2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

[Rapsfan07]

I just can't see Siakam playing on this team next year. Call it a hunch.

For some reason I've been feeling like that as well.

Masai will need to make a choice on if we're going for a rebuild or a re-tool

[mtcan]

I just can't see Siakam playing on this team next year. Call it a hunch.

For some reason I've been feeling like that as well.

Masai will need to make a choice on if we're going for a rebuild or a re-tool

Siakam to Golden State for Wiggins and #7 and #14...go go go!!!

[Saul Goodman]

I just can't see Siakam playing on this team next year. Call it a hunch.

For some reason I've been feeling like that as well.

Masai will need to make a choice on if we're going for a rebuild or a re-tool

Siakam to Golden State for Wiggins and #7 and #14...go go go!!!

Id want another future 1st thrown in there but 3 lotto picks in this deep draft is a great start. Draft Sengun and jalen Johnson



Vanvleet/Green/Trent/OG/Boucher

Sengun Flynn/Wiggins

[T-d0t]

I just can't see Siakam playing on this team next year. Call it a hunch.

For some reason I've been feeling like that as well.

Masai will need to make a choice on if we're going for a rebuild or a re-tool

Going to be tough to trade him because of the surgery he had

[DangerZone13]

Agreed it'll be hard to trade Siakam coming off surgery, but if any team in the Lotto would, it'll be GSW. Being a big fan of Pascal, if we had to send him anywhere, I'd hope it's there because he would SHINE with the space provided by their shooting. He and Draymond kicking out to the Splash Bros. would be exciting.

[DangerZone13]

Apologies if this has been covered, but what's the status with Jalen Harris?
He was a 2-way, yeah? Is it a 2 year deal like most 2nd rounders? Is he a FA, UFA or RFA? Cap space to resign him?

[Rapsfan07]

I just can't see Siakam playing on this team next year. Call it a hunch.

For some reason I've been feeling like that as well.

Masai will need to make a choice on if we're going for a rebuild or a re-tool

Going to be tough to trade him because of the surgery he had

I agree. As much as he's paid, I wouldn't be in a rush to trade him as of yet.

Looking around the league, there aren't any PFs better than Siakam that are actually attainable.

[mtcan]

For some reason I've been feeling like that as well.

Masai will need to make a choice on if we're going for a rebuild or a re-tool

Going to be tough to trade him because of the surgery he had

I agree. As much as he's paid, I wouldn't be in a rush to trade him as of yet.

Looking around the league, there aren't any PFs better than Siakam that are actually attainable.

If he were on the Warriors I could see Steve Kerr using Pascal as a 3 to start then as a 4 to close games with Draymond at the 5.

[tecumseh18]

For some reason I've been feeling like that as well.

Masai will need to make a choice on if we're going for a rebuild or a re-tool

Going to be tough to trade him because of the surgery he had

I agree. As much as he's paid, I wouldn't be in a rush to trade him as of yet.

Looking around the league, there aren't any PFs better than Siakam that are actually attainable.

As I've said, the two premium positions in the league are 2-way, switchable 3-4s who can shoot. And Raps have two who are elite, or have the potential to be elite. A trade only makes sense if Raps want to completely tear down and rebuild around OG and the 2021 pick(s).

But ... to me the Eastern Conference right now doesn't look strong enough to justify doing that.

[Rapsfan07]

Going to be tough to trade him because of the surgery he had

I agree. As much as he's paid, I wouldn't be in a rush to trade him as of yet.

Looking around the league, there aren't any PFs better than Siakam that are actually attainable.

As I've said, the two premium positions in the league are 2-way, switchable 3-4s who can shoot. And Raps have two who are elite, or have the potential to be elite. A trade only makes sense if Raps want to completely tear down and rebuild around OG and the 2021 pick(s).

But ... to me the Eastern Conference right now doesn't look strong enough to justify doing that.

Correct. That's why what happens this offseason is so crucial.

[Rapsfan07]

How realistic is Boucher + Hood for Turner?

It addresses our C issue for the future and provides a better fit for Indiana.

[tecumseh18]

How realistic is Boucher + Hood for Turner?

It addresses our C issue for the future and provides a better fit for Indiana.

I don't think Hood's unguaranteed contract helps in that deal. And no-one's going to guarantee it.

But if Lowry walks, Raps can just absorb the net of Turner's and Boucher's salary (say around 10 mill) into our cap space. I think Pacers would prefer that. Which leaves enough to re-sign Birch for 5 mill or so.

Of course, Raps would have to add a 2022 or (ideally) 2029 FRP to that. And maybe one of the second rounders.

It all depends on whether Mobley falls.

[Rapsfan07]

How realistic is Boucher + Hood for Turner?

It addresses our C issue for the future and provides a better fit for Indiana.

I don't think Hood's unguaranteed contract helps in that deal. And no-one's going to guarantee it.

But if Lowry walks, Raps can just absorb the net of Turner's and Boucher's salary (say around 10 mill) into our cap space. I think Pacers would prefer that. Which leaves enough to re-sign Birch for 5 mill or so.

Of course, Raps would have to add a 2022 or (ideally) 2029 FRP to that. And maybe one of the second rounders.

It all depends on whether Mobley falls.

My hope is that Lowry walks as we'll need the capspace. I would guarantee Hood's deal if it was needed for a ballast. Baynes too.

What about if we took on Lamb as well? Expand the deal to be Turner + Lamb for Hood + Baynes + Boucher and picks?

[OAKLEY_2]

I just can't see Siakam playing on this team next year. Call it a hunch.

For some reason I've been feeling like that as well.

Masai will need to make a choice on if we're going for a rebuild or a re-tool

That would not be the reason. However if the team dynamic changes how do you demote him from first option with anything less than a trade?

[Bruin]

Proposed this on the trade board

Toronto out: Siakam, picks 46 and 47
Toronto in: pick 5 and Wiggins

Golden state out: pick 7, pick 14, Wiggins
Golden State in: Siakam

Orlando out: pick 5
Orlando in: pick 7, pick 14, pick 46, pick 47

Given our track record of getting solid players in the 2nd round I’d be cool to take out the two 2nds and give Orlando a future 1st instead

With the 5th pick we could add Kuminga to take Pascals spot and play alongside OG in the front court

A future core of Suggs/OG/Kuminga sounds pretty good to me

[tecumseh18]

Proposed this on the trade board

Toronto out: Siakam, picks 46 and 47
Toronto in: pick 5 and Wiggins

Golden state out: pick 7, pick 14, Wiggins
Golden State in: Siakam

Orlando out: pick 5
Orlando in: pick 7, pick 14, pick 46, pick 47

Given our track record of getting solid players in the 2nd round I’d be cool to take out the two 2nds and give Orlando a future 1st instead

With the 5th pick we could add Kuminga to take Pascals spot and play alongside OG in the front court

A future core of Suggs/OG/Kuminga sounds pretty good to me

I don't see us trading Siakam for just the #5 and a negative value contract (Wiggins). I don't care how much the team likes Kuminga (or Barnes). At least have the GSW #14 in there, and compensate Magic some other way. Lots of intriguing prospects in that range.

I thought there was a good chance of Siakam being traded if Warriors got Minny's pick at #4. But 7 and 14 just aren't enough. This is a clever way of ratcheting it up to the #5, and since we have the #4 pick, they're (almost) equivalent.

[NotMyKawhi]

Proposed this on the trade board

Toronto out: Siakam, picks 46 and 47
Toronto in: pick 5 and Wiggins

Golden state out: pick 7, pick 14, Wiggins
Golden State in: Siakam

Orlando out: pick 5
Orlando in: pick 7, pick 14, pick 46, pick 47

Given our track record of getting solid players in the 2nd round I’d be cool to take out the two 2nds and give Orlando a future 1st instead

With the 5th pick we could add Kuminga to take Pascals spot and play alongside OG in the front court

A future core of Suggs/OG/Kuminga sounds pretty good to me

I doubt the magic would do it. They already have 2 top 10 picks and a really high 2nd. Bringing in 6 rookies is a bit much.


And there's a big drop from 5 to 7. It's pretty much guaranteed Cade, Mobley, Green, Suggs, Kuminga and barnes are going top 6.


After that it's a craphot

[Bruin]

Proposed this on the trade board

Toronto out: Siakam, picks 46 and 47
Toronto in: pick 5 and Wiggins

Golden state out: pick 7, pick 14, Wiggins
Golden State in: Siakam

Orlando out: pick 5
Orlando in: pick 7, pick 14, pick 46, pick 47

Given our track record of getting solid players in the 2nd round I’d be cool to take out the two 2nds and give Orlando a future 1st instead

With the 5th pick we could add Kuminga to take Pascals spot and play alongside OG in the front court

A future core of Suggs/OG/Kuminga sounds pretty good to me

I don't see us trading Siakam for just the #5 and a negative value contract (Wiggins). I don't care how much the team likes Kuminga (or Barnes). At least have the GSW #14 in there, and compensate Magic some other way. Lots of intriguing prospects in that range.

I thought there was a good chance of Siakam being traded if Warriors got Minny's pick at #4. But 7 and 14 just aren't enough. This is a clever way of ratcheting it up to the #5, and since we have the #4 pick, they're (almost) equivalent.

Yeah idk I’m just trying to figure out a way tht we could possibly get the 5th pick lol

One Magic fan responded with a counter to cut out the Warriors entirely and do something like

5, Harris, and a young guy for Siakam

[Bruin]

Proposed this on the trade board

Toronto out: Siakam, picks 46 and 47
Toronto in: pick 5 and Wiggins

Golden state out: pick 7, pick 14, Wiggins
Golden State in: Siakam

Orlando out: pick 5
Orlando in: pick 7, pick 14, pick 46, pick 47

Given our track record of getting solid players in the 2nd round I’d be cool to take out the two 2nds and give Orlando a future 1st instead

With the 5th pick we could add Kuminga to take Pascals spot and play alongside OG in the front court

A future core of Suggs/OG/Kuminga sounds pretty good to me

I doubt the magic would do it. They already have 2 top 10 picks and a really high 2nd. Bringing in 6 rookies is a bit much.


And there's a big drop from 5 to 7. It's pretty much guaranteed Cade, Mobley, Green, Suggs, Kuminga and barnes are going top 6.


After that it's a craphot

I agree that it’s probably a bit iffy for Orlando to add so many picks but alternatively

Maybe they could then take 14 and 33 plus the other future compensation they’d get from us to try to move up to 9 or 10

In that case they’d be picking at 7,8,9 and essentially turning 5 and 33 into 7 and 9 which is pretty good value imo

Having 3 top 10 picks would give the Magic a very solid chance to strike gold with at least one imo

[jimross]

I wonder if theres a 3 team deal to be made between the Warriors, Cavs and Raps. Framework would be something around:

Raptors recieve: 3rd pick
Warriors recieve: Siakam
Cavs: Weisman + 7th + Flynn + another pick.

Trade helps the Warriors win now.

Raps get a young stud and commit to a full on rebuild.

Cavs move down while acquiring a great young C prospect, combo guard prospect, #7 pick to target a SF and another pick to continuing adding to that young core.