Jalen Suggs vs. Jalen Green

[Los_29]

Come on brother. Tell us you're trolling.

Absolutely trolling. He said none of the top 4 will be on the level of Anthony Edwards.

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Edwards scored 40+points multiple times as a teenager in the NBA, as a teenager! and has generational athleticism and built like a man. None of the top4 are built like that. Will see how Jalen Green develops physically.

Edward's numbers in college were significantly worse than what Suggs, Mobley and Cade put up this year. Edwards would be drafted no earlier than 5th.

Basketball isn't a bodybuilding competition.

[Pointgod]

Green is a beast and has superstar potential. I think he’s already shown a great skill set and can contribute day one.

[TheFutureMM]

I'm almost certain Mobley doesn't drop past the Cavs at 3 so it's probably going to be one of these 2. If the Rockets take Green 2nd we probably end up with Suggs. If the Rockets take Mobley the Cavs probably go Suggs and we end up with Green unless a team trades up for the Cavs pick. I doubt the Rockets would take Suggs but if that happened, the Cavs probably still take Mobley 3rd and we end up with Green.

Mobley getting passed on by both the Rockets and Cavs doesn't seem like a very likely scenario. As someone who prefers Green at 4 I'm glad Mobley likely won't be there for us. He will probably end up in the upper echelon of bigs but it really is a guard/wing league now. Green/Suggs reaching their ceiling is way more valuable from a winning perspective than Mobley reaching his, and whoever ends up with us is in one of the best development programs in the league.

Why wouldn't CLE take Green?

By all accounts, it's Sexton they want to move on from, so Garland @ PG and Green @ SG seems like the more natural fit.

Suggs' playmaking is a better fit with Garland, who isn't really a playmaker. The Cavs had a major lack of playmaking this season which was probably why they had one of the worst net ratings in the league. Suggs is also considered the better prospect defensively. I think Suggs at PG and Garland at SG would be a pretty good fit together.

Funny because I see it the other way. If Cleveland doesn't move the pick, and they are left with Suggs/Green, I could see them taking Green and rationalizing a small-ball line-up of Garland/Sexton/Green. Harder to justify when Suggs is a little shorter than Green.

As for the Ben Simmons trade talk, I was actually on that hype train pre-moving up in the lottery. At 7-9 I would have been open to taking a chance on him but now that we are sitting at 4, I'd rather take a shot on one of Suggs/Green.

[Los_29]

Green is a beast and has superstar potential. I think he’s already shown a great skill set and can contribute day one.

He has huge potential but I think of the top 4, him and Mobley are the least ready. From what I saw of Green, his defense was pretty bad and he needs to tighten up his handles. His lack of defense alone would mean he probably wouldn't get much playing time right away if he were drafted by us. Whereas I think Suggs would immediately get 20-25mpg because he's already good at the things this organization values the most.

[ash_k]

Absolutely trolling. He said none of the top 4 will be on the level of Anthony Edwards.

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Edwards scored 40+points multiple times as a teenager in the NBA, as a teenager! and has generational athleticism and built like a man. None of the top4 are built like that. Will see how Jalen Green develops physically.
*Edwards is younger than Jalen Suggs, Mobley

Edward's numbers in college were significantly worse than what Suggs, Mobley and Cade put up this year. Edwards would be drafted no earlier than 5th.

Basketball isn't a bodybuilding competition.

hyperbole aside, you still need a certain amount of layers to compete. Right now, Mobley would get pushed around by Embiid, Vucevic, Capela.
Edwards was a scorer in College and with his generational athleticism and size, all translated in NBA.
Cade will most likely be allowed to take 10+ 3 per game by Casey, but physically nothing Generational there. Cade is just a month younger than Edwards.

[BillyGM]

I would go with Suggs

[mihaic]

So since RGM suggests to pick suggs over green, I should expect Masai to want Green.

In any case unless one of the top 3 drafting teams makes a surprise pick, the Raptors will not be able to choose which Jalen to pick anyways unless they trade up.

[Los_29]

Maybe you should watch more NBA games.
Edwards scored 40+points multiple times as a teenager in the NBA, as a teenager! and has generational athleticism and built like a man. None of the top4 are built like that. Will see how Jalen Green develops physically.
*Edwards is younger than Jalen Suggs, Mobley

Edward's numbers in college were significantly worse than what Suggs, Mobley and Cade put up this year. Edwards would be drafted no earlier than 5th.

Basketball isn't a bodybuilding competition.

hyperbole aside, you still need a certain amount of layers to compete. Right now, Mobley would get pushed around by Embiid, Vucevic, Capela.
Edwards was a scorer in College and with his generational athleticism and size, all translated in NBA.
Cade will most likely be allowed to take 10+ 3 per game by Casey, but physically nothing Generational there. Cade is just a month younger than Edwards.

Agreed and he's not really NBA ready anyway but the potential is there and there aren't many traditional bigs anymore for Mobley to get pushed around by anyway.

Edwards wasn't an efficient scorer in college though. His TS% was 52 which is quite bad. Suggs and Cade were in the high 50's. And we will see if Edward's game translates to the NBA. You're acting like he set the world on fire when in reality he still has a lot of weaknesses he needs to address. Not to mention, he put up those numbers on a horrendously bad team. He's got potential and he's a great athlete but still lots of work to do.

Edwards isn't generational in anything. He was part of one of the weakest rookie classes in the last 10-15 years. Luka isn't a generational athlete but he's a generational player. Athleticism only goes so far. Cade isn't a great athlete but he's a great player who does a lot of things exceptionally well.

[Pointgod]

Green is a beast and has superstar potential. I think he’s already shown a great skill set and can contribute day one.

He has huge potential but I think of the top 4, him and Mobley are the least ready. From what I saw of Green, his defense was pretty bad and he needs to tighten up his handles. His lack of defense alone would mean he probably wouldn't get much playing time right away if he were drafted by us. Whereas I think Suggs would immediately get 20-25mpg because he's already good at the things this organization values the most.

I don’t think that the defense will necessarily hinder a player like Green on a defence focused team like the Raptors. Offensively he’s there which means that he’s a player that will hit open shots and get to the rim. Plus he has the superstar potential. Raptors need a superstar desperately. A lot of what I hear about Green reminds me of what we heard about LaMelo. There’s something to be said for playing against grown men and excelling. I wouldn’t be surprised if Green comes off the bench but is starting by the halfway point of the season.

This isn’t to say that Suggs isn’t going to be a good or great player from the start. He kind of reminds me of Deron Williams. But if the choice is between Suggs and Green or Suggs and Mobley go for the home run every time. Green is good enough to be the first overall pick.

[alpngso]

Had no idea Jalen Suggs was related to the NFL player Terrell Suggs. Good genes i guess.

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maybe they go with suggs because they want a true floor general/leader and green now falls to the raptors.

[Chandan]

Green is a beast and has superstar potential. I think he’s already shown a great skill set and can contribute day one.

He has huge potential but I think of the top 4, him and Mobley are the least ready. From what I saw of Green, his defense was pretty bad and he needs to tighten up his handles. His lack of defense alone would mean he probably wouldn't get much playing time right away if he were drafted by us. Whereas I think Suggs would immediately get 20-25mpg because he's already good at the things this organization values the most.

I don’t think that the defense will necessarily hinder a player like Green on a defence focused team like the Raptors. Offensively he’s there which means that he’s a player that will hit open shots and get to the rim. Plus he has the superstar potential. Raptors need a superstar desperately. A lot of what I hear about Green reminds me of what we heard about LaMelo. There’s something to be said for playing against grown men and excelling. I wouldn’t be surprised if Green comes off the bench but is starting by the halfway point of the season.

This isn’t to say that Suggs isn’t going to be a good or great player from the start. He kind of reminds me of Deron Williams. But if the choice is between Suggs and Green or Suggs and Mobley go for the home run every time. Green is good enough to be the first overall pick.

i did mention Deron williams a while back. Suggs is 3 inches taller though that's a game changer.
and let's not forget Deron was at one point (2 -3 season?) neck in neck against Chris Paul as the best point guard in the league.

[Raps in 4]

So since RGM suggests to pick suggs over green, I should expect Masai to want Green.

In any case unless one of the top 3 drafting teams makes a surprise pick, the Raptors will not be able to choose which Jalen to pick anyways unless they trade up.

Most teams will probably favour Green as he has the higher ceiling, but we'll see.

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maybe they go with suggs because they want a true floor general/leader and green now falls to the raptors.

Doesn't that make it more likely they pick Green as Garland is their PG?

[YelloC]

Maybe you should watch more NBA games.
Edwards scored 40+points multiple times as a teenager in the NBA, as a teenager! and has generational athleticism and built like a man. None of the top4 are built like that. Will see how Jalen Green develops physically.
*Edwards is younger than Jalen Suggs, Mobley

Edward's numbers in college were significantly worse than what Suggs, Mobley and Cade put up this year. Edwards would be drafted no earlier than 5th.

Basketball isn't a bodybuilding competition.

hyperbole aside, you still need a certain amount of layers to compete. Right now, Mobley would get pushed around by Embiid, Vucevic, Capela.
Edwards was a scorer in College and with his generational athleticism and size, all translated in NBA.
Cade will most likely be allowed to take 10+ 3 per game by Casey, but physically nothing Generational there. Cade is just a month younger than Edwards.

Cade kind of reminds me of Grant Hill. He might become a better facilitator because he will be slotted in as a point forward. They even seem to move in the same way.

[TheRaptor!]

No way Jalen Green falls to us, he's at minimum a top 3 pick, on anyone's mock draft. If you pass up on him, you're passing up on a 30+ pt scorer for the next decade.

So is this guy gonna reach Tatum levels?

[Chandan]

https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/1a0zFnrlE0BMXIiLey4LbfT9XndKXY1HYQWMMvfON5sU/mobilebasic

boy this is a treat to read.
I love that football pass btw, it allows bigs to catch the ball high and finishing.

[EliteSmarts]

No way Jalen Green falls to us, he's at minimum a top 3 pick, on anyone's mock draft. If you pass up on him, you're passing up on a 30+ pt scorer for the next decade.

So is this guy gonna reach Tatum levels?

I believe so yes. I see Donovan Mitchell caliber player, maybe even better.

Def consistent top 10 player!

[ItsDanger]

Green is a better scorer and a good fit for our roster's needs. In the last minute, I'm confident he can create in the half court (he has elite potential there). His defense will need at least one season to get to adequate for Nurse though. Suggs is more of a combo guard that really fits other rosters better. I wouldn't call him a guy you can count on to get that bucket at any time although he could improve there. Defensively, he's close to being ready for our system now.

[RoyceDa59]

1. Cunningham
2. Mobley
3. Suggs
4. Green

That’s how I rank them, and that’s the order I think they’ll get drafted.