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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1061 » by Hal14 » Sun Jun 27, 2021 3:52 pm

winsomme2 wrote:Watching some Combine Scrimmage highlights.

I like what I'm seeing from Austin Reaves, Quentin Grimes, and Moses Wright.

Of those 3 I like Wright the most. Really would prefer someone with some more size who can play some 4 rather yet another wing added to the logjam.

There's a lot to like about Wright. Had a 14.5% rebounding rate which is really good. 41% shooter from 3, 6'9", pretty good passer too. 22 year old senior so will be able to come in and contribute right away, rather than needing a bunch of time to develop..
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Post#1063 » by Hal14 » Sun Jun 27, 2021 8:50 pm

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Damn, Hyland looks good. Not really a position of need but this dude looks too good, too fast, too talented to pass up if he's still there at 45. The shooting, the play making, the motor/hustle. Sounds like his stock is rising so much that he might go 1st round though..
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Post#1064 » by Hal14 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:17 am

Watching some more footage of Aldama - he actually does seem pretty quick on his feet, agile, nimble out there, seeing some clips where he's able to defend well out on the perimeter. I know it's lower competition level, but talent is talent.

This play you have to be impressed with the footwork and how fluid he moves on the court and handles the ball and shoots it. Very smooth, step back 3, looks like Dirk a little bit.

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Next video here, really like the play at 3:10, a move like that for a 6'11" dude is very impressive, especially at age 20. Has a defender all over him, makes a hard drive, then creates some space with a nice hesitation move before finishing strong at the rim with left hand. Overall in this video he looks pretty quick on his feet, mobile, agile and has decent lateral quickness on D, closes out on shooters well, some good help D. At 4:56 mark, looks like Nowitzki on this play, faces up from the wing, tries to drive on defender, then backs him down in post, turns out of the post and hits a tough fadeaway jumper with hand in face from 18-feet, nice! Another play that you simply don't see 6'11" dudes make, especially ones who are only 20 yrs old. At 5:49 really smooth on the catch and shoot 3, good footwork setting his feet and squaring up prior to the catch so that once he catches it he can go right up into the shot. Again, you just don't see this stuff from 6'11" dudes, especially ones who are only 20. 6:33 mark Aldama's man has the ball in the corner - Aldama defending him tight out on perimeter so the offensive player tries to drive on Aldama, but Aldama does nice job moving his feet and sticking with his man, doesn't allow his man to get a look at the basket and has to kick it out to the corner.



Last video, really like the play at 1:31 mark, you see him get ball in corner, backs up to give himself some more room to operate with through the legs dribble, then drives on his man, faking one way before leaning in the other way, goes up with shot and draws foul - nice skill level for a 6'11" kid, especially one who's only 20. Really nice play at 2:19 mark, ball fake to try and get the defender off-balance, then a hard drive to the rim, which gets the defender leaning towards the basket cause the defender thinks Aldama is taking it all the way to the rim but then Aldama stops on a dime and hits the step back jumper around the foul line, really smooth, good footwork, good skill level for a 6'11" dude, especially one who's only 20. 3:11 mark faces up from perimeter, looks to take his man off the dribble. Again he likes that ball fake where he fakes a cross court pass, he really sells it to - which allows him to get a step on his defender when driving, from there he accelerates to the rim for a strong finish - showing nice combination of size, skill and quickness - very fluid for a 6'11" dude, especially ones who's only 20.



This guy could be a steal at 45. Oh yeah and word on the street is he's actually now 7'0" (with a 7'2" wingspan).
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Post#1065 » by Hal14 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:28 pm

Liking what I'm seeing from this guy. First impression is, similar to Herb Jones except Watford looks bigger, stronger and 2 yrs younger:



One of the dudes in the NBA draft forum on realgm has him in their top 25..
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Post#1066 » by playa-hater » Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:29 pm

Hal14 wrote:Watching some more footage of Aldama - he actually does seem pretty quick on his feet, agile, nimble out there, seeing some clips where he's able to defend well out on the perimeter. I know it's lower competition level, but talent is talent.

This play you have to be impressed with the footwork and how fluid he moves on the court and handles the ball and shoots it. Very smooth, step back 3, looks like Dirk a little bit.

Read on Twitter


Next video here, really like the play at 3:10, a move like that for a 6'11" dude is very impressive, especially at age 20. Has a defender all over him, makes a hard drive, then creates some space with a nice hesitation move before finishing strong at the rim with left hand. Overall in this video he looks pretty quick on his feet, mobile, agile and has decent lateral quickness on D, closes out on shooters well, some good help D. At 4:56 mark, looks like Nowitzki on this play, faces up from the wing, tries to drive on defender, then backs him down in post, turns out of the post and hits a tough fadeaway jumper with hand in face from 18-feet, nice! Another play that you simply don't see 6'11" dudes make, especially ones who are only 20 yrs old. At 5:49 really smooth on the catch and shoot 3, good footwork setting his feet and squaring up prior to the catch so that once he catches it he can go right up into the shot. Again, you just don't see this stuff from 6'11" dudes, especially ones who are only 20. 6:33 mark Aldama's man has the ball in the corner - Aldama defending him tight out on perimeter so the offensive player tries to drive on Aldama, but Aldama does nice job moving his feet and sticking with his man, doesn't allow his man to get a look at the basket and has to kick it out to the corner.



Last video, really like the play at 1:31 mark, you see him get ball in corner, backs up to give himself some more room to operate with through the legs dribble, then drives on his man, faking one way before leaning in the other way, goes up with shot and draws foul - nice skill level for a 6'11" kid, especially one who's only 20. Really nice play at 2:19 mark, ball fake to try and get the defender off-balance, then a hard drive to the rim, which gets the defender leaning towards the basket cause the defender thinks Aldama is taking it all the way to the rim but then Aldama stops on a dime and hits the step back jumper around the foul line, really smooth, good footwork, good skill level for a 6'11" dude, especially one who's only 20. 3:11 mark faces up from perimeter, looks to take his man off the dribble. Again he likes that ball fake where he fakes a cross court pass, he really sells it to - which allows him to get a step on his defender when driving, from there he accelerates to the rim for a strong finish - showing nice combination of size, skill and quickness - very fluid for a 6'11" dude, especially ones who's only 20.



This guy could be a steal at 45. Oh yeah and word on the street is he's actually now 7'0" (with a 7'2" wingspan).


looks good, but need and there are quite a few others I like more.

Of course there is no need if and until Boston trades RW.
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Post#1067 » by Hal14 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:38 pm

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Hal14 wrote:Watching some more footage of Aldama - he actually does seem pretty quick on his feet, agile, nimble out there, seeing some clips where he's able to defend well out on the perimeter. I know it's lower competition level, but talent is talent.

This play you have to be impressed with the footwork and how fluid he moves on the court and handles the ball and shoots it. Very smooth, step back 3, looks like Dirk a little bit.

Read on Twitter


Next video here, really like the play at 3:10, a move like that for a 6'11" dude is very impressive, especially at age 20. Has a defender all over him, makes a hard drive, then creates some space with a nice hesitation move before finishing strong at the rim with left hand. Overall in this video he looks pretty quick on his feet, mobile, agile and has decent lateral quickness on D, closes out on shooters well, some good help D. At 4:56 mark, looks like Nowitzki on this play, faces up from the wing, tries to drive on defender, then backs him down in post, turns out of the post and hits a tough fadeaway jumper with hand in face from 18-feet, nice! Another play that you simply don't see 6'11" dudes make, especially ones who are only 20 yrs old. At 5:49 really smooth on the catch and shoot 3, good footwork setting his feet and squaring up prior to the catch so that once he catches it he can go right up into the shot. Again, you just don't see this stuff from 6'11" dudes, especially ones who are only 20. 6:33 mark Aldama's man has the ball in the corner - Aldama defending him tight out on perimeter so the offensive player tries to drive on Aldama, but Aldama does nice job moving his feet and sticking with his man, doesn't allow his man to get a look at the basket and has to kick it out to the corner.



Last video, really like the play at 1:31 mark, you see him get ball in corner, backs up to give himself some more room to operate with through the legs dribble, then drives on his man, faking one way before leaning in the other way, goes up with shot and draws foul - nice skill level for a 6'11" kid, especially one who's only 20. Really nice play at 2:19 mark, ball fake to try and get the defender off-balance, then a hard drive to the rim, which gets the defender leaning towards the basket cause the defender thinks Aldama is taking it all the way to the rim but then Aldama stops on a dime and hits the step back jumper around the foul line, really smooth, good footwork, good skill level for a 6'11" dude, especially one who's only 20. 3:11 mark faces up from perimeter, looks to take his man off the dribble. Again he likes that ball fake where he fakes a cross court pass, he really sells it to - which allows him to get a step on his defender when driving, from there he accelerates to the rim for a strong finish - showing nice combination of size, skill and quickness - very fluid for a 6'11" dude, especially ones who's only 20.



This guy could be a steal at 45. Oh yeah and word on the street is he's actually now 7'0" (with a 7'2" wingspan).


looks good, but need and there are quite a few others I like more.

Of course there is no need if and until Boston trades RW.

I think Aldama could be a 4. Similar height/weight/wingspan to Kai Jones and Jones is considered a combo 4/5 type guy in the NBA. Aldama and Jones are also similar in terms of quickness/agility. Both same age. Jones shot 38% from 3, Aldama shot 37% from 3. Jones is more athletic and better perimeter defender, more switchable. Jones faced better competition. but Aldama has better handle, better passing, more refined moves with the ball on perimeter, in transition and around the basket. Both still a little raw but very high ceiling with the combination of size, skill and quickness/agility.

Overall you'd have to rate Jones higher, but I'm not seeing much of a gap. In Aldama, you could get a guy at 45 who has the potential to be as good as a guy who will go in the top 16 (Jones).

In terms of need, I would prefer either:
-a stretch 4 who may be able to play some stretch 5 (Aldama, Greg Brown, Todd, Moses Wright, Raiquan Gray, Trendon Watford) or -a 3 man who has really good size for the 3 spot and may be able to play some stretch 4 (Wieskamp, Herb Jones, Vrenz)
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Post#1068 » by Hal14 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 7:22 pm

Greg Brown throws down crazy dunk at the combine, showing crazy athleticism and fluidity:
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Post#1069 » by Bleeding Green » Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:08 pm

Wait for it? It happens in the first 2 seconds of the clip.
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Post#1070 » by Hal14 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:14 pm

Damn, best shooter in the draft:
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It's looking like Hyland will likely be gone before pick 45 but if he somehow slips we've got to think long and hard about taking him..
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Post#1071 » by playa-hater » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:19 pm

Hal14 wrote:Greg Brown throws down crazy dunk at the combine, showing crazy athleticism and fluidity:
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Not saying he would have been our 16th pick, but I did say he should be considered.. now of course it doesn't matter.
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Post#1072 » by playa-hater » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:22 pm

Hal14 wrote:Damn, best shooter in the draft:
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It's looking like Hyland will likely be gone before pick 45 but if he somehow slips we've got to think long and hard about taking him..


The evolution of the game has players shooting/pulling farther and farther out. Could be Dame part 2.. even if he is Dame lite.. too bad we don't have any first rders..
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Post#1073 » by Hal14 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:23 pm

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Hal14 wrote:Greg Brown throws down crazy dunk at the combine, showing crazy athleticism and fluidity:
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Not saying he would have been our 16th pick, but I did say he should be considered.. now of course it doesn't matter.

You never know man - it seems unlikely but it is possible that Brown slips to 45..

Then we'd have 3 guys named Brown on the team, LOL.

Greg Brown has high upside but I think for our team trying to contend next year he would probably spend most of the season on the G-League team working on his game and working on his body. Then by 2022-2023 season, you unleash him and let him run wild.
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Post#1074 » by Hal14 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:31 pm

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Hal14 wrote:Damn, best shooter in the draft:
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It's looking like Hyland will likely be gone before pick 45 but if he somehow slips we've got to think long and hard about taking him..


The evolution of the game has players shooting/pulling farther and farther out. Could be Dame part 2.. even if he is Dame lite.. too bad we don't have any first rders..

Yeah Hyland is a unique player. I can see the Dame comparison but Hyland plays this high octane, really fast, up tempo style which is different than Dame. Hyland also measured at the combine at 6'4" with a 6'9" wingspan so he's got good size/length. Very intriguing player with that combination of size/length, can play the 1 or the 2, lethal shooter, also really quick off the dribble getting to the rim, decent passer and just has this motor, really plays fast which makes me think he'll be able to adjust pretty well to the faster NBA game. He's probably gonna go either late 1st or early 2nd round so we'll probably just miss him.
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Post#1076 » by Hal14 » Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:21 am


Definitely the best shooting center in the draft..
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Post#1077 » by playa-hater » Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:38 am



looks like the type of center we need with Tatum. But damn for sure need to make at least one trade of RW and/or TT or most likely both.
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Post#1078 » by CavePerson » Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:16 pm

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Post#1079 » by Hal14 » Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:41 pm

Hal14 wrote:Liking what I'm seeing from this guy. First impression is, similar to Herb Jones except Watford looks bigger, stronger and 2 yrs younger:



One of the dudes in the NBA draft forum on realgm has him in their top 25..

I was really impressed with what I saw from Watford in the highlight video and was thinking he'd be perfect for this Celtics team, a perfect stretch 4. But i was wondering why all the highlights were on offense and none on defense.

Then I watched his scouting report video by Adam Spinella and continued to be impressed by the first half of the video - then came the weaknesses section of the video and boom, there it was. This guy cannot play defense for sh&t, no wonder he isn't ranked higher. Ugh..



Now, to check out Kessler Edwards..
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Post#1080 » by Andrew McCeltic » Tue Jun 29, 2021 2:02 pm

Bummed we missed on Poku last year.

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