Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor

[DaGawd]

i'm trying to find a way not to max out sexton and randle. if i have to believe in obi to do so, so be it lol. please work with me. because honestly, does that sound like a championship duo to you ?

Realistically theres no championship duo otw in free agency for awhile… Knicks are better off locking up good young players for now and being respectable until that time comes.. clear out cap like crazy when that summer arrives

[3toheadmelo]

i'm trying to find a way not to max out sexton and randle. if i have to believe in obi to do so, so be it lol. please work with me. because honestly, does that sound like a championship duo to you ?

what about in 2022:

Sexton
3/D 2 guard
RJ
KD
Randle

IQ off the bench

after Kyrie goes awall again next year and Harden gets fatter...maybe KD wants out?

KD is always going at Knicks fans on Twitter. If he were to leave Brooklyn he def ain’t coming here

[mpharris36]

not touching Kevin Love's 30 MM in 2022-23 for sexton. No way. Would rather give up middle of the pack picks then do that.

[moocow007]

Does he move the needle enough to get a Superstar to come here? Randle, Sexton ,RJ. Would a Superstar think that is enough?

One of the most interesting things about a Sexton move is the Knicks could have room for TWO near maxes in addition to him.

I would think that would be a very interesting team for sure. But it still depends. Can Randle replicated this past season? Will RJ take another step forward? Can Sexton show that he can respond to Thibs and unlock another level to his game? If so, hell yeah.

[god shammgod]

i'm trying to find a way not to max out sexton and randle. if i have to believe in obi to do so, so be it lol. please work with me. because honestly, does that sound like a championship duo to you ?

what about in 2022:

Sexton
3/D 2 guard
RJ
KD
Randle

IQ off the bench

after Kyrie goes awall again next year and Harden gets fatter...maybe KD wants out?

a lot of plans work if you can add kd to them

[nykballa2k4]

i don't know. i understand the concept that you have to trade for these kind of guys before they break out or they're not available, i just don't believe. something about him screams this is a mistake. lol

smallerish guys always have more risk. But if you look at Sexton's first 3 years to Booker's first 3 years...they are very similar with a slight edge to Sexton for efficiency.

To me the big red flag is that Cavaliers are not wanting to max him. They drafted him because they were high on him. They see him in practice, know what he is like, know what his work ethic is.

If they are willing to trade him for peanuts, it's because they know something we don't.

If they are looking to move him, and say Love, for KP, I can understand that. I don't see us being able to give them anything they want outside of Barrett for him.

[seren]

I would go for him if it doesn't cost us more than cap space and this year's picks. I wouldn't mortgage the future for him. If it comes down to taking on Love, it is not a big deal. We have the cap space for his first year. Next year if you need the cap space, you either more Love giving up a pick or stretch his contract. Keep him if you don't need the cap space.

[ENYK]

One of the reasons I am all for it is cause our options are very limited

We can either overpay for Lonzo/Schroder/Reggie Jackson

Or take a gamble on a 22 year old putting up Devin Booker numbers

It’s a no brainer for me

Yeah, he's really the lesser of all evils. We're either tying up money into older mediocre players to win now or we're taking a chance on a very young player who has proven he can create his own offense from the perimeter, the one thing the Knicks don't have.

If it doesn't work out, barring severe injury, he'll still be tradeable in 2-3 years. It's an arms race in today's NBA, defense and playmaking are taking a back seat.

[Jeff Van Gully]

I’d be reluctant to trade Obi after how he looked in the playoffs and late in the season. But if push come to shove for Sexton I think I’d have to do it since he’s backing up Randle here and probably will never be given the lion share of minutes he needs to really make an impact

i don't know. i think we can find a guard without giving up so much.

[mpharris36]

i'm trying to find a way not to max out sexton and randle. if i have to believe in obi to do so, so be it lol. please work with me. because honestly, does that sound like a championship duo to you ?

what about in 2022:

Sexton
3/D 2 guard
RJ
KD
Randle

IQ off the bench

after Kyrie goes awall again next year and Harden gets fatter...maybe KD wants out?

a lot of plans work if you can add kd to them

my point is if you with Sexton/Randle cap holds you still would be able to fit a max guy in before you have to pay everyone. And I forgot about Mitch too.

You would just have

RJ at 11 MM
Obi at 5.3 MM (unless he is traded
IQ at 2.3 MM

no one else

Cap holds:

Randle 30 MM
Sexton 19 MM
Mitch 3.4 MM



you would basically have near a max cap spot. Then you could sign the max player and go over the cap to sign Randle/Sexton/Mitch.

[KnixinSix]

i don't know. i understand the concept that you have to trade for these kind of guys before they break out or they're not available, i just don't believe. something about him screams this is a mistake. lol

smallerish guys always have more risk. But if you look at Sexton's first 3 years to Booker's first 3 years...they are very similar with a slight edge to Sexton for efficiency.

To me the big red flag is that Cavaliers are not wanting to max him. They drafted him because they were high on him. They see him in practice, know what he is like, know what his work ethic is.

If they are willing to trade him for peanuts, it's because they know something we don't.

If they are looking to move him, and say Love, for KP, I can understand that. I don't see us being able to give them anything they want outside of Barrett for him.

I think they are playing the long game here and think the guy they will get at 3 in this stacked draft will be a more complete player than Sexton is making him expendable. Couple that with him likely getting a max deal they are seeing if they can turn him into more picks. Cleveland probably knows they aren't getting superstars to head over there and will go the build through the draft route.

[snadler]

Nope not interested wouldn’t want him for free..a selfish player that teammates hate playing with that was unable to even make the cavs competitive..

[nykballa2k4]

smallerish guys always have more risk. But if you look at Sexton's first 3 years to Booker's first 3 years...they are very similar with a slight edge to Sexton for efficiency.

To me the big red flag is that Cavaliers are not wanting to max him. They drafted him because they were high on him. They see him in practice, know what he is like, know what his work ethic is.

If they are willing to trade him for peanuts, it's because they know something we don't.

If they are looking to move him, and say Love, for KP, I can understand that. I don't see us being able to give them anything they want outside of Barrett for him.

I think they are playing the long game here and think the guy they will get at 3 in this stacked draft will be a more complete player than Sexton is making him expendable. Couple that with him likely getting a max deal they are seeing if they can turn him into more picks. Cleveland probably knows they aren't getting superstars to head over there and will go the build through the draft route.

I get that, but if you can move Love by paying future picks, current role players, etc that's the move. Also assuming that they see Garland as better than Sexton.

[mpharris36]

i don't know. i understand the concept that you have to trade for these kind of guys before they break out or they're not available, i just don't believe. something about him screams this is a mistake. lol

smallerish guys always have more risk. But if you look at Sexton's first 3 years to Booker's first 3 years...they are very similar with a slight edge to Sexton for efficiency.

To me the big red flag is that Cavaliers are not wanting to max him. They drafted him because they were high on him. They see him in practice, know what he is like, know what his work ethic is.

If they are willing to trade him for peanuts, it's because they know something we don't.

If they are looking to move him, and say Love, for KP, I can understand that. I don't see us being able to give them anything they want outside of Barrett for him.

I think at this point they are just keeping there options open. There is a good chance they are taking one of the Jalen's now in the draft and once you max him you limit the amount of trade partners you can get. So makes sense to just be patient. if they go with Green or Suggs sexton because very available IMO.

[sol537]

1) Obi + IQ + 32nd for Sexton
2) Take on Wiggins's Salary + 7 + 14 from GSW for 19 + 21
3) Draft Mitchell at #7 and BPA at #14

Mitchell + Sexton + RJ + Randle + Robinson

Let's gooooooo

[mpharris36]

Nope not interested wouldn’t want him for free..a selfish player that teammates hate playing with that was unable to even make the cavs competitive..

I'm not saying one player is like the other but there were legit rumors the hawks hated playing with Trae Young earlier in the year because he dominated the ball.

[snadler]

Amazing when people post this stuff without realizing some important information, and ask themselves why would an awful cavs team want to trade a 22 year old that averaged 24 points a game. But as usual are solely looking at stats, for one players hated him, he’s ball dominant and selfish and because he’s put up numbers on a really bad team his agent is going to seek max money. So with this knowledge explain why or how he’s a GOOD fit for the knicks?

[snadler]

1) Obi + IQ + 32nd for Sexton
2) Take on Wiggins's Salary + 7 + 14 from GSW for 19 + 21
3) Draft Mitchell at #7 and BPA at #14

Mitchell + Sexton + RJ + Randle + Robinson

Let's gooooooo

No to pretty much everything..you want to pay sexton max money..I wouldn’t take him as a free agent no less trade assets for him..and why is a playoff team with already 7 picks taking on Wiggins contract for more picks..

[dakomish23]

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[Appleshampoo]

Amazing when people post this stuff without realizing some important information, and ask themselves why would an awful cavs team want to trade a 22 year old that averaged 24 points a game. But as usual are solely looking at stats, for one players hated him, he’s ball dominant and selfish and because he’s put up numbers on a really bad team his agent is going to seek max money. So with this knowledge explain why or how he’s a GOOD fit for the knicks?

The Cavs drafted a more traditional point guard in Darius Garland. They'd rather work with Garland and commit to Jarrett Allen. Also, it's Cleveland who is small market and paying Kevin Love $30 million. They're more inclined to trade now instead of Sexton walking for nothing. If the Cavs drafted RJ Barrett or DeAndre Hunter would they have no interest in keeping Colin Sexton? Maybe not.