Hal’s Draft Thread

[BK_2020]

The Pelicans have like 15 2nd rounders maybe they will give us a couple.

[Hal14]

The Pelicans have like 15 2nd rounders maybe they will give us a couple.

We have too many young kids as it is we are trying to develop - especially if we bring Madar over.

I don't think we need more picks. I'm fine with us only having 1 pick.

All I want is for us to either:

a) Scout well and draft ourselves a STEAL at pick 45

or

b) Trade pick 45 + x in order to move up in the draft to grab an even better prospect.

Who would x be? Perhaps either:

-Thompson
-Smart
-Time Lord

Trading pick 45 + Thompson won't allow us to move up very much, probably only 6 or 7 spots at the most - still worth it IMO to get a better player, especially since Thompson has no place on this team with Horford/Brown/Time Lord all here

Trading either Smart or Time Lord + pick 45 could probably get us a pick in the 8-13 range, which might be why we worked out Kai Jones the other day and also interviewed Scottie Barnes.

[BK_2020]

Even if Yam and the 45th pick are our Two-Ways next season it wouldn't hurt to have a 2nd round big replace Grant so we have someone with more upside and shave off $1 mil. from the payroll.

[Bleeding Green]

You can always add an extra rookie to the team, especially a second-round pick that doesn't require a guaranteed contract. This team has sucked out loud at using their two-way contracts well. When they get one, they just immediately let him go (Dozier), or they sign low-impact, gimmick players (Tacko Fall). You should absolutely buy as many picks as the owners let you if you're the GM. Even just to use it on players like Madar who you can keep in Europe for a couple years. Add a Yam Madar to your stock every year and you are rewarded once a decade in a really good young, cheap player. This team has been **** useless at that part of roster construction.

[BostonCouchGM]

We will regret it big time when we see the talent we could have drafted at #16. What a disaster that Kemba signing was

[LarryBirdsFingr]

Useless thread, pick 45 is 4/5 a bogus pick who will have zero minutes for us. I fully expect it to be thrown in with another deal.

[Salahmanders]

To me Johnny Juzang is the ideal 2nd rounder. If you get anything resembling the guy who was a clutch, elite shot creator/shot maker in UCLA's Final Four run you've hit the jackpot. If not, you've lost literally nothing.

[Curmudgeon]

Useless thread, pick 45 is 4/5 a bogus pick who will have zero minutes for us. I fully expect it to be thrown in with another deal.

I think they ought to draft Yam Madar a second time. Is there any rule against that? I enjoy watching the Madar highlight film.

[Bleeding Green]

Hal14 would draft Yam Madar every year if he could.

[return2glory]

Watch on YouTube

I would look at Joe Wisekamp at #45. Really good shooter.

After looking at a few videos (not just highlights) I am now totally in the Joe Wieskamp Camp (no pun intended) Love the way he can move without the ball. Never looked originally because assumed he was "just a shooter". But his actual height, length and wiry toughness can certainly deal with some switching. I just hate logjams that only serve to get no one in sync. We have to either trade Romeo or NOT sign Fournier. Would also hate not filling in some more needed positions.

If someone has any ideas around that dilemma, I'd like to hear it.

After reading this, I checked out Joe Wieskamp. He is certainly a player that we should be considering at pick 45. He reminds me a bit of Duncan Robinson. While checking out how Weiskamp did at the combine, I found this article. I was impressed to see that Luka Garza has lost 22 lbs since leaving Iowa. He looks a lot slimmer.

https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/2021/06/24/2021-nba-draft-luka-garza-joe-wieskamp-nba-combine-weight-height-vertical-drills-iowa-basketball/5330190001/

Yes Duncan Robinson is who Joe reminds me of too, expect Joe looks a little more athletic.

As far as Garza goes, I posted a video of him a few weeks back. People are sleeping on this guy. He is the big shooting big in the draft. His issue was lack of quickness at the next level. And he is working on that but dropping all that weight.

[return2glory]

I want the Celtics to make a trade and move into the late 1st round or get an early 2nd rounder to go along with our current 2nd rounder.

[Celtics_History_Lesson]

We will regret it big time when we see the talent we could have drafted at #16. What a disaster that Kemba signing was

Draft night.

When Brad Stevens sees who is available at pick 16.

A Top 5 prospect who had a draft slide.

A possible future superstar.

When Paul Pierce or Danny Granger, or Rashard Lewis, slides in the draft it is good to have a pick to select them.

Here is Brad Stevens.

[captain green]

Johnny juzang is my 1st target so far he is listed at 24th so if we can flip something for in the mid 20 he'd would be my guy. If higher Barnes so far best fit prospect. If at 45 hopefully drops but should be a stud still left pretty deep draft to be honest I don't see much separation at the very top though. 16 would have been a nice faller spot to be in though

[Hal14]

After looking at a few videos (not just highlights) I am now totally in the Joe Wieskamp Camp (no pun intended) Love the way he can move without the ball. Never looked originally because assumed he was "just a shooter". But his actual height, length and wiry toughness can certainly deal with some switching. I just hate logjams that only serve to get no one in sync. We have to either trade Romeo or NOT sign Fournier. Would also hate not filling in some more needed positions.

If someone has any ideas around that dilemma, I'd like to hear it.

After reading this, I checked out Joe Wieskamp. He is certainly a player that we should be considering at pick 45. He reminds me a bit of Duncan Robinson. While checking out how Weiskamp did at the combine, I found this article. I was impressed to see that Luka Garza has lost 22 lbs since leaving Iowa. He looks a lot slimmer.

https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/2021/06/24/2021-nba-draft-luka-garza-joe-wieskamp-nba-combine-weight-height-vertical-drills-iowa-basketball/5330190001/

Yes Duncan Robinson is who Joe reminds me of too, expect Joe looks a little more athletic.

As far as Garza goes, I posted a video of him a few weeks back. People are sleeping on this guy. He is the big shooting big in the draft. His issue was lack of quickness at the next level. And he is working on that but dropping all that weight.

We don't need another big - we have too many as it is, especially after trading for Horford and Brown.

Wieskamp is my guy. Really liking him a lot and the potential fit on this team as a big wing / stretch 4.

You draft Wieskamp, you bring over Madar. We already added Horford and Moses Brown. That's 4 solid additions right there. Then just add 1 more good veteran player along with better coaching and things are really looking up for this team next year..

[Hal14]

Useless thread, pick 45 is 4/5 a bogus pick who will have zero minutes for us. I fully expect it to be thrown in with another deal.

Maybe you should try doing some research and checking out some of the guys who we could possibly take at 45 first before jumping to such negative conclusions.

Maybe check out some footage / scouting reports of some of these guys, most of them will be available at pick 45:

Joe Wieskamp
Moses Wright
Greg Brown
Isaiah Todd
Santi Aldama
Vrenz Bleijenbergh (a real person, not a bad Scrabble hand, lol)
Daiquan Gray
DJ Carton
Nah'Shon Hyland
Herb Jones
Kessler Edwards
Trendon Watford

The NBA's MVP this year was drafted in the 40's. Hall of famer Ginobili was drafted in the 50's. Duncan Robinson was undrafted, so was Bruce Bowen. You never know. This is a very deep draft..

[playa-hater]

I want the Celtics to make a trade and move into the late 1st round or get an early 2nd rounder to go along with our current 2nd rounder.

a Future 2nd with our 45th pick or Cash plus our 45th could at least move us up in RD 2. RD 1 would require a future 1st IMO.

[playa-hater]

My list of hopefuls ranked.

Based on ceiling and Fit combined

Tier 1 * players who I wish were available (slight chance) but probably not gonna happen.

1-Roko - best combo of talent/skill/need
2- JT Thor -maybe the highest upside

* Joe Wieskamp - too many good qualities moves him all the way up with only 2 higher ceiling players ahead of him for me right now.

3- Greg Brown - my personal highest hope for.
4- Trey Murphy - sticking with my OG Anoby comparison.

Tier 2 * decent chance

1- Vrenz Bleijenbergh - some experience and physical strength away from being a serious talent IMO
2- BJ Boston - perfect example of the type of wings I like.
3- Isaiah Todd - high ceiling IMO
4- Miles McBride * despite not needing his position as much- Colin Sexton lite
5- RaiQuan Gray - if he proves his shooting is legit
6- Joel Ayayi - more as a Big PG/Combo guard
7- Kessler Edwards - TJ Warren lite IMO.
8- Jericho Sims - one of the few centers
9- Jermiah Robinson Earl (would rank higher if we didn't make trade for Moses)
10- Marcus Bagley - most underrated SF

*** I am sure I forgot someone. (or didn't include due to not believing available in our draft spot)

*** did not include too many centers for obvious reasons.. (we are loaded at that position).. Finally !!

New addition

possibly the highest level shooter remaining with enough size defensive versatility IMO.

[Hal14]

My list of hopefuls ranked.

Based on ceiling and Fit combined

Tier 1 * players who I wish were available (slight chance) but probably not gonna happen.

1-Roko - best combo of talent/skill/need
2- JT Thor -maybe the highest upside

* Joe Wieskamp - too many good qualities moves him all the way up with only 2 higher ceiling players ahead of him for me right now.

3- Greg Brown - my personal highest hope for.
4- Trey Murphy - sticking with my OG Anoby comparison.

Tier 2 * decent chance

1- Vrenz Bleijenbergh - some experience and physical strength away from being a serious talent IMO
2- BJ Boston - perfect example of the type of wings I like.
3- Isaiah Todd - high ceiling IMO
4- Miles McBride * despite not needing his position as much- Colin Sexton lite
5- RaiQuan Gray - if he proves his shooting is legit
6- Joel Ayayi - more as a Big PG/Combo guard
7- Kessler Edwards - TJ Warren lite IMO.
8- Jericho Sims - one of the few centers
9- Jermiah Robinson Earl (would rank higher if we didn't make trade for Moses)
10- Marcus Bagley - most underrated SF

*** I am sure I forgot someone. (or didn't include due to not believing available in our draft spot)

*** did not include too many centers for obvious reasons.. (we are loaded at that position).. Finally !!

New addition

possibly the highest level shooter remaining with enough size defensive versatility IMO.

Agreed. We continue to see eye to eye in this thread.

I am really liking Wieskamp. The dude can flat out shoot. 46% from 3 playing in a good league, the Big 10, at age 21 - and he can score at the rim too, through contact. Seems to really play his a&& off. I actually like the fact that he's a junior and 21. Means he's more developed and less raw than these 18/19 year old kids since this celtics team wants to win now and have guys ready to play today rather than having all these kids who are development projects, while at the same time still has a bigger window to keep developing/improving than these 22 year old seniors.

Like you, I also have Roko and Thor up there, but being realistic it seems highly unlikely they will still be there at 45. I like you're optimism though!

I'm checking our Herb Jones for the first time now and really liking what I see. Dude was SEC Player of the Year and SEC Defensive Player of the Year - how is he not ranked higher? 2 biggest things standing out to me in this video:

1) Really smooth. The way he plays, the decisions he makes on the court, seems very smooth/natural/effortless.
2) Very much a swiss army knife type guy, love his all-around game. Dude can handle the ball, he can rebound, he can block shots, shoot from 3, he's got a mid range game, he can finish at the rim, plays good D and makes good passes. Dude has got to be one of the better all around players in this draft. Has size and athleticism too. Only downside I'm seeing is good not great shooter (35% from 3 and that's as a 22 year old senior so unlikely to improve much on that) and since he's 22 there's less room for development but still he could keep improve for his first couple years in the NBA and again, we're trying to win now so we want a more ready-product rather than a development project who is raw anyways.

Watch on YouTube

[LarryBirdsFingr]

Useless thread, pick 45 is 4/5 a bogus pick who will have zero minutes for us. I fully expect it to be thrown in with another deal.

Maybe you should try doing some research and checking out some of the guys who we could possibly take at 45 first before jumping to such negative conclusions.

Maybe check out some footage / scouting reports of some of these guys, most of them will be available at pick 45:

Joe Wieskamp
Moses Wright
Greg Brown
Isaiah Todd
Santi Aldama
Vrenz Bleijenbergh (a real person, not a bad Scrabble hand, lol)
Daiquan Gray
DJ Carton
Nah'Shon Hyland
Herb Jones
Kessler Edwards
Trendon Watford

The NBA's MVP this year was drafted in the 40's. Hall of famer Ginobili was drafted in the 50's. Duncan Robinson was undrafted, so was Bruce Bowen. You never know. This is a very deep draft..

I've seen more of these guys play in person than you've seen on YouTube. Next.

[playa-hater]

Useless thread, pick 45 is 4/5 a bogus pick who will have zero minutes for us. I fully expect it to be thrown in with another deal.

Maybe you should try doing some research and checking out some of the guys who we could possibly take at 45 first before jumping to such negative conclusions.

Maybe check out some footage / scouting reports of some of these guys, most of them will be available at pick 45:

Joe Wieskamp
Moses Wright
Greg Brown
Isaiah Todd
Santi Aldama
Vrenz Bleijenbergh (a real person, not a bad Scrabble hand, lol)
Daiquan Gray
DJ Carton
Nah'Shon Hyland
Herb Jones
Kessler Edwards
Trendon Watford

The NBA's MVP this year was drafted in the 40's. Hall of famer Ginobili was drafted in the 50's. Duncan Robinson was undrafted, so was Bruce Bowen. You never know. This is a very deep draft..

I've seen more of these guys play in person than you've seen on YouTube. Next.

EASY GUYS..