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2021 Playoff and Offseason Speculation - the playoffs. PLAYOFFS????

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Post#4581 » by Saberestar » Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:43 pm

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bigfoot wrote:Wonder if Crowder and Paul could entice Kelly Olynk to sign with the Suns. He would be an upgrade to Frank and could provide time at both PF and C. Not sure he would go for the MLE.


I'd love Olynyk as a 4/5 man in this team. But I doubt it happens. Too much money for someone who wouldn't get a ton of minutes in our squad. The fact that he's averaging 19/8/4 since moving to Houston is going to price him out of our range most likely anyway.

His Per36 in Houston is an insane line of: 22/10/5 on 55/40/85 splits.

Literally All-NBA level production. He's gonna get some money.

But those stats are on a super small sample size and on a terrible team.

He has been eight seasons already in the league, and before that period on the Heat his averages has been pretty consistent...10 points and 5 rebounds with decent shooting and playing 20-25 minutes per game.

He is 30 years old, so I would be cautious about offer him a big contract. I think he will get Saric's money ($27M/3 years)...but not much more than that.
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Post#4582 » by Barkley6 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:49 pm

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bigfoot wrote:Wonder if Crowder and Paul could entice Kelly Olynk to sign with the Suns. He would be an upgrade to Frank and could provide time at both PF and C. Not sure he would go for the MLE.


I'd love Olynyk as a 4/5 man in this team. But I doubt it happens. Too much money for someone who wouldn't get a ton of minutes in our squad. The fact that he's averaging 19/8/4 since moving to Houston is going to price him out of our range most likely anyway.

His Per36 in Houston is an insane line of: 22/10/5 on 55/40/85 splits.

Literally All-NBA level production. He's gonna get some money.

But those stats are on a super small sample size and on a terrible team.

He has been eight seasons already in the league, and before that period on the Heat his averages has been pretty consistent...10 points and 5 rebounds with decent shooting and playing 20-25 minutes per game.

He is 30 years old, so I would be cautious about offer him a big contract. I think he will get Saric's money ($27M/3 years)...but not much more than that.


Someone is going to pay him big money. Age is a factor, but his game doesn't rely on lift or athleticism so it's less of an issue. There are a ton of NBA level big men on the market, but aside from Richuan Holmes, very few who are starting caliber. Someone will overpay Olynyk to be their stretch 4/5.
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Post#4583 » by BobbieL » Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:21 pm

Laker fans thinking they are getting Damian Lillard for the pupu platter of Kuzma, Harrell, KCP and THT plus a couple picks.. :lol: :banghead: :lol: :lol: :crazy:
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Post#4584 » by Barkley6 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:29 pm

BobbieL wrote:Laker fans thinking they are getting Damian Lillard for the pupu platter of Kuzma, Harrell, KCP and THT plus a couple picks.. :lol: :banghead: :lol: :lol: :crazy:



Wow, 3 guys that couldn't stay on the floor they played so bad in Round 1 of the playoffs and KCP for Dame? Lakers fans were always delusional but that's next level.
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Post#4585 » by handsome salary » Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:42 pm

Reverse the Curse: Suns 2021. In 1969 the Suns lose a coin toss to the Bucks for the right to pick Kareem. The Bucks go on to win the championship a couple of seasons later while the Suns are still looking for their first.
Cut to 2018. Suns get their very first number one pick since having the chance in 1969. They pick big man Ayton who will anchor the defense as they beat the Bucks in the finals for their first championship.
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Post#4586 » by Qwigglez » Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:44 pm

Barkley6 wrote:
BobbieL wrote:Laker fans thinking they are getting Damian Lillard for the pupu platter of Kuzma, Harrell, KCP and THT plus a couple picks.. :lol: :banghead: :lol: :lol: :crazy:



Wow, 3 guys that couldn't stay on the floor they played so bad in Round 1 of the playoffs and KCP for Dame? Lakers fans were always delusional but that's next level.

Add in Caruso and thats almost the same offer they gave us for Devin Booker. Still regretting it to this day…
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Post#4587 » by BobbieL » Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:53 pm

Barkley6 wrote:
BobbieL wrote:Laker fans thinking they are getting Damian Lillard for the pupu platter of Kuzma, Harrell, KCP and THT plus a couple picks.. :lol: :banghead: :lol: :lol: :crazy:



Wow, 3 guys that couldn't stay on the floor they played so bad in Round 1 of the playoffs and KCP for Dame? Lakers fans were always delusional but that's next level.


The guy on twitter I was conversing with thinks THT is better than Ben Simmons. He said "THT> Simmons"
I asked Ben or Bill?

I think he was serious. Kuzma had a value a couple years ago but now - its pretty low. KCP just gets paid because he is Klutch.
Delusional

Now the Warriors could potentially offer Wiggins, Wiseman, Paschall and two picks this year for Lillard and Nurkic - that might be something for the Blazers if they want to change things up. Maybe that entices the Blazers - just not sure the Lakers offer would

Still think its Simmons in a trade with the Sixers
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Post#4588 » by King4Day » Mon Jun 28, 2021 7:21 pm

BobbieL wrote:
Barkley6 wrote:
BobbieL wrote:Laker fans thinking they are getting Damian Lillard for the pupu platter of Kuzma, Harrell, KCP and THT plus a couple picks.. :lol: :banghead: :lol: :lol: :crazy:



Wow, 3 guys that couldn't stay on the floor they played so bad in Round 1 of the playoffs and KCP for Dame? Lakers fans were always delusional but that's next level.


The guy on twitter I was conversing with thinks THT is better than Ben Simmons. He said "THT> Simmons"
I asked Ben or Bill?

I think he was serious. Kuzma had a value a couple years ago but now - its pretty low. KCP just gets paid because he is Klutch.
Delusional

Now the Warriors could potentially offer Wiggins, Wiseman, Paschall and two picks this year for Lillard and Nurkic - that might be something for the Blazers if they want to change things up. Maybe that entices the Blazers - just not sure the Lakers offer would

Still think its Simmons in a trade with the Sixers


If Portland is going to deal Lillard within the division, I expect them to get more than that. I'd ask for some future picks/swaps too. They are basically making the Warriors title contenders/favorites again for the next 3-5 years.
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Post#4589 » by King4Day » Mon Jun 28, 2021 7:22 pm

I just read on twitter that Booker will be wearing #15 for team USA in honor of his Dad. Pretty cool if true
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Post#4590 » by NapoleonII » Mon Jun 28, 2021 7:54 pm

Curry
Lillard
Klay
Green
ANyONE

would be really fun.

We'd shut their asses down and own the paint against them tho.
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Post#4591 » by Bogyo » Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:20 pm

NapoleonII wrote:Curry
Lillard
Klay
Green
ANyONE

would be really fun.

We'd shut their asses down and own the paint against them tho.


Yeah, I'd watch that team for sure in the regular season. Not sure if they could go all the way - like the Nets this year... I think Green is more washed than people realize (he played against bigger and stronger guys all his career), and not sure how Klay and his D are coming back after these 2 injuries. But fun on paper for sure.
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Post#4592 » by Barkley6 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:09 pm

NapoleonII wrote:Curry
Lillard
Klay
Green
ANyONE

would be really fun.

We'd shut their asses down and own the paint against them tho.


Fun team to watch, and tough to beat in the regular season, but would probably not go far in the playoffs.

Teams like us would bother them a lot with our length and switchability.
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Post#4593 » by suns12345 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:59 pm

Barkley6 wrote:
NapoleonII wrote:Curry
Lillard
Klay
Green
ANyONE

would be really fun.

We'd shut their asses down and own the paint against them tho.


Fun team to watch, and tough to beat in the regular season, but would probably not go far in the playoffs.

Teams like us would bother them a lot with our length and switchability.


Wiretap story that the Ws are trying to trade Wiseman and#7 pick for, perhaps, pascal Siakam.
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Post#4594 » by bwgood77 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:59 pm

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BobbieL wrote:
Barkley6 wrote:

Wow, 3 guys that couldn't stay on the floor they played so bad in Round 1 of the playoffs and KCP for Dame? Lakers fans were always delusional but that's next level.


The guy on twitter I was conversing with thinks THT is better than Ben Simmons. He said "THT> Simmons"
I asked Ben or Bill?

I think he was serious. Kuzma had a value a couple years ago but now - its pretty low. KCP just gets paid because he is Klutch.
Delusional

Now the Warriors could potentially offer Wiggins, Wiseman, Paschall and two picks this year for Lillard and Nurkic - that might be something for the Blazers if they want to change things up. Maybe that entices the Blazers - just not sure the Lakers offer would

Still think its Simmons in a trade with the Sixers


If Portland is going to deal Lillard within the division, I expect them to get more than that. I'd ask for some future picks/swaps too. They are basically making the Warriors title contenders/favorites again for the next 3-5 years.


You mean in the conference? Divisions don't really matter anyway I guess.

I'm sure if they deal him they would prefer him to go to another conference. I don't know if they'd want Simmons. I can't see him going to GS.

I've seen a FVV, Boucher, #4 and a couple future firsts for him.
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Post#4595 » by irish22022 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:55 pm

Thoughts on getting in on the markaanan sweepstake? I think he'd look good at PF on our team. I don't know what he's like defensively tho
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Post#4596 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:59 pm

I wouldn't give up much for him
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Post#4597 » by King4Day » Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:18 am

irish22022 wrote:Thoughts on getting in on the markaanan sweepstake? I think he'd look good at PF on our team. I don't know what he's like defensively tho


I'd pass unless he's taking the vet min.
I don't believe he plays D.
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Post#4598 » by BobbieL » Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:25 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
King4Day wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
The guy on twitter I was conversing with thinks THT is better than Ben Simmons. He said "THT> Simmons"
I asked Ben or Bill?

I think he was serious. Kuzma had a value a couple years ago but now - its pretty low. KCP just gets paid because he is Klutch.
Delusional

Now the Warriors could potentially offer Wiggins, Wiseman, Paschall and two picks this year for Lillard and Nurkic - that might be something for the Blazers if they want to change things up. Maybe that entices the Blazers - just not sure the Lakers offer would

Still think its Simmons in a trade with the Sixers


If Portland is going to deal Lillard within the division, I expect them to get more than that. I'd ask for some future picks/swaps too. They are basically making the Warriors title contenders/favorites again for the next 3-5 years.


You mean in the conference? Divisions don't really matter anyway I guess.

I'm sure if they deal him they would prefer him to go to another conference. I don't know if they'd want Simmons. I can't see him going to GS.

I've seen a FVV, Boucher, #4 and a couple future firsts for him.


Thats an interesting trade -- Lillard to the Raptors

The Siakam to the WArriors is also an interesting one that Hollinger speculated on. NBA always has an offseason with many rumors but also actual trades
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Post#4599 » by Barkley6 » Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:28 pm

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irish22022 wrote:Thoughts on getting in on the markaanan sweepstake? I think he'd look good at PF on our team. I don't know what he's like defensively tho


I'd pass unless he's taking the vet min.
I don't believe he plays D.


Not a good defender at all. But definitely would be a Saric upgrade on the offensive side. If we swapped Saric and #29 for a Markkanen S/T for about $10/per, I'd be all for that.
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Post#4600 » by Ghost of Kleine » Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:35 pm

Barkley6 wrote:
King4Day wrote:
irish22022 wrote:Thoughts on getting in on the markaanan sweepstake? I think he'd look good at PF on our team. I don't know what he's like defensively tho


I'd pass unless he's taking the vet min.
I don't believe he plays D.


Not a good defender at all. But definitely would be a Saric upgrade on the offensive side. If we swapped Saric and #29 for a Markkanen S/T for about $10/per, I'd be all for that.


I'm with you on replacing Saric brother! And Markannen would be an offensive upgrade to Saric for sure. Although neither really plays defense though. And what's worse is that Markannen will be needing an extension this summer too! I surely wouldn't give up a draft pick for him currently with those considerations, As draft picks still represent 4 yrs of relatively low cost contractual control. This will be huge for us going forward with so many max contracts looming soon. Plus, If were being candid, You could just as easily get a better overall version of Markannen for only a few million in the 2nd round in Jay Huff!
http://www.tankathon.com/players/jay-huff




** Both videos are only about a minuteand a half. Please check out both, And tell me (for the overall cost) who would you rather have? Markannen with no defense at around 14-18 ( market value extension)? Or Jay Huff at 1-2 million on a 4 yr controlled rookie scale contract? Huff has also played at both the 4 and 5 spots too, So he'd be interchangable with any of Smith, Ayton or even Saric if necessary.

Ideally, This off season we could perhaps trade Saric and Crowder and a future protected first to Detroit for Jerami Grant and a 2nd? Or to Houston- Saric, Crowder and a future protected first for Christian Wood, DJ Augustine, and a 2022 first (least value)? But regardless, We need to dump Saric and upgrade with anyone better! :nod:
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