News » Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:35 am

Hopefully Ime Udoka could match Brad's coaching skills and even surpass it, because Brad was a damn good coach. I don't care what any of the Brad haters here say.

That said, Udoka already seems like an upgrade over Brad in terms of getting along with players. Hopefully he can motivate our core players better than Brad ever did, since our team lacked chemistry all season.
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Post#171 » by Brett43 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:45 am

If he makes Brown and Tatum more likely to stay, then that is a huge positive.
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Post#172 » by fallguy » Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:03 am

Love the hire. Expect he'll be considerably better than Stevens.
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Post#173 » by themoneyteam2 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:29 am

fallguy wrote:Love the hire. Expect he'll be considerably better than Stevens.


Highly doubt that but I hope so
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Post#174 » by LewisnotMiller » Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:32 am

Demon22 wrote:Jay Williams, professional basketball analyst:

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Holy crap...my 10 year old knows this is wrong, and she's a white girl on the other side of the planet. Is there some context missing?
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Post#175 » by LewisnotMiller » Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:35 am

moonie_mcgee wrote:
canman1971 wrote:
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Ya it's kinda sad. He made an honest mistake, I'm sure, but he made it trying to dunk on the Boston which is not cool, and then lies about it as so many are prone to do. Smart dude but very unfortunate.

No, it wasn’t an honest mistake. If you played in the NBA and follow the NBA, this history in basic knowledge. He made himself look like a vindictive, uneducated tool trying to look like some smart guy. Either way, he’s a moron. And it’s an insult to the Boston Celtics and their history for equality.


Maybe it was made in the moment and he forgot about Russell KC Carr. Or maybe he was counting on the ignorant public to buy the bs and have the vanguard defend him. who knows really. All we know is he looked foolish and will be deservedly ratioed.


I get people forgetting or being ignorant of obscure data. But Bill Russell? And FFS, Doc was our last championship coach.
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Post#176 » by MaxwellSmart » Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:50 am

Take all the players to dinner and start the chemistry building.
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Post#177 » by Ill News » Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:22 am

I'll say this about Brad, he's not wasting any time with his roster moves. Traded Kemba while the playoffs were still going on, and hired his preferred coach as soon as the Nets were eliminated. If this is how Brad conducts business, I'd say he'll make for a great POBO since it seems like he already has a vision that he wants to execute.
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Post#178 » by FlatearthZorro » Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:48 am

LewisnotMiller wrote:
Demon22 wrote:Jay Williams, professional basketball analyst:

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Holy crap...my 10 year old knows this is wrong, and she's a white girl on the other side of the planet. Is there some context missing?


Context is that Jay isn't too bright. Not the sharpest tool in the shed.

I wanna watch the presser for Udoka. And I'm looking towards the draft. Wonder if we can swing a trade for a 6th man.
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Post#179 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:09 am

leper-con wrote:
Demon22 wrote:Jay Williams, professional basketball analyst:

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this isn't true. We had the first black head coach ever in Bill Russell.

turd getting paid to know nothing.


The level of ignorance from Jay Williams is astounding.

And Kyrie thinks the earth is flat.

What a world.
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Post#180 » by grantlongforpresident » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:33 pm

Seems good

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