Jonathan Kuminga...Beast or Bust?

[BlazersBroncos]

I might be insane, but I dont think he is a better prospect than JT Thor.

Then again, I am a Thor Whore.

Thats what the JT fanclub is going to be called.

[NO-KG-AI]

I get the Marvin Williams vibe from him. He doesn’t feel particularly explosive in terms of athleticism or skills when I watch him.

[livingoffgrass]

ORL got #5 and, to this point, most have the draft with Cade alone at #1, The next 3 debatable but still an island of 3, and then Kuminga.

He's obviously a physical marvel but so are a lot of guys...for those of you who have followed him, does he have the "Mamba/Giannis" stuff between his ears to refuse to lose or is he just a combine superstar?

In my mind, as an ORL fan, the new coaching staff will have the biggest impact on what kind of raw materials we are able to draft.

I think if I'm Orlando I just take Barnes. Kuminga might even still be there @ 8. Barnes + Isaac (if healthy) would terrorize wings league wide. And they're probably still a couple lotto picks away from completing the rebuild regardless of who they draft.

[ROballer]

I own the #5, #6, #7 and #9 picks in the Lakers board Fantasy Dynasty League, soon to be 8th year.
Don't care about points, 3's and FT%. Going strong on everything else.


For obvious reasons he's on my radar(duh, the first 4 are a lock) with one of my 4 first round picks but I'm getting Jarrett Culver vibes. I fell for him a couple years back.
Convince me he's not Culver.

[reamily]

He can get taller? If not then youre jarret culver is spot but he's just an inch or two taller..

[BlazersBroncos]

For obvious reasons he's on my radar(duh, the first 4 are a lock) with one of my 4 first round picks but I'm getting Jarrett Culver vibes. I fell for him a couple years back.
Convince me he's not Culver.

He isnt Culver.

But he might be the forward version of Mo Bamba.

[Duke4life831]

As the mayor of Kuminga island, let me prop my guy up some. Lets just get the obvious stuff out of the way. 6'8 with a 6'11 or 7' wingspan. The you look at his frame, and watch how he moves in the open court, the dude is going to be an A+ in the physical department.

Im expecting a Jaylen Brown-esque development path for him. Just like Brown, Kuminga is pretty raw. But the physical features and the skill foundation is visibly there. Like Brown at the same stage, solid form on the jumper, no major hitches to fix, just inconsistent results. I think within a few years that jumper is going to be good. So I think after his rookie year, people will be low on him, then 2nd and 3rd year we will see the defense come around and flashes of the offense. Then around year 3 or 4 we see the big jump on the offensive end.

With that said I think Kuminga has higher potential than Brown. He is bigger than Brown and even with being bigger than Brown, I think his handle is much better than Brown's at the same stage.

Im going to ride or die on the Kuminga island. I get why he isn't mentioned as much as the other top 4 guys. I think all 4 are safer picks, Kuminga is the biggest project out of all of them. Again his jumper isn't consistent and neither is his defense. But again I love the physical features and the skill foundation for him going forward. In today's day and age, a versatile 6'8 wing is super valuable. I think Kuminga can progress into something pretty damn good.

[Justwar]

If I told everyone that he is two to three years older than listed, how does it change your feelings

[God Squad]

I own the #5, #6, #7 and #9 picks in the Lakers board Fantasy Dynasty League, soon to be 8th year.
Don't care about points, 3's and FT%. Going strong on everything else.


For obvious reasons he's on my radar(duh, the first 4 are a lock) with one of my 4 first round picks but I'm getting Jarrett Culver vibes. I fell for him a couple years back.
Convince me he's not Culver.

Wrong thread bud. Don't bring fantasy here.

[God Squad]

As the mayor of Kuminga island, let me prop my guy up some. Lets just get the obvious stuff out of the way. 6'8 with a 6'11 or 7' wingspan. The you look at his frame, and watch how he moves in the open court, the dude is going to be an A+ in the physical department.

Im expecting a Jaylen Brown-esque development path for him. Just like Brown, Kuminga is pretty raw. But the physical features and the skill foundation is visibly there. Like Brown at the same stage, solid form on the jumper, no major hitches to fix, just inconsistent results. I think within a few years that jumper is going to be good. So I think after his rookie year, people will be low on him, then 2nd and 3rd year we will see the defense come around and flashes of the offense. Then around year 3 or 4 we see the big jump on the offensive end.

With that said I think Kuminga has higher potential than Brown. He is bigger than Brown and even with being bigger than Brown, I think his handle is much better than Brown's at the same stage.

Im going to ride or die on the Kuminga island. I get why he isn't mentioned as much as the other top 4 guys. I think all 4 are safer picks, Kuminga is the biggest project out of all of them. Again his jumper isn't consistent and neither is his defense. But again I love the physical features and the skill foundation for him going forward. In today's day and age, a versatile 6'8 wing is super valuable. I think Kuminga can progress into something pretty damn good.

What's the highest you'd take him?

[God Squad]

If I told everyone that he is two to three years older than listed, how does it change your feelings

Any evidence to support your claim or just speaking out the A**?

[Duke4life831]

As the mayor of Kuminga island, let me prop my guy up some. Lets just get the obvious stuff out of the way. 6'8 with a 6'11 or 7' wingspan. The you look at his frame, and watch how he moves in the open court, the dude is going to be an A+ in the physical department.

Im expecting a Jaylen Brown-esque development path for him. Just like Brown, Kuminga is pretty raw. But the physical features and the skill foundation is visibly there. Like Brown at the same stage, solid form on the jumper, no major hitches to fix, just inconsistent results. I think within a few years that jumper is going to be good. So I think after his rookie year, people will be low on him, then 2nd and 3rd year we will see the defense come around and flashes of the offense. Then around year 3 or 4 we see the big jump on the offensive end.

With that said I think Kuminga has higher potential than Brown. He is bigger than Brown and even with being bigger than Brown, I think his handle is much better than Brown's at the same stage.

Im going to ride or die on the Kuminga island. I get why he isn't mentioned as much as the other top 4 guys. I think all 4 are safer picks, Kuminga is the biggest project out of all of them. Again his jumper isn't consistent and neither is his defense. But again I love the physical features and the skill foundation for him going forward. In today's day and age, a versatile 6'8 wing is super valuable. I think Kuminga can progress into something pretty damn good.

What's the highest you'd take him?

Probably 3. He's my boy and I like his ceiling as much as anyones except for Green. But he is the biggest project out of the group. Even if a team likes him as much as I do, it would be pointless to take him any higher than 3 (4th probably). If I was sitting at 1 or 2, Id trade down to take him. I think its a pretty safe bet he will be sitting there at 5.

[God Squad]

As the mayor of Kuminga island, let me prop my guy up some. Lets just get the obvious stuff out of the way. 6'8 with a 6'11 or 7' wingspan. The you look at his frame, and watch how he moves in the open court, the dude is going to be an A+ in the physical department.

Im expecting a Jaylen Brown-esque development path for him. Just like Brown, Kuminga is pretty raw. But the physical features and the skill foundation is visibly there. Like Brown at the same stage, solid form on the jumper, no major hitches to fix, just inconsistent results. I think within a few years that jumper is going to be good. So I think after his rookie year, people will be low on him, then 2nd and 3rd year we will see the defense come around and flashes of the offense. Then around year 3 or 4 we see the big jump on the offensive end.

With that said I think Kuminga has higher potential than Brown. He is bigger than Brown and even with being bigger than Brown, I think his handle is much better than Brown's at the same stage.

Im going to ride or die on the Kuminga island. I get why he isn't mentioned as much as the other top 4 guys. I think all 4 are safer picks, Kuminga is the biggest project out of all of them. Again his jumper isn't consistent and neither is his defense. But again I love the physical features and the skill foundation for him going forward. In today's day and age, a versatile 6'8 wing is super valuable. I think Kuminga can progress into something pretty damn good.

What's the highest you'd take him?

Probably 3. He's my boy and I like his ceiling as much as anyones except for Green. But he is the biggest project out of the group. Even if a team likes him as much as I do, it would be pointless to take him any higher than 3 (4th probably). If I was sitting at 1 or 2, Id trade down to take him. I think its a pretty safe bet he will be sitting there at 5.

I have little doubt he'll be available at 5. MAYBE Cleveland bites and takes him 3rd. I just have a hard time thinking about drafting such a raw prospect top 4. When essentially you're going to have to teach him to play basketball at this level. Kuminga looks like the typical all tools prospect people fall in love with, but with little substance and numbers to back it up.

One could argue he's this years
2020 - Wiseman/Okoro
2019 - Culver (looked good in NCAA)
2018 - Knox

The list goes on. Mind you I like him much better than all of the above due to age and his first few ignite games looking promising. But the way he moved with the ball and off ball, compared to Green was a stark contrast agility wise. You say his ceiling is Brown, but at times I see OG or Pascal.

[The Master]

One could argue he's this years
2020 - Wiseman/Okoro
2019 - Culver (looked good in NCAA)
2018 - Knox

The list goes on. Mind you I like him much better than all of the above due to age and his first few ignite games looking promising. But the way he moved with the ball and off ball, compared to Green was a stark contrast agility wise. You say his ceiling is Brown, but at times I see OG or Pascal.

Naah, Culver has never been A-level athlete, nor was Knox.

Kuminga is a better prospect than Brown was, he's a year younger in his draft season, better playmaker and ballhandler, and his post scoring potential makes him probably a slightly better scorer as well (50TS% on G-League level is probably more impressive than 52TS% in Pac-12), as well his shooting mechanics are way better than his shooting percentages would suggest. That doesn't mean he'll improve in a way Brown has improved, but all things considered he's a clearly better prospect than most of these non-shooting athletic wings. And that doesn't mean he'll become a star, but he's a sure top5 pick in most drafts with his profile.

I'm not that much terrified with his lack of jumpshot considering his mechanics and a level of shooting coaching we have in the NBA.

[kobyz]

His ceiling is Carmelo Anthony

[Ruzious]

What's the highest you'd take him?

Probably 3. He's my boy and I like his ceiling as much as anyones except for Green. But he is the biggest project out of the group. Even if a team likes him as much as I do, it would be pointless to take him any higher than 3 (4th probably). If I was sitting at 1 or 2, Id trade down to take him. I think its a pretty safe bet he will be sitting there at 5.

I have little doubt he'll be available at 5. MAYBE Cleveland bites and takes him 3rd. I just have a hard time thinking about drafting such a raw prospect top 4. When essentially you're going to have to teach him to play basketball at this level. Kuminga looks like the typical all tools prospect people fall in love with, but with little substance and numbers to back it up.

One could argue he's this years
2020 - Wiseman/Okoro
2019 - Culver (looked good in NCAA)
2018 - Knox

The list goes on. Mind you I like him much better than all of the above due to age and his first few ignite games looking promising. But the way he moved with the ball and off ball, compared to Green was a stark contrast agility wise. You say his ceiling is Brown, but at times I see OG or Pascal.

How does he compare to Patrick Williams?

[Justwar]

If I told everyone that he is two to three years older than listed, how does it change your feelings

Any evidence to support your claim or just speaking out the A**?

Seen some documents from someone close to the situation. The whole African human trafficking is legit. Lots of falsified documents.

[clyde21]

If I told everyone that he is two to three years older than listed, how does it change your feelings

you can say that about pretty much any prospect? don't get your point here.

[Duke4life831]

Ya unless some credible evidence comes out about his age, I dont get the point of talking about it.

[Big J]

Reminds me of Tim Thomas. Absolutely oozing with "potential". He'll have games where he puts up 35 15 8 3 & 2, and people will say if he could only do that all the time he'd be the best player on the planet.