Joel Embiid

[DCasey91]

Brett and Simmons were the two guys who made the moves behing the scenes, everyone knows this. Embiid has all the right to be pissed. Half season to gel with Butler and we were one shot away of winning against champions, despite the Simmons hindrance. But they both had other plans.

You know right before the playoffs, Brett Brown totally changed the offense and ran it throught Butler right?

Butler even objected to Brown but got shot down. The dysfunction on that team was immense.

Oh yeah and the SImmons hinderance is a 3 time all-star in his 4th year at 24. What a nightmare.

Did you know Butler shot 26% from 3 in the Raptors series? Didn't think so. That is the reason for the loss.

Ben ... 0 threes that’s the reason we lost. Can cheat all day with no repercussions.

Butler won us 2 games ffs. Shutup with that nonsense BS

[DCasey91]

Not sure why anyone is giving much attention to Syntax. He's an Aussie. Aussies are brainwashed to defend Simmons.

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I’m an Aussie, Simmons is a mule masquerading as a stud.

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:P

Brett and Simmons were the two guys who made the moves behing the scenes, everyone knows this. Embiid has all the right to be pissed. Half season to gel with Butler and we were one shot away of winning against champions, despite the Simmons hindrance. But they both had other plans.

You know right before the playoffs, Brett Brown totally changed the offense and ran it throught Butler right?

Butler even objected to Brown but got shot down. The dysfunction on that team was immense.

Oh yeah and the SImmons hinderance is a 3 time all-star in his 4th year at 24. What a nightmare.

Did you know Butler shot 26% from 3 in the Raptors series? Didn't think so. That is the reason for the loss.

Ben ... 0 threes that’s the reason we lost. Can cheat all day with no repercussions.

Butler won us 2 games ffs. Shutup with that nonsense BS

You're ok with your stud guard in your PnR offense going 26% from 3? Yikes.

[Bum Adebayo]

:P

You know right before the playoffs, Brett Brown totally changed the offense and ran it throught Butler right?

Butler even objected to Brown but got shot down. The dysfunction on that team was immense.

Oh yeah and the SImmons hinderance is a 3 time all-star in his 4th year at 24. What a nightmare.

Did you know Butler shot 26% from 3 in the Raptors series? Didn't think so. That is the reason for the loss.

Ben ... 0 threes that’s the reason we lost. Can cheat all day with no repercussions.

Butler won us 2 games ffs. Shutup with that nonsense BS

You're ok with your stud guard in your PnR offense going 26% from 3? Yikes.

I am more ok with it than 33.3 FT% from your "3 time all-star in his 4th year at 24". Certainly much better than 0% from 3 too.

[DCasey91]

Better then 0% and 33 FT%.

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Better then 0% and 33 FT%.

You argument goes from 'Butler was awesome for us' to 'At least Butler doesnt suck as much as some other guy'

Why do you even bother.

[eyeatoma]

Better then 0% and 33 FT%.

You argument goes from 'Butler was awesome for us' to 'At least Butler doesnt suck as much as some other guy'

Why do you even bother.

Literally the whole board agrees that Simmons is a massive playoff liability. Are you a relative or something? At this point your inability to have logical conversations informs me that you have a very poor awareness of basketball or you are heavily biased because of unknown reasons.

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Better then 0% and 33 FT%.

You argument goes from 'Butler was awesome for us' to 'At least Butler doesnt suck as much as some other guy'

Why do you even bother.

Literally the whole board agrees that Simmons is a massive playoff liability. Are you a relative or something? At this point your inability to have logical confirmations informs you that you have a very poor awareness of basketball or your are heavily biased because of unknown reasons.

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I'm just allergic to stupidity.

The whole team performed poorly not just Ben.

That's what the coaching staff and GM says, not the idiots on this board.

[eyeatoma]

You argument goes from 'Butler was awesome for us' to 'At least Butler doesnt suck as much as some other guy'

Why do you even bother.

Literally the whole board agrees that Simmons is a massive playoff liability. Are you a relative or something? At this point your inability to have logical confirmations informs you that you have a very poor awareness of basketball or your are heavily biased because of unknown reasons.

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I'm just allergic to stupidity.

The whole team performed poorly not just Ben.

That's what the coaching staff and GM says, not the idiots on this board.

Hahaha clearly you can't read between the lines. Talk about stupidity. Sure everyone could have improved but Simmons' no show was historic. They can't completely rail on him because they need to maintain trade value. Sure call us dumb... How about all the articles by respected journalists that say Simmons needs to go this summer? How about former NBA executive John Hollinger who says Simmons needs to be traded? Are they stupid too? Are you telling me you're the only one who is woke enough to believe that Ben fits on this team?

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Literally the whole board agrees that Simmons is a massive playoff liability. Are you a relative or something? At this pointc your inability to have logical confirmations informs you that you have a very poor awareness of basketball or your are heavily biased because of unknown reasons.

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I'm just allergic to stupidity.

The whole team performed poorly not just Ben.

That's what the coaching staff and GM says, not the idiots on this board.

Hahaha clearly you can't read between the lines. Talk about stupidity. Sure everyone could have improved but Simmons' no show was historic. They can't completely rail on him because they need to maintain trade value. Sure call us dumb... How about all the articles by respected journalists that day Simmons needs to go this summer? How about former NBA executive John Hollinger who says Simmons needs to be traded? Are they stupid too? Are you telling me you're the only one who is woke enough to believe that Ben fits on this team?

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Maybe the team needs trades yes. But to act like it was all Ben's fault and Joel didn't go 0-12 in a half or Toby didnt score 4 points in 6 quarters or anything and just jump up and down on Ben is well, pathetic. Shake Milton averaging 4 points in the playoffs...

[eyeatoma]

I'm just allergic to stupidity.

The whole team performed poorly not just Ben.

That's what the coaching staff and GM says, not the idiots on this board.

Hahaha clearly you can't read between the lines. Talk about stupidity. Sure everyone could have improved but Simmons' no show was historic. They can't completely rail on him because they need to maintain trade value. Sure call us dumb... How about all the articles by respected journalists that day Simmons needs to go this summer? How about former NBA executive John Hollinger who says Simmons needs to be traded? Are they stupid too? Are you telling me you're the only one who is woke enough to believe that Ben fits on this team?

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Maybe the team needs trades yes. But to act like it was all Ben's fait and Joel didn't go 0-12 in a half or Toby didnt score 4 points in 6 quarters or anything and just jump up and down on Ben is well, pathetic.

Joel Embiid averaged 30.4 points, 12.4 rebounds and 2 blocks per game in a series where he had a torn meniscus! But you're highlighting his 0-12 performance?

Of course Embiid could have played better. But given that he was not winded the whole year, and rarely had massive scoring doubts, there is a very high chance that his poor performances in 2nd halves was due to the meniscus injury, or from the lack of conditioning from having to rest, and not overwork himself on off days. No one is saying that other players are absolved of blame. But in no world is trading Joel a good idea, unless he asks for a trade. Teams tank, and stockpiles picks for players like Embiid. Even if he has only 2-3 years left at this level, Embiid combined with a premiere perimeter scorer is a lock to win a championship if both are healthy. You cannot say the same about Ben Simmons. It is also a massive indictment on Ben that he turtles during every 2nd round playoff series when the defense gets a little better. You know what's worse? Atlanta's defense is horrible!

Embiid made Clint Capela looking like a 5 year old. This is a DPOY candidate, who got all defensive team votes, that was being tossed around by Jo like a rag doll while playing with a torn meniscus. Ben Simmons deserves more blame than anybody for us losing this series, and it is not debatable. To say otherwise is asinine.

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Hahaha clearly you can't read between the lines. Talk about stupidity. Sure everyone could have improved but Simmons' no show was historic. They can't completely rail on him because they need to maintain trade value. Sure call us dumb... How about all the articles by respected journalists that day Simmons needs to go this summer? How about former NBA executive John Hollinger who says Simmons needs to be traded? Are they stupid too? Are you telling me you're the only one who is woke enough to believe that Ben fits on this team?

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Maybe the team needs trades yes. But to act like it was all Ben's fait and Joel didn't go 0-12 in a half or Toby didnt score 4 points in 6 quarters or anything and just jump up and down on Ben is well, pathetic.

Joel Embiid averaged 30.4 points, 12.4 rebounds and 2 blocks per game in a series where he had a torn meniscus! But you're highlighting his 0-12 performance?

Of course Embiid could have played better. But given that he was not winded the whole year, and rarely had massive scoring doubts, there is a very high chance that his poor performances in 2nd halves was due to the meniscus injury, or from the lack of conditioning from having to rest, and not overwork himself on off days. No one is saying that other players are absolved of blame. But in no world is trading Joel a good idea, unless he asks for a trade. Teams tank, and stockpiles picks for players like Embiid. Even if he has only 2-3 years left at this level, Embiid combined with a premiere perimeter scorer is a lock to win a championship if both are healthy. You cannot say the same about Ben Simmons. It is also a massive indictment on Ben that he turtles during every 2nd round playoff series when the defense gets a little better. You know what's worse? Atlanta's defense is horrible!

Embiid made Clint Capela looking like a 5 year old. This is a DPOY candidate, who got all defensive team votes, that was being tossed around by Jo like a rag doll while playing with a torn meniscus. Ben Simmons deserves more blame than anybody for us losing this series, and it is not debatable. To say otherwise is asinine.

Back it up with stats or analytics or anything other than hyperbole.

[eyeatoma]

Maybe the team needs trades yes. But to act like it was all Ben's fait and Joel didn't go 0-12 in a half or Toby didnt score 4 points in 6 quarters or anything and just jump up and down on Ben is well, pathetic.

Joel Embiid averaged 30.4 points, 12.4 rebounds and 2 blocks per game in a series where he had a torn meniscus! But you're highlighting his 0-12 performance?

Of course Embiid could have played better. But given that he was not winded the whole year, and rarely had massive scoring doubts, there is a very high chance that his poor performances in 2nd halves was due to the meniscus injury, or from the lack of conditioning from having to rest, and not overwork himself on off days. No one is saying that other players are absolved of blame. But in no world is trading Joel a good idea, unless he asks for a trade. Teams tank, and stockpiles picks for players like Embiid. Even if he has only 2-3 years left at this level, Embiid combined with a premiere perimeter scorer is a lock to win a championship if both are healthy. You cannot say the same about Ben Simmons. It is also a massive indictment on Ben that he turtles during every 2nd round playoff series when the defense gets a little better. You know what's worse? Atlanta's defense is horrible!

Embiid made Clint Capela looking like a 5 year old. This is a DPOY candidate, who got all defensive team votes, that was being tossed around by Jo like a rag doll while playing with a torn meniscus. Ben Simmons deserves more blame than anybody for us losing this series, and it is not debatable. To say otherwise is asinine.

Back it up with stats or analytics or anything other than hyperbole.

There is no hyperbole. I just gave you facts.

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[eyeatoma]

Maybe the team needs trades yes. But to act like it was all Ben's fait and Joel didn't go 0-12 in a half or Toby didnt score 4 points in 6 quarters or anything and just jump up and down on Ben is well, pathetic.

Joel Embiid averaged 30.4 points, 12.4 rebounds and 2 blocks per game in a series where he had a torn meniscus! But you're highlighting his 0-12 performance?

Of course Embiid could have played better. But given that he was not winded the whole year, and rarely had massive scoring doubts, there is a very high chance that his poor performances in 2nd halves was due to the meniscus injury, or from the lack of conditioning from having to rest, and not overwork himself on off days. No one is saying that other players are absolved of blame. But in no world is trading Joel a good idea, unless he asks for a trade. Teams tank, and stockpiles picks for players like Embiid. Even if he has only 2-3 years left at this level, Embiid combined with a premiere perimeter scorer is a lock to win a championship if both are healthy. You cannot say the same about Ben Simmons. It is also a massive indictment on Ben that he turtles during every 2nd round playoff series when the defense gets a little better. You know what's worse? Atlanta's defense is horrible!

Embiid made Clint Capela looking like a 5 year old. This is a DPOY candidate, who got all defensive team votes, that was being tossed around by Jo like a rag doll while playing with a torn meniscus. Ben Simmons deserves more blame than anybody for us losing this series, and it is not debatable. To say otherwise is asinine.

Back it up with stats or analytics or anything other than hyperbole.

At this point you're clearly trolling. I'm done.

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[Murray_17]

You're ok with your stud guard in your PnR offense going 26% from 3? Yikes.

By the same token, why are you defending Ben who's our supossed PG??

[phillynative]

Lol @ nba players relatives trolling this board.

[TeamHigh]

Joel Embiid averaged 30.4 points, 12.4 rebounds and 2 blocks per game in a series where he had a torn meniscus!

Back it up with stats or analytics or anything other than hyperbole.

He did? Literally at the start of the post? Is your reading comprehension as bad as your bias?

Aside from the fact that an injured Embiid averaged 30/12 on 59% TS% in the playoffs against persistent double teams, he was +51 in a 7 game series we lost?

Meanwhile if since you want to talk shots (0-12) so much, how about the fact that Ben Simmons took 3 fourth quarter shots? Not 3 a game. Three shots across seven fourth quarters. He would bring the ball up, dump it off, and hide in the dunker or lane line almost 70% of possessions. Shot historically bad from the line. Didn't even bother offensive rebounding in the 4th, or posting up mismatches. Passed up a wide open dunk. Made everyone else's job on offense harder.

And after he has one of the most embarrassing playoff performances of any max contract player ever, you want to point the finger at other players for not carrying him over the line?

This is low, even by your standards.

[Mik317]

I hope Ben is paying you well for this man.

no **** its not only his fault...but he does play a major role in that. Constantly shifting the blame to others does not help his case at all.

Biid could be better. But he had a bad wheel and it caught up to him. Tobias could be better. But while he missed a shitton of bunnies...he kept trying. Bringing up Shake is lame as **** but yeah he sucked ass too...however thats more on the FO for expecting a late round pick to be that much of a difference maker. Each and every player and coach have logical reasons for thier downfalls. Ben simply does not. You cannot be a NBA player and shoot 33% from the line. You cannot be 6'11 and be scared to dunk the damn ball on Trae Young's little ass. Its not even about shooting jumpers at this point. Your guy was scared to even take layups. He was getting locked up by Old Ass Gallo. Biid atleast was struggling against a good/great defender and triple teams (most of which caused by your boy). So miss me with this "bu-but what about so and so ****" this time when it comes to Ben. He layed the biggest egg of everyone and needs to be called out on that and get better. He plays even average this series and we are probably still alive. Thats with Embiid dying in the second halfs; thats with Tobias missing every layup; thats with Doc being brain dead.......

Thats pure facts.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

I'm just allergic to stupidity.

The whole team performed poorly not just Ben.

That's what the coaching staff and GM says, not the idiots on this board.

Hahaha clearly you can't read between the lines. Talk about stupidity. Sure everyone could have improved but Simmons' no show was historic. They can't completely rail on him because they need to maintain trade value. Sure call us dumb... How about all the articles by respected journalists that day Simmons needs to go this summer? How about former NBA executive John Hollinger who says Simmons needs to be traded? Are they stupid too? Are you telling me you're the only one who is woke enough to believe that Ben fits on this team?

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Maybe the team needs trades yes. But to act like it was all Ben's fault and Joel didn't go 0-12 in a half or Toby didnt score 4 points in 6 quarters or anything and just jump up and down on Ben is well, pathetic. Shake Milton averaging 4 points in the playoffs...

Ben is getting paid like a superstar. He's going to be expected to perform like one. Not like some glorified role player. Not a Anthony Roberson with handles. Ben is absolutely to be held accountable for the us losing that series. Yes...We lost it collectively. Tobias Harris ghosted on us too. I won't be heart broken if we trade him as well. Embiid had one bad half against the Hawks...One...bad...half...On a bum knee. None of this should fall on him. Ben would literally dribble down the floor at full speed...Stop at the free throw line and pass the ball back to Seth Curry as opposed to attacking the defender that was completely at Bens mercy should he have decided to try and score. Ben passed up WIDE OPEN dunks! He folded! Wimped right out! Couldn't handle the pressure! He's going to get **** for that. We all love Simmons, but damn dude! He needs to look to score more than he does. We can't play 4 V 5 on offense. It's too easy for opposing defenses and it forces Embiid to play like superman every single game. My God, I can only imagine how much better this offense would run if we just had a guard that could play in a halfcourt playoff setting!

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The team doesn't fit. It's not just Simmons. Here's a good article from this very site you all should read.

https://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/263063/The-End-Of-The-Embiid-Simmons-Sixers-Mess