Mavs Offseason - 21/22 - what do we do from here?

[JD45]

We're essentially handing BKN the title with this. But I don't have problems with that too. Luka will have his time down the road. Let the others worry about this now.

I'd immediately follow that trade up by sending Dinwiddie to the Lakers for KCP and Montrezl Harell. Then send Deandre to Boston for Marcus Smart. With Joe Harris on board, you can afford to let THJ walk now. Split the cap room with Lowry and Holmes.

C- Holmes / WCS
PF- Harrell / Powell
SF - KCP / DFS / Harris
SG - Lowry / Smart / Harris
PG- Doncic / Brunson

That's basically Doncic and a lot of other players who play defense.

I think that's basically tanking for a lottery pick.

[arkuo]

The easiest answer to Cuban's search for a 2nd scorer is to trade KP for Hayward straight up. Salaries match, years match. Even the health questions match. Charlotte gets a big man they've wanted. Dallas gets a 2nd scorer who can create his own shot.

With that you can just let THJ walk and sign a big man from the open market.

[JJP]

They like Hayward.

In order to trade KP, the trading partner needs something besides a big man. In most cases, they need to get rid of big salaried player that wants out or the franchise needs him out. Hayward is not that guy. They don't want to trade him.

[Mr B]

The easiest answer to Cuban's search for a 2nd scorer is to trade KP for Hayward straight up. Salaries match, years match. Even the health questions match. Charlotte gets a big man they've wanted. Dallas gets a 2nd scorer who can create his own shot.

With that you can just let THJ walk and sign a big man from the open market.

By letting THJ walk would they then have enough cap space to sign Richaun Holmes and Fournier?

Luka
Fournier
Hayward
Kleber
Holmes


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[Mr B]

They like Hayward.

In order to trade KP, the trading partner needs something besides a big man. In most cases, they need to get rid of big salaried player that wants out or the franchise needs him out. Hayward is not that guy. They don't want to trade him.

Which teams are in luxury tax hell at the moment and might be looking to dump salaries?


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[Dirk]

They like Hayward.

In order to trade KP, the trading partner needs something besides a big man. In most cases, they need to get rid of big salaried player that wants out or the franchise needs him out. Hayward is not that guy. They don't want to trade him.

You're probably not wrong, we're still too close to the playoffs where his value tanked and the perception is that KP has one of the worst contracts in the league. So it won't be easy to trade. It's telling that we're here thinking that a Hayward/KP trade would be rejected by the Hornets.

It feels like the best bet is gambling on KP staying healthy and productive. His regular seasons numbers were okay, even if we visibly noticed his defense wasn't up to the level expected... so by the next season's trade deadline, his value should have improved a bit.

If you're the Mavs new management, you get in touch with KP and make him know they want him around next season.

[arkuo]

The easiest answer to Cuban's search for a 2nd scorer is to trade KP for Hayward straight up. Salaries match, years match. Even the health questions match. Charlotte gets a big man they've wanted. Dallas gets a 2nd scorer who can create his own shot.

With that you can just let THJ walk and sign a big man from the open market.

By letting THJ walk would they then have enough cap space to sign Richaun Holmes and Fournier?

Luka
Fournier
Hayward
Kleber
Holmes


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If THJ, Boban, Redick and JRich all walk, they'd have around $35M to spend.

Fournier currently earns $17M per. Safe to assume he'd like to earn the same or a bit more. Holmes will definitely need a raise from his current rate. I'd like to think both players would fit under $35M.

[Mr B]

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[Mavrelous]

Foirnier isn't making 17/yr, he should be thankful if he gets the MLE.

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[arkuo]

They like Hayward.

In order to trade KP, the trading partner needs something besides a big man. In most cases, they need to get rid of big salaried player that wants out or the franchise needs him out. Hayward is not that guy. They don't want to trade him.

You're probably not wrong, we're still too close to the playoffs where his value tanked and the perception is that KP has one of the worst contracts in the league. So it won't be easy to trade. It's telling that we're here thinking that a Hayward/KP trade would be rejected by the Hornets.

It feels like the best bet is gambling on KP staying healthy and productive. His regular seasons numbers were okay, even if we visibly noticed his defense wasn't up to the level expected... so by the next season's trade deadline, his value should have improved a bit.

If you're the Mavs new management, you get in touch with KP and make him know they want him around next season.

This seems like the most likely scenario. Kidd would at least want a few games of KP before deciding what to do. That leaves THJ as the best chance to make a change here. They can have him walk and sign Demar Derozan outright. He should fit the 2nd scorer bill and can create his own shot too.

[Mavrelous]

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Brilliant player, way too much drama and injuries when it matters, not a fan of soap operas.
If the Mavs want improve, they need to make lemons out of lemonade, bet on players whose stock has fallen but were very good once, Hield, CJ, Simmons to some extent.

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[arkuo]

If Derozan and Holmes could both sign within the $35M budget, I'd say that's a good haul under the circumstances.

C - Porzingis / Powell
PF - Holmes / Kleber
SF - DFS / Green
SG - Derozan / Burke / MLE guy
PG - Doncic / Brunson

That's a tall team too. Derozan, Doncic and Dorian are all 6'7 or 6'8.

[Apz]

They like Hayward.

In order to trade KP, the trading partner needs something besides a big man. In most cases, they need to get rid of big salaried player that wants out or the franchise needs him out. Hayward is not that guy. They don't want to trade him.

You're probably not wrong, we're still too close to the playoffs where his value tanked and the perception is that KP has one of the worst contracts in the league. So it won't be easy to trade. It's telling that we're here thinking that a Hayward/KP trade would be rejected by the Hornets.

It feels like the best bet is gambling on KP staying healthy and productive. His regular seasons numbers were okay, even if we visibly noticed his defense wasn't up to the level expected... so by the next season's trade deadline, his value should have improved a bit.

If you're the Mavs new management, you get in touch with KP and make him know they want him around next season.

This seems like the most likely scenario. Kidd would at least want a few games of KP before deciding what to do. That leaves THJ as the best chance to make a change here. They can have him walk and sign Demar Derozan outright. He should fit the 2nd scorer bill and can create his own shot too.

Except he doesnt shoot 3s. So what we get is another player inside . Also, he wants like twice what he reasonably should be payed in this era

[Mr B]

You're probably not wrong, we're still too close to the playoffs where his value tanked and the perception is that KP has one of the worst contracts in the league. So it won't be easy to trade. It's telling that we're here thinking that a Hayward/KP trade would be rejected by the Hornets.

It feels like the best bet is gambling on KP staying healthy and productive. His regular seasons numbers were okay, even if we visibly noticed his defense wasn't up to the level expected... so by the next season's trade deadline, his value should have improved a bit.

If you're the Mavs new management, you get in touch with KP and make him know they want him around next season.

This seems like the most likely scenario. Kidd would at least want a few games of KP before deciding what to do. That leaves THJ as the best chance to make a change here. They can have him walk and sign Demar Derozan outright. He should fit the 2nd scorer bill and can create his own shot too.

Except he doesnt shoot 3s. So what we get is another player inside . Also, he wants like twice what he reasonably should be payed in this era

Another inside player? Who’s the other? The Mavs don’t have anyone on the roster that can play efficiently inside the arc except Luka.


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[Mr B]

If Derozan and Holmes could both sign within the $35M budget, I'd say that's a good haul under the circumstances.

C - Porzingis / Powell
PF - Holmes / Kleber
SF - DFS / Green
SG - Derozan / Burke / MLE guy
PG - Doncic / Brunson

That's a tall team too. Derozan, Doncic and Dorian are all 6'7 or 6'8.

I wouldn’t mind that. I would look at using the MLE on a guy like Markkanen.


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[JJP]

The above is a good lineup, but I suspect its weakness is a lack of perimeter shooting from someone like Holmes. If you get DeRozan, the other starter should be able hit a 3.

[Mr B]

Just brainstorming here…

KP and THJ to the Blazers for McCullum and Nurk?


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[brewers0048]

Just brainstorming here…

KP and THJ to the Blazers for McCullum and Nurk?


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Yes, please. I love the idea but you’d have to hope THJ is willing to go to Portland.

[daoneandonly]

CJ McCollum makes 32 mil each of the next 3 years, come on guys. He's not worth anything close to that

[fuller4379]

CJ McCollum makes 32 mil each of the next 3 years, come on guys. He's not worth anything close to that

KP for McCollum would be bad contract for bad contract. The money washes out.