Can the Magic trade-up in the Draft?

[ogmagicfan]

The Magic have the most flexibility to trade up than any other team in the league, and can take back any bad contract considering we are just beginning this new rebuild.

Many avenues we can take.

[RookieStar]

The Magic have the most flexibility to trade up than any other team in the league, and can take back any bad contract considering we are just beginning this new rebuild.

Many avenues we can take.

Exactly.Thats a good point. Thus its a game of showmanship right now. Lots of teams in the upper 4 than us would just love to try to get our 8 and/or 33 pick while also getting their man in the top 5. Not to mention unload a bloated contract to us.

Its up to our FO not to get hoodwinked like Henny/Otis when making trades. Dont give up too much and just make a trade where everyone wins.

[drsd]

I think trading down is a better option. If the Warriors fall in love with Barnes, maybe they give us the 7 and 14. In this draft I think you could get a good player at 14.

If we are not sold on Kuminga and the 6-10 slots are interchangeable, I think the Magic would be well served to trade down.

#5 to Sacramento for #9, Chimezie Metu, and their 2023 FRP and 2025 FRP (protected to top-4 only for both). Orlando would come out of the draft with Moody and one of the I-can't-shoot forwards (all of which I personally have equivalent to Kuminga on a draft board). The Magic shores up the 3rd-string Center and punts on a gamble for future assets that could/might have value.

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[bigdogdylan5]

Some of y’all are valuing quantity over quality. If there’s a guy you feel as a gm that you have scouted and liked before the lottery, that you feel is going to turn things around and a player worth building around, you trade up. Especially if you’re a team like us with players that provide none of those things.

You don’t take a bet that player is going to fall.

Also Kuminga in the top 5 is heavily debated and being questioned as we speak. Guys like Barnes could quite possibly push Kuminga out of that spot.

Thats not this draft or the prospects in it. Quantity here trumps. There is a higher probability of finding a serious player with 2 chances instead of one, in this draft

Givony made an interesting point about the magic and this very thing. Only team with 2 picks in the clear top 12. He didn’t think you would want to trade up if your Orlando. Having two bites at the Apple specifically in this draft is really valuable

[bigdogdylan5]

Jalen Green is my guy. This is enticing.

If Orlando really wants the #2 pick, they should offer the bag to Houston!

Garry Harris, Wendell Carter Jr, #5 pick, 2022 1st Rd pick and Denver 1st Rd pick (AG trade) for Eric Gordon, DJ Augustine and #2 pick!

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yk6tetyp

Not just no that is a hell no. No trading our picks or Carter. Also that Denver pick might be interesting who knows where that franchise will be in 2025.

[drsd]

The Magic have the most flexibility to trade up than any other team in the league, and can take back any bad contract considering we are just beginning this new rebuild.

Many avenues we can take.

And also other trades in taking a bad-contract. For example, the Warriors are not really interested in rookies and Ross, Harris and #8 for Wiggins, #7 and #14 allows the Warriors to have a more balanced roster for a title run, and gets out Wiggins deal for tax purposes. Orlando will be horrible (which might be a feature over a bug) and will have the Wunderkind roster to pick and choose which players to develop.

Assuming the Magic draft Kuminga, Moody, Wagner (or Kispert), and Garza. There are two roster slots the Magic could use to resign Wagner and Brazdeikis.

Anthony/Carter-Williams/Fultz(IR)
Hampton/Moody/Brazdeikis
Wiggins/Kuminga/F-Wagner
Isaac/Okeke/M-Wagner
Carter/Bamba/Garza

Wow that's a young team. It will be fun and lose a huge number of games to "Player Development". But for 2022/23, I could see a playoff run there.


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[RookieStar]

Some of y’all are valuing quantity over quality. If there’s a guy you feel as a gm that you have scouted and liked before the lottery, that you feel is going to turn things around and a player worth building around, you trade up. Especially if you’re a team like us with players that provide none of those things.

You don’t take a bet that player is going to fall.

Also Kuminga in the top 5 is heavily debated and being questioned as we speak. Guys like Barnes could quite possibly push Kuminga out of that spot.

Thats not this draft or the prospects in it. Quantity here trumps. There is a higher probability of finding a serious player with 2 chances instead of one, in this draft

Givony made an interesting point about the magic and this very thing. Only team with 2 picks in the clear top 12. He didn’t think you would want to trade up if your Orlando. Having two bites at the Apple specifically in this draft is really valuable

I agree... aside from DET I think the other 28 teams would probably kill to be in our position right now. And some here are just gonna throw it away to move up in the top5 where there is no clear ranking.

[RookieStar]

Jalen Green is my guy. This is enticing.

If Orlando really wants the #2 pick, they should offer the bag to Houston!

Garry Harris, Wendell Carter Jr, #5 pick, 2022 1st Rd pick and Denver 1st Rd pick (AG trade) for Eric Gordon, DJ Augustine and #2 pick!

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yk6tetyp

Not just no that is a hell no. No trading our picks or Carter. Also that Denver pick might be interesting who knows where that franchise will be in 2025.

+1000.

This is shades of the 90s where HOU just went to us raw. Seriously, E.Gordons 3 year contract left at...17m/yr was it? DJ coming back?

Id do that if they give us a warranty that if Green doesnt become the next kobe/tmac in year 3 we can do a refund

[zaymon]

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With Bouknight stock going up, value of #8 increases. Personally i wouldnt do 5 + 8 for 3. I can see a scenario where Bouknight is better than Green.

[RookieStar]

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With Bouknight stock going up, value of #8 increases. Personally i wouldnt do 5 + 8 for 3. I can see a scenario where Bouknight is better than Green.

Yup. Anything is possible. With hard work theres always the chance/possibility that JB could be better than Green, Giddy becomes better than Cade, Sengun better than Mobley, Wagner better than Kuminga.

And yes... our #8 is getting more valuable as more videos come out. To think its this coveted with the combije and top rated draftees like Giddy Sengun Wagner Moody Johnson etc havent even showed their stuff yet

[tiderulz]

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With Bouknight stock going up, value of #8 increases. Personally i wouldnt do 5 + 8 for 3. I can see a scenario where Bouknight is better than Green.

i am very quickly jumping on this bandwagon as the 2nd best SG. question is just how far behind Green is he

[89Magicfan]

Thats not this draft or the prospects in it. Quantity here trumps. There is a higher probability of finding a serious player with 2 chances instead of one, in this draft

Givony made an interesting point about the magic and this very thing. Only team with 2 picks in the clear top 12. He didn’t think you would want to trade up if your Orlando. Having two bites at the Apple specifically in this draft is really valuable

I agree... aside from DET I think the other 28 teams would probably kill to be in our position right now. And some here are just gonna throw it away to move up in the top5 where there is no clear ranking.

No one is saying just throw it away. Just saying if there’s that one guy you really are confident with as a gm you go get him.

[89Magicfan]

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With Bouknight stock going up, value of #8 increases. Personally i wouldnt do 5 + 8 for 3. I can see a scenario where Bouknight is better than Green.

i am very quickly jumping on this bandwagon as the 2nd best SG. question is just how far behind Green is he

I like JB. I don’t know if he has much else to his game but his scoring potential with his athleticism is very intriguing. I don’t think he’ll be there with the 8th pick.

[Horcy]

Cade is a pipe dream at this point. But if we could move up to get Mobley while dropping Bamba I'd be all for it. I'm sorry Bamba is a really good kid but the verdict is out to me on him. His effort and basketball IQ leave a lot to be desired. Mobley I think would be what we wanted Bamba to be, I could be wrong, but he already looks far ahead skill wise.

I wouldn't move up for Suggs or Green. We already have Fultz and Anothny. Suggs feels redundant. And I'm ok with drafting Green if he falls to 5 but I don't think he is worth moving up for. Granted I could be dead wrong, but I've watched highlights of him and he doesn't seem like anything super duper special. An athletic kid who might have a good career. Just looks like a dime a dozen blue chip prospect. Cade, Zion, Trae, Luka...their highlights pop and you have a feeling just watching them. Don't get that with Green.

I'd trade up for Cade or Mobley but I'd stay put for Suggs or Green and if we draft Kuminga i hope he works out so we can have Jonathan and Jonathan law firm.

THIS! If we can get Mobley I would definitely be OK with the fact of letting Mamba go.