Mavs Offseason - 21/22 - what do we do from here?

[arkuo]

THJ just creating fake market demand for his services

[Mavrelous]

Memphis lacks shooting, they could go after him, NOP need a PG more, other than that, it's Mavs and Heat only.

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[arkuo]

I guess the Mavs FO are also unsure about bringing THJ back. Which made his camp send out feelers to create hype for his services. These things normally don't happen if you are sure to re-sign. The Mavs are probably checking their options too. Locking a one dimensional player to a mutli year deal is risky. That's buying the cart before the horse.

THJ can be sent to another team via S&T. The question is just who needs his shooting at that position and what Dallas can get out of it. The other option is just straight up signing someone else. Not that big of a difference if his cap hold is that big.

[arkuo]

Memphis lacks shooting, they could go after him, NOP need a PG more, other than that, it's Mavs and Heat only.

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Utah could use THJ. They're desperately going to try to improve their roster after a disappointing playoff exit but they are over the cap. They will look to dump older players to improve on some aspects especially with Conley being a year closer to retirement.

Joe Ingles + Royce O'Neale for a signed and traded THJ should work cap wise. In terms of value, Ingles is pretty much toast. So he's just an expiring contract for 2022. Royce O'Neale is a good 3&D guy, defends well and shoots 38% from 3. Could work.

[arkuo]

Another option si calling Toronto for Siakam. From what we know online they can be offered Wiseman and #7 from this year's draft. But the thing is, once they rebuild after Siakam, the #7 pick doesn't do anything for them this soon. Too early to compete IMO. Might as well tank and get even more assets.

If Masai is creative and can bank on rolling he dice on Dallas blowing up the team in 2024, he can trade Siakam now who is like 27 by the way, so they have no realistic chance of winning with his timeline, he can trade Siakam for THJ, DFS, Brunson + 2 first rounders (2023, and 2025). Those picks could be something if it doesnt work out for Dallas. Same deal Minnesota got for KG.

For Dallas, it's for all the marbles now to try to win with that squad. Obviously some more moves are needed to fill out the wings. Maybe Danny Green for the MLE and then some. Would adding Siakam get Dallas over the hump? He can be a very good #2 guy.

C- Porzingis / Powell
PF- Siakam / Kleber
SF- D.Green /J.Green
SG- ??? / ???
PG- Doncic / Burke

[Mavrelous]

I'm talking about teams with cap space.

[Apz]

Another option si calling Toronto for Siakam. From what we know online they can be offered Wiseman and #7 from this year's draft. But the thing is, once they rebuild after Siakam, the #7 pick doesn't do anything for them this soon. Too early to compete IMO. Might as well tank and get even more assets.

If Masai is creative and can bank on rolling he dice on Dallas blowing up the team in 2024, he can trade Siakam now who is like 27 by the way, so they have no realistic chance of winning with his timeline, he can trade Siakam for THJ, DFS, Brunson + 2 first rounders (2023, and 2025). Those picks could be something if it doesnt work out for Dallas. Same deal Minnesota got for KG.

For Dallas, it's for all the marbles now to try to win with that squad. Obviously some more moves are needed to fill out the wings. Maybe Danny Green for the MLE and then some. Would adding Siakam get Dallas over the hump? He can be a very good #2 guy.

C- Porzingis / Powell
PF- Siakam / Kleber
SF- D.Green /J.Green
SG- ??? / ???
PG- Doncic / Burke

If NY pays for siakam with our picks they own im fine with it. If u just dobt remember that NY own our 23 pick(that id protected til 27) and think we would pay all that for siakam im against it. We cant keep throwing 1sts at uncertain players, and by the look of it siakam in my eyes is down to a lottoprotected 1st in value until he proves he can get back to what he was 2 years ago

[Mike lorenzo]

Memphis lacks shooting, they could go after him, NOP need a PG more, other than that, it's Mavs and Heat only.

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Allen / Melton / Bane shooting around 40 of 3 ... Tim is a better player .. but not to justify 20 million, in my opinion .. considering that they are young guys with a margin of better.

[Mavrelous]

I wouldn't trust Allen, he's a trouble maker and bad attitude, compare to THJ whose a consumate pro.

[arkuo]

To utilize what we currently have as all options have us going over the cap this summer, we have to go with these to maximize what we have:

- S&T JJ Redick to BKN. Work a 3 way deal if possible.
- S&T THJ
- Hope JRich opts out. But if he does opt in, he's most likely traded as well
- Once over the cap, use the MLE on RIchaun Holmes and promise a starting spot? Maybe that will convince him? I dunno.

[JD45]

To utilize what we currently have as all options have us going over the cap this summer, we have to go with these to maximize what we have:

- S&T JJ Redick to BKN. Work a 3 way deal if possible.
- S&T THJ
- Hope JRich opts out. But if he does opt in, he's most likely traded as well
- Once over the cap, use the MLE on RIchaun Holmes and promise a starting spot? Maybe that will convince him? I dunno.

I think JJ Redick is on to his youtuber career. I doubt any team is going to sign him.

[dirkforpres]

- S&T JJ Redick to BKN. Work a 3 way deal if possible.

Redick is a minimum contract player. No one is ever going to S&T for a minimum conteact

- S&T THJ

This seems likely if Dallas doesn’t re-sign. Miami will want to save cap and have a plethora of 2s that Hardaway doesn’t make sense on the same team as

- Hope JRich opts out. But if he does opt in, he's most likely traded as well

He’s 100% opting in. No team out there will ever offer him anything close to the contract he’s playing under for now. Unfortunately, that also means he’s practically useless in a trade too

- Once over the cap, use the MLE on RIchaun Holmes and promise a starting spot? Maybe that will convince him? I dunno.

Holmes should (and will) get more than the MLE. I’d love to get him here, but I think unless we trade KP or Maxi, it’s not going to make sense dollars-wise.

Trading KP for Holmes and Hield
Trading Hardaway, Green, and 2 pick swaps for Herro
Trade Kleber and fillers for Markkanen
Sign Dennis Smith

would be my ideal offseason

[arkuo]

To utilize what we currently have as all options have us going over the cap this summer, we have to go with these to maximize what we have:

- S&T JJ Redick to BKN. Work a 3 way deal if possible.
- S&T THJ
- Hope JRich opts out. But if he does opt in, he's most likely traded as well
- Once over the cap, use the MLE on RIchaun Holmes and promise a starting spot? Maybe that will convince him? I dunno.

I think JJ Redick is on to his youtuber career. I doubt any team is going to sign him.

There have been reports that Brooklyn is interested. And he lives in BKN too so I guess that's the only way he will agree to a S&T. BKN lacked shooting around KD and Harden when Joe Harris laid an egg. But they dont have cap space so they cannot sign Redick outright. Since Dallas owns his bird rights, Dallas can capitalize on that and get something back for the trouble.

I'm thinking Dallas sends Redick to BKN.
BKN sends out Deandre Jordan to Washington who sorely needs a center.
WAS sends out Davis Bertans to Dallas.
WAS gets Deandre plus Nico Melli to make salaries match.

So you get something for Redick. Now the next thing here is to either retain THJ and surely go over the cap, or S&T him to somewhere and still go over the cap. This way you can use the MLE too.

[arkuo]

Redick is a minimum contract player. No one is ever going to S&T for a minimum conteact

I think there is something worth exploring with Redick here. BKN desperately wants to dump Deandre Jordan's contract. as they only have 2 seasons left before KD, Harden and Kyrie all become free agents again. That means they need to at least win something in the next 2 years.

If you sign Redick to a one year deal to match Deandre's salary, that's essentially an expiring contract. 2nd year team option for formality. But we all know that's an expiring deal. Similar to how Dallas signed Keith Van Horn to a one year deal from retirement just to match salaries for Jason Kidd.

But Dallas has no use for Deandre Jordan. So a 3rd team has to be involved. Some team in dire need of a center. Charlotte, Boston (pre-Horford trade) and Washington come to mind.

[arkuo]

He’s 100% opting in. No team out there will ever offer him anything close to the contract he’s playing under for now. Unfortunately, that also means he’s practically useless in a trade too

Wishful thinking, but if Carlisle loves Brunson so much, I'd add JRich (essentially an expiring) for a trade to Indiana for TJ Warren. I'd welcome that trade 10 out of 10.

Or if the Knicks as reported, they can package JRich there as well. They'll probably get a Nerlens Noel back for that deal. I actually think this could work better as Noel can protect the rim and is quick enough to play PF opposite KP for now. Without Carlisle being a prick, this could work for Noel.

At this point you probably have to retain THJ and sign Danny Green to the full MLE. That's your offseason.

C- Porzingis / Powell
PF- Noel / Kleber
SF- D. Green / DFS
SG- THJ / J.Green
PG- Doncic / Burke

[Mr B]

Memphis lacks shooting, they could go after him, NOP need a PG more, other than that, it's Mavs and Heat only.

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Utah could use THJ. They're desperately going to try to improve their roster after a disappointing playoff exit but they are over the cap. They will look to dump older players to improve on some aspects especially with Conley being a year closer to retirement.

Joe Ingles + Royce O'Neale for a signed and traded THJ should work cap wise. In terms of value, Ingles is pretty much toast. So he's just an expiring contract for 2022. Royce O'Neale is a good 3&D guy, defends well and shoots 38% from 3. Could work.

I would prefer Bogdonovic. Not sure if they’d be willing to let him go for a resigned THJ.


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[Mr B]

He’s 100% opting in. No team out there will ever offer him anything close to the contract he’s playing under for now. Unfortunately, that also means he’s practically useless in a trade too

Wishful thinking, but if Carlisle loves Brunson so much, I'd add JRich (essentially an expiring) for a trade to Indiana for TJ Warren. I'd welcome that trade 10 out of 10.

Or if the Knicks as reported, they can package JRich there as well. They'll probably get a Nerlens Noel back for that deal. I actually think this could work better as Noel can protect the rim and is quick enough to play PF opposite KP for now. Without Carlisle being a prick, this could work for Noel.

At this point you probably have to retain THJ and sign Danny Green to the full MLE. That's your offseason.

C- Porzingis / Powell
PF- Noel / Kleber
SF- D. Green / DFS
SG- THJ / J.Green
PG- Doncic / Burke

I would see if there is any way we can get Myles Turner from the Pacers. He doesn’t really fit next to Sabonis (unless they’d rather give up Sabonis). Would Carlisle be interested in Maxi/Brunson for Turner? You know Carlisle is going to want a couple of his guys on the Pacers. I would really try to figure out a way to get Turner. Then it makes it much easier to find a team willing to trade for KP.


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[Apz]

He’s 100% opting in. No team out there will ever offer him anything close to the contract he’s playing under for now. Unfortunately, that also means he’s practically useless in a trade too

Wishful thinking, but if Carlisle loves Brunson so much, I'd add JRich (essentially an expiring) for a trade to Indiana for TJ Warren. I'd welcome that trade 10 out of 10.

Or if the Knicks as reported, they can package JRich there as well. They'll probably get a Nerlens Noel back for that deal. I actually think this could work better as Noel can protect the rim and is quick enough to play PF opposite KP for now. Without Carlisle being a prick, this could work for Noel.

At this point you probably have to retain THJ and sign Danny Green to the full MLE. That's your offseason.

C- Porzingis / Powell
PF- Noel / Kleber
SF- D. Green / DFS
SG- THJ / J.Green
PG- Doncic / Burke

I would see if there is any way we can get Myles Turner from the Pacers. He doesn’t really fit next to Sabonis (unless they’d rather give up Sabonis). Would Carlisle be interested in Maxi/Brunson for Turner? You know Carlisle is going to want a couple of his guys on the Pacers. I would really try to figure out a way to get Turner. Then it makes it much easier to find a team willing to trade for KP.


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What do i miss? What makes it easier to find a team to take kp if u got turner and traded away brunson and maxi? Wouldnt it be harder since we have traded away 2 of the 4 best assets we got?

[HMFFL]

I'd like for us to pursue this trade from Sacramento.

Buddy Hield
Marvin Bagley III

For

Kristaps Porzingis
Future second (possibly lottery protected first)

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7445334

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[Mr B]

Wishful thinking, but if Carlisle loves Brunson so much, I'd add JRich (essentially an expiring) for a trade to Indiana for TJ Warren. I'd welcome that trade 10 out of 10.

Or if the Knicks as reported, they can package JRich there as well. They'll probably get a Nerlens Noel back for that deal. I actually think this could work better as Noel can protect the rim and is quick enough to play PF opposite KP for now. Without Carlisle being a prick, this could work for Noel.

At this point you probably have to retain THJ and sign Danny Green to the full MLE. That's your offseason.

C- Porzingis / Powell
PF- Noel / Kleber
SF- D. Green / DFS
SG- THJ / J.Green
PG- Doncic / Burke

I would see if there is any way we can get Myles Turner from the Pacers. He doesn’t really fit next to Sabonis (unless they’d rather give up Sabonis). Would Carlisle be interested in Maxi/Brunson for Turner? You know Carlisle is going to want a couple of his guys on the Pacers. I would really try to figure out a way to get Turner. Then it makes it much easier to find a team willing to trade for KP.


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What do i miss? What makes it easier to find a team to take kp if u got turner and traded away brunson and maxi? Wouldnt it be harder since we have traded away 2 of the 4 best assets we got?

No, I mean it would be easier for the Mavs to trade
KP since Myles Turner is a center. They wouldn’t be leaving a big hole in their front court like they would if they traded KP for a guard.


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