Trade Thread (EPISODE VI: Can't we just put EVERYTHING in the TE?)

[killmongrel]

If Simmons is worth a haul, why wouldn't Philly take that haul now? Wiggins and 2 picks don't make a haul.

Haul might be the wrong word. But a trade that remedies our needs when this doesn't work out is a better phrase. I don't think Simmons gets worse on the Warriors.

By the way, let me just go on record to say that the Sixers would never accept this trade because they would be crazy to do so.

Personally, I wouldn't do it if I were either team. I think it makes both teams worse.

Fair enough. Like I said, we don't have to worry about it because the Sixers aren't that crazy.

I'm perfectly happy as well moving foward with Wiggins and those picks.

[Rastas]

Ssshhhh keep this under your hat when considering a Simmons trade -
In the 4 or 5 Playoff games that Ben has played in without Joel in the team he is averaging nearly a 23point triple.
Ben has a few problems , but his pairing with Joel is obviously the worst.
Pretty sure Warriors play nothing like Embiid ball - but you might need to find a new home for Green.

[Mac1958]

Green AND Simmons would be interesting as hell, but redundant.

What would it do to morale if they dealt Green?

I don't see that happening.

[Rastas]

Green AND Simmons would be interesting as hell, but redundant.

What would it do to morale if they dealt Green?

I don't see that happening.

Yes , I agree moral is the biggest hurdle to overcome for a Simmons to GS trade.

All those Ben with no Embiid playoff games were all wins by the way - if that helps to twist your arms any more.

[basketballRob]

#8 and Bamba for the #14 and Wiseman. Interested?

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[Quazza]

#8 and Bamba for the #14 and Wiseman. Interested?

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He actually had done big games once Vuc was traded away

[Godaddycurse]

Question for you guys is Draymond Green considered untouchable? It seems like it makes the most sense to use him as the salary filler to acquire a 3rd star (ie Simmons). Curry/Thompson/Wiggins/Simmons core is damn scary.

[Scoots1994]

Question for you guys is Draymond Green considered untouchable? It seems like it makes the most sense to use him as the salary filler to acquire a 3rd star (ie Simmons). Curry/Thompson/Wiggins/Simmons core is damn scary.

The only opinion that really matters about that is Curry's. Green is better than Simmons, but he's what, 7 years older, less athletic, and shorter. Simmons is broken mentally ... I'm fairly sure he's going to have to get out of Philly to overcome it, if it's possible, but I doubt it's to the Warriors.

[jimross]

What do yall think about a Wiggins + 7 + Weisman for Siakam?

[Warriorfan]

What do yall think about a Wiggins + 7 + Weisman for Siakam?

Don't think Siakam has that type value

[killmongrel]

#8 and Bamba for the #14 and Wiseman. Interested?

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I don't want to be rude, but hell no.

[killmongrel]

Question for you guys is Draymond Green considered untouchable? It seems like it makes the most sense to use him as the salary filler to acquire a 3rd star (ie Simmons). Curry/Thompson/Wiggins/Simmons core is damn scary.

He isn't untouchable. But finding a team that values him as much as the Warriors is difficult. So it kind of avoids us having to make a difficult decision. But if the Sixers offered a trade that sent out Draymond instead of Wiggins, GS would probably take it. I just don't know why the Sixers want the same problem with a different player. Unless it's a three team trade. But yeah, a Curry/Thompson/Wiggins/Simmons core would be interesting. And I'm guessing this is with the Warriors still keeping Wiseman? Sign me up even though I do love Draymond.

[Godaddycurse]

Question for you guys is Draymond Green considered untouchable? It seems like it makes the most sense to use him as the salary filler to acquire a 3rd star (ie Simmons). Curry/Thompson/Wiggins/Simmons core is damn scary.

He isn't untouchable. But finding a team that values him as much as the Warriors is difficult. So it kind of avoids us having to make a difficult decision. But if the Sixers offered a trade that sent out Draymond instead of Wiggins, GS would probably take it. I just don't know why the Sixers want the same problem with a different player. Unless it's a three team trade. But yeah, a Curry/Thompson/Wiggins/Simmons core would be interesting. And I'm guessing this is with the Warriors still keeping Wiseman? Sign me up even though I do love Draymond.

Yea i'm thinking a 3-4 team deal where draymond+7+14 goes out for Simmons(+) would make the most sense.

[killmongrel]

Question for you guys is Draymond Green considered untouchable? It seems like it makes the most sense to use him as the salary filler to acquire a 3rd star (ie Simmons). Curry/Thompson/Wiggins/Simmons core is damn scary.

He isn't untouchable. But finding a team that values him as much as the Warriors is difficult. So it kind of avoids us having to make a difficult decision. But if the Sixers offered a trade that sent out Draymond instead of Wiggins, GS would probably take it. I just don't know why the Sixers want the same problem with a different player. Unless it's a three team trade. But yeah, a Curry/Thompson/Wiggins/Simmons core would be interesting. And I'm guessing this is with the Warriors still keeping Wiseman? Sign me up even though I do love Draymond.

Yea i'm thinking a 3-4 team deal where draymond+7+14 goes out for Simmons(+) would make the most sense.

As painful as it would be to let go of Draymond, yeah, the FO would jump at that value.

Steph/Klay/Wiggins/Simmons/Wiseman

With a bench of Poole, JTA, MLE player, Looney and I haven't even mentioned what they could do with Oubre's salary should they decide to sign and trade him.

[DAWill1128]

I don't see why the Sixers would trade Simmons for a power forward. Tobias Harris already plays power forward and even if he moved to small forward who would play point guard? Dray is a great passer but who is legitimately gonna break down the defense? It's tough to find NBA caliber starting point guards, easier to find forwards. Even if they did do the trade Dray can't shoot either, it's a non-shooter for a bad one.

Also why trade young for old? It's a bad trade imo for the Sixers.

But it's also a bad trade for us. Who is the vocal leader if Dray leaves? Steph, Kay, Andrew, and Ben are all laid back quiet guys. Also it's not a big talent upgrade to replace the continuity, chemistry for better legs is almost a wash. But the trust from the Splash Brothers is probably tarnished in a Dray trade.

We would probably do better with Ben in the regular season since he's got fresher legs, but Dray is a winner in the postseason and Ben is not.

Would rather package Wiggins and picks for Beal, but even that might be a wash since I think Wiggins is way better on defense and a bigger guy and picks bring depth.

[Mob Byers]

Wonder if Detroit would give up Grant and go full rebuild youth movement

Wiseman, EP, Poole, fillers (Mulder, Smiley) for Grant, some sort of draft compensation at least #37

Works in the trade checker

Draft Moody, Wagner, Ayayi

Would need to score a backup PG with TPMLE. More of a side not but think we give Tyreke a chance if he gets reinstated soon.

Curry/Klay/Wiggins/Grant/Green
death lineup 3.0

[weekend_warrior]

Grant is alright, wouldn't mind the guy as first option off the bench to fill this big forward spot. The problem is that we don't really have enough salary to trade away. That leaves 2 options:

1. Something like the suggested trade here. We'd have to trade a lot of small salaries and end up trading away also useful and cheap players (e.g. Poole). Doe we even end up with a better roster like this? Imo the salary gap between Wiseman and Grant is too big.

2. Trade Wiggins. But Grant (and also Siakam) has a similar ceiling as Wiggins imo. Don't really see the point especially if it costs extra assets.

[The-Power]

Grant might have some value but I doubt it's much. That goes for Siakam as well, for what it's worth.

[Scoots1994]

Wonder if Detroit would give up Grant and go full rebuild youth movement

Wiseman, EP, Poole, fillers (Mulder, Smiley) for Grant, some sort of draft compensation at least #37

Works in the trade checker

Draft Moody, Wagner, Ayayi

Would need to score a backup PG with TPMLE. More of a side not but think we give Tyreke a chance if he gets reinstated soon.

Curry/Klay/Wiggins/Grant/Green
death lineup 3.0

Grant is SO not worth it. He's older than Wiggins, shot considerably worse than Wiggins, is worse on defense than Wiggins, is a worse passer than Wiggins, worse rebounder than Wiggins ... With Klay, Wiggins, Moody, and Wagner on the team how many minutes is Grant going to earn to warrant sending out Wiseman, EP, and Poole and leaving the weakest position on the roster (center) even thinner? It also doesn't fit the Warriors stated target of big shooting or playmaking.

[cpower]

Question for you guys is Draymond Green considered untouchable? It seems like it makes the most sense to use him as the salary filler to acquire a 3rd star (ie Simmons). Curry/Thompson/Wiggins/Simmons core is damn scary.

He isn't untouchable. But finding a team that values him as much as the Warriors is difficult. So it kind of avoids us having to make a difficult decision. But if the Sixers offered a trade that sent out Draymond instead of Wiggins, GS would probably take it. I just don't know why the Sixers want the same problem with a different player. Unless it's a three team trade. But yeah, a Curry/Thompson/Wiggins/Simmons core would be interesting. And I'm guessing this is with the Warriors still keeping Wiseman? Sign me up even though I do love Draymond.

he is in the same package with Curry, if Curry stays Green will be here to provide defense and playmaking. Simmons is a good player but not nearly good enough to replace what Green brings to the team, rim protection, communication, toughness , championship experience etc.

if we decide to rebuild sure trade the big three otherwise Green will stay 100%.