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Jalen Suggs vs. Jalen Green

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Who do we get at #4

Jalen Suggs
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Jalen Green
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Post#361 » by Son Goku 25 » Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:41 pm

I hate the cavs man, every *** year they get granted a top pick in the draft it's sickening.

They're about to trade their pick and a piece to okc or something I just hope they don't ** up our chances at our top desired pick.
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Post#362 » by alpngso » Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:56 pm

Son Goku 25 wrote:I hate the cavs man, every *** year they get granted a top pick in the draft it's sickening.

They're about to trade their pick and a piece to okc or something I just hope they don't ** up our chances at our top desired pick.


Contrary to popular belief they actually dropped the past two seasons

2020: Top 2 seed to no.5 pick (pick: Okoro)
2019: Top 2 seed to no.5 pick (pick: Garland)
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Post#363 » by Bobby Plump » Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:48 pm

The two Jalens would be awesome. Mobley too, but the absolute best choice/fit for the Raptors would be Scottie Barnes. He's gotta lot of tools and then there's that wingspan.
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Post#364 » by h4rrison » Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:48 pm

Bobby Plump wrote:The two Jalens would be awesome. Mobley too, but the absolute best choice/fit for the Raptors would be Scottie Barnes. He's gotta lot of tools and then there's that wingspan.


Barnes is a utility player not a star. He cannot shoot or score. Anyone who takes him before Jalens/Mobley should be fired.
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Post#365 » by kieferli » Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:21 pm

Lol we don’t have choice , we are the last one to pick whoever left in top 4 players . I am not surprised Mobley will end up drop to us.
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Post#366 » by NotMyKawhi » Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:38 pm

Just accept we are getting Suggs or Kuminga.

for me, clear top 3, clear top 5. 2 tiers
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Post#367 » by Brinbe » Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:38 pm

I don't really see it with Barnes either. No way would I pick him above any of the top 4.
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Post#368 » by Pooper » Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:51 pm

I can't wait until we look at this draft three years from now as it is really strong draft. Hopefully we're the one's laughing and not the one's getting laughed at.
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Post#369 » by LoveMyRaps » Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:55 pm

I'd legit vomit if we draft Barnes.
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Post#370 » by inonba » Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:51 pm

Bobby Plump wrote:The two Jalens would be awesome. Mobley too, but the absolute best choice/fit for the Raptors would be Scottie Barnes. He's gotta lot of tools and then there's that wingspan.


I actually agree. Scottie Barnes fits the Raptors. Why? Because he's the type of player we typically draft in the 20s. So with the 4 pick in a stacked draft class, let's trade down and pick a guy we typically find at the end of the round.....
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Post#371 » by CANsportsguru » Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:10 am

The top 4 are all talented however I feel like Suggs is the only one I would say will have a Hall of Fame career. His BBIQ is off the charts, he's a natural born leader and winner, he competes on both ends of the floor. His game transitions well into the NBA and he's NBA ready now. While Green and Mobley could turn out to be better they still need a lot of work. Both are vastly undersized and would need to put on significant muscle.
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Post#372 » by Blood Orange » Sat Jun 26, 2021 1:12 am

I don't mind either player really, but Suggs fixes 2 problems for our team. With the exodus of Lowry, he becomes that much needed real playmaker which this team desperately desires to truly unlock and run our offence efficiently. And he's also able to provide that defensively versatility to guard the larger SGs in the league to help relieve FVV of his height disadvantage on the defensive end. Again, I like both Green and Suggs and don't mind if it's one or the other but Suggs makes more sense for our team, atm.
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Post#373 » by Basketball_Jones » Sat Jun 26, 2021 1:31 am

Yeah kind of leaning towards Suggs now. Would be nice to just pick the guy that can play his ass off rather then potential.
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Post#374 » by alpngso » Sat Jun 26, 2021 2:02 am

It will be Suggs and he’ll fit the Raptors better.
But Green is a better prospect.
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Post#375 » by DelAbbot » Sat Jun 26, 2021 2:56 am

After watching more prospect analysis, I see no scenario under which Jalen Green falls outside of top 3. We ain't getting him.
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Post#376 » by EliteSmarts » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:51 am

RoyceDa59 wrote:1. Cunningham
2. Mobley
3. Suggs
4. Green

That’s how I rank them, and that’s the order I think they’ll get drafted.

1. Jalen Green
2. Cade Cunningham
3. Jalen Suggs
4. Evan Mobley

That's how I rank these players

Jalen Green = Vince Carter/TMac 2.0, and having wing like that in today NBA is DANGEROUS. He can get you bucket anytime, think of today NBA stars like Devin Booker & Dononvan Mitchell!

Cade Cunningham = He's basically Grant Hill 2.0, less scoring ability than HIll but more playmaking than HIll. Really high floor and in today NBA I easily he a superstar!

Jalen Suggs = Mixture of Tony Parker/Chauney BIillups/Brandon Roy

Evan Mobley = If this was Pre 21st century Basketball. Mobley would be my #2 prospect and Cade Cunningham would be my #1. But it isn't and were playing 2021 NBA Basketball of pace and space, more focus on playmaking and shooting and guards/wings having more freedom to shine!

Evan Mobley is talented player, mixture of Bosh/Ant Davis. But you can't win in today NBA having those guys being your #1 option. (Embiid and Jokic have chance to prove me wrong as well.)



TIER 1
GJalen Green
G/F Cade Cunningham

TIER 2
G Jalen Suggs
C Evan Mobley

TIER 3
F Scottie Barnes
F Jonathan Kuminga
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Post#377 » by EliteSmarts » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:53 am

CANsportsguru wrote:The top 4 are all talented however I feel like Suggs is the only one I would say will have a Hall of Fame career. His BBIQ is off the charts, he's a natural born leader and winner, he competes on both ends of the floor. His game transitions well into the NBA and he's NBA ready now. While Green and Mobley could turn out to be better they still need a lot of work. Both are vastly undersized and would need to put on significant muscle.

Suggs has highest floor in this draft to just be a star player. But to me, Green is going to be best player in this draft. His skillset is fantastic in today NBA!
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Post#378 » by EliteSmarts » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:54 am

DelAbbot wrote:After watching more prospect analysis, I see no scenario under which Jalen Green falls outside of top 3. We ain't getting him.

I think he's lock for Houston Rockets. Replace Harden with another scoring wing. Fantastic start for rebuild!
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Post#379 » by Blood Orange » Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:01 am

EliteSmarts wrote:
RoyceDa59 wrote:1. Cunningham
2. Mobley
3. Suggs
4. Green

That’s how I rank them, and that’s the order I think they’ll get drafted.

1. Jalen Green
2. Cade Cunningham
3. Jalen Suggs
4. Evan Mobley

That's how I rank these players

Jalen Green = Vince Carter/TMac 2.0, and having wing like that in today NBA is DANGEROUS. He can get you bucket anytime, think of today NBA stars like Devin Booker & Dononvan Mitchell!

Cade Cunningham = He's basically Grant Hill 2.0, less scoring ability than HIll but more playmaking than HIll. Really high floor and in today NBA I easily he a superstar!

Jalen Suggs = Mixture of Tony Parker/Chauney BIillups/Brandon Roy

Evan Mobley = If this was Pre 21st century Basketball. Mobley would be my #2 prospect and Cade Cunningham would be my #1. But it isn't and were playing 2021 NBA Basketball of pace and space, more focus on playmaking and shooting and guards/wings having more freedom to shine!

Evan Mobley is talented player, mixture of Bosh/Ant Davis. But you can't win in today NBA having those guys being your #1 option. (Embiid and Jokic have chance to prove me wrong as well.)


TIER 1
GJalen Green
G/F Cade Cunningham

TIER 2
G Jalen Suggs
C Evan Mobley

TIER 3
F Scottie Barnes
F Jonathan Kuminga


Cade is going to be a good player and all but he plays nothing alike Grant Hill. They score in completely different ways, as Grant Hill used more his quickness and athleticism to score, Cade uses his size, and strength to get baskets. The only thing they have in common is that they're both tall. I think that's a lazy comparison people are making.
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Post#380 » by disoblige » Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:39 am

DelAbbot wrote:After watching more prospect analysis, I see no scenario under which Jalen Green falls outside of top 3. We ain't getting him.

Yea. My projection on suggs on his first year around 13pts,6 assist,5 reb,2stl. 46%, 33%,78% 30min.

Tier 1 - Cunningham , Mobley, Green
Tier 2 - Suggs
Tier 3 - The rest.
Wildcard - Barnes, Kuminga

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