2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

[agkagk]

Easy:

Cap space get Lonzo

Draft get Mobley, Trey Murphy and Bassey

Exceptions get Birch

After signing Ball match/sign GTJ

FVV, Flynn
Ball, GTJ, Harris, Bembry
OG, Murphy, Watson
Siakam, Boucher, Watanabe
Mobley, Birch, Bassey, Gillespie

Some on 2ways

Ball can play the 1 or 2, whick means we can invest in big wings and bigs in the draft.

Hoping OG takes another step as a creator

Yup this is more or less what “a perfect world” looks like this off-season.

Other than the knicks, Snowballs chance lonzo ball plays in a northern market.

[_MidNight_]

Could Boucher get us a low enough pick to get one of Sengun or Kai Jones?

What do you guys think his value is, and what pick can we get for him?

[livingoffgrass]

Completely unrealistic trade, but whatever.

Siakam + Vanvleet + Boucher for Love + Prince + Nance Jr. + 3rd overall pick.

Vanvleet - Garland
Sexton - Garland
Okoro - Osman
Siakam - Boucher
Allen - Boucher

Raps rebuild around Suggs + Green + OG + Trent Jr.

I'd rather see an all in rebuild move than a move for someone like Lillard.

[bboyskinnylegs]

Could Boucher get us a low enough pick to get one of Sengun or Kai Jones?

What do you guys think his value is, and what pick can we get for him?

I think you need a lotto pick to get Sengun or Kai Jones, I see them both being drafted somewhere in the 7-14 range. I don't think Boucher can get you that (though maybe he could net you a non-lotto 1st).

[_MidNight_]

Could Boucher get us a low enough pick to get one of Sengun or Kai Jones?

What do you guys think his value is, and what pick can we get for him?

I think you need a lotto pick to get Sengun or Kai Jones, I see them both being drafted somewhere in the 7-14 range. I don't think Boucher can get you that (though maybe he could net you a non-lotto 1st).

I think you maybe right. They both could be gone when the lottery teams are finished. I just have this feeling one might be available IF Boucher can get us the OKC 16th or the Rockets 18th pick.

[Morris_Shatford]

Could Boucher get us a low enough pick to get one of Sengun or Kai Jones?

What do you guys think his value is, and what pick can we get for him?

Boucher to Golden State has been floated on the trade board a lot;
However I feel that 14 is high for Boucher and I expected the back of the teens or early 20s.

Maybe Boucher and both seconds gets you into the mid teens?

[Morris_Shatford]

Completely unrealistic trade, but whatever.

Siakam + Vanvleet + Boucher for Love + Prince + Nance Jr. + 3rd overall pick.

Vanvleet - Garland
Sexton - Garland
Okoro - Osman
Siakam - Boucher
Allen - Boucher

Raps rebuild around Suggs + Green + OG + Trent Jr.

I'd rather see an all in rebuild move than a move for someone like Lillard.

I think Love's contract is so bad on its own the Cavs almost certainly need to include picks to move it (At least right now given Loves most recent injury issues).

While what you are proposing is not my particular brand of whisky;
I think Love + 3 for Siakam + Future Draft Assets potentially is close from a value perspective.

However, I don't see the Cavs moving 3.
They likely end up with Mobley (which allows them to S&T Allen) or Green (which allows them to trade Sexton) and then evaluate a pretty solid young core for a season to see exactly what you have before they decide to add significant older and expensive talent.

[Morris_Shatford]

How much is Richaun Holmes expected to get?

I wouldn’t mind a center rotation of Holmes and Birch. We don’t necessarily need a star at the 5. Just solid enough to not be useless like Baynes

I have seen the range as low as 12 and as high as 20.
Maybe 15m is a realistic middle ground for a guy who is going to be 28.

[Morris_Shatford]

Apologies if this has been covered, but what's the status with Jalen Harris?
He was a 2-way, yeah? Is it a 2 year deal like most 2nd rounders? Is he a FA, UFA or RFA? Cap space to resign him?

It was surprisingly complicated to find an answer to that question;
This was the best I found:

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/toronto-raptors/jalen-harris-70701/

[alpngso]

Easy:

Cap space get Lonzo

Draft get Mobley, Trey Murphy and Bassey

Exceptions get Birch

After signing Ball match/sign GTJ

FVV, Flynn
Ball, GTJ, Harris, Bembry
OG, Murphy, Watson
Siakam, Boucher, Watanabe
Mobley, Birch, Bassey, Gillespie

Some on 2ways

Ball can play the 1 or 2, whick means we can invest in big wings and bigs in the draft.

Hoping OG takes another step as a creator

we all need some Lavar in our lives

[Raptorfan2012]

Wonder what is a better hypothetical scenario?:

Draft Mobley and Sign Lonzo Ball
Draft Suggs and Sign Holmes.

[Kinger95]

Depending on the price if we draft Mobley and don’t have such a big man issue and I wouldn’t want to block Suggs with another guard and stunt development. But depending on the price I’d try to get one of

Culver/Lonnie walker/Alexander-walker

If we take Suggs I’d be down with maybe trying to snag advija or hachimura. They’re probably wanting to compete still with Russ and Beal

[Raptors Realtor]

Completely unrealistic trade, but whatever.

Siakam + Vanvleet + Boucher for Love + Prince + Nance Jr. + 3rd overall pick.

Vanvleet - Garland
Sexton - Garland
Okoro - Osman
Siakam - Boucher
Allen - Boucher

Raps rebuild around Suggs + Green + OG + Trent Jr.

I'd rather see an all in rebuild move than a move for someone like Lillard.

Because of Love's contract and injury proneness he's not viewed as an asset anymore, so the Cavs would have to attach assets for someone to take him on. Therefore, I think that trade would be a big overpay for the Raps.

[livingoffgrass]

Completely unrealistic trade, but whatever.

Siakam + Vanvleet + Boucher for Love + Prince + Nance Jr. + 3rd overall pick.

Vanvleet - Garland
Sexton - Garland
Okoro - Osman
Siakam - Boucher
Allen - Boucher

Raps rebuild around Suggs + Green + OG + Trent Jr.

I'd rather see an all in rebuild move than a move for someone like Lillard.

Because of Love's contract and injury proneness he's not viewed as an asset anymore, so the Cavs would have to attach assets for someone to take him on. Therefore, I think that trade would be a big overpay for the Raps.

I get that Love has negative value. The whole point is to see if we can land two of the top 4 picks.

[douggood]

Wonder what is a better hypothetical scenario?:

Draft Mobley and Sign Lonzo Ball
Draft Suggs and Sign Holmes.

better is mobley and ball
but its unlikely we only have 17ish mil cap space,(upto 24 if we dont pick up option on boucher), that being said he is a RFA so no guarantee you get him anyways.

[Spida888]

Completely unrealistic trade, but whatever.

Siakam + Vanvleet + Boucher for Love + Prince + Nance Jr. + 3rd overall pick.

Vanvleet - Garland
Sexton - Garland
Okoro - Osman
Siakam - Boucher
Allen - Boucher

Raps rebuild around Suggs + Green + OG + Trent Jr.

I'd rather see an all in rebuild move than a move for someone like Lillard.

Because of Love's contract and injury proneness he's not viewed as an asset anymore, so the Cavs would have to attach assets for someone to take him on. Therefore, I think that trade would be a big overpay for the Raps.

I get that Love has negative value. The whole point is to see if we can land two of the top 4 picks.

Yeah I had similar suggestion earlier with Siakam + 2023 FRP for Love + #3. I'm fine throwing in Boucher in there and even the 2 SRPs if it nets us the #3 pick, but I won't include Fred as well.

Speaking of bad contracts, Wall and Gordon are pretty bad contracts for Houston. Another angle is if we can pry the #2 pick from them by taking their bad contracts and giving assets since their owner is notoriously cheap and in debt.

All that said, I think there's a higher chance we use our #4 to trade up instead.

I hear you though, 2 top 4 picks would be a dream.

[Morris_Shatford]

Wonder what is a better hypothetical scenario?:

Draft Mobley and Sign Lonzo Ball
Draft Suggs and Sign Holmes.

I think Ball will likely command near max salary;
Even if you clear all the NGs off the books and move Boucher for draft capital and no inbound salary you may find it challenging to fit Ball under the cap.

Holmes may be attainable with our potential cap space but I have concerns about what the annual number would be.
He will be 28 on opening day and committing to lets say 4/60 may not be the best investment even though I think he is a perfect fit.

[livingoffgrass]

Because of Love's contract and injury proneness he's not viewed as an asset anymore, so the Cavs would have to attach assets for someone to take him on. Therefore, I think that trade would be a big overpay for the Raps.

I get that Love has negative value. The whole point is to see if we can land two of the top 4 picks.

Yeah I had similar suggestion earlier with Siakam + 2023 FRP for Love + #3. I'm fine throwing in Boucher in there and even the 2 SRPs if it nets us the #3 pick, but I won't include Fred as well.

Speaking of bad contracts, Wall and Gordon are pretty bad contracts for Houston. Another angle is if we can pry the #2 pick from them by taking their bad contracts and giving assets since their owner is notoriously cheap and in debt.

All that said, I think there's a higher chance we use our #4 to trade up instead.

I hear you though, 2 top 4 picks would be a dream.

Did you post it on the trade board? Would be interested in hearing what non-Raptor fans think in terms of value. FVV isn't a make or break for me honestly, but I agree the Raps won't trade him. He's basically team captain now.

[alpngso]

Siakam <=> Porzingis + Brunsun + 25’ Mavs 1st rd pick per Bleacher Report

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2945123-trades-to-replace-the-nbas-most-disappointing-starters

[Morris_Shatford]

Siakam <=> Porzingis + Brunsun + 25’ Mavs 1st rd pick per Bleacher Report

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2945123-trades-to-replace-the-nbas-most-disappointing-starters

The Mavs would like do that every day of the week;
The Raps should not.