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Re: Giannis - No Structural Damage 

Post#121 » by Profound23 » Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:59 pm

ajb905 wrote:I'm in the don't risk it category. I've been a fan for ~35 years and know that getting to the finals/winning it all is so rare. But Giannis is too valuable to the franchise to put him in jeopardy.

With his style of play I just don't see it as a good idea of pushing him out there:
1 for the team (Giannis at 50% isn't helping much if he can't attack the rim) and
2 for his health (re-injury when he's trying to attack the rim and guys are hammering him).



This is the most important part! If he was KD who could come out and shoot....fine...give him a shot. Giannis is good because he can attack the rim on both ends (i.e. dunking and shot blocking) and hustle......those things won't happen. And if they do, he could suffer a career jeopardizing injury. If he plays you realize he shoots even more three point attempts and any time he gets close to the hoop other teams will foul him putting him at more risk for injury.

I hope I am wrong. I hope Khris and Jrue prove me wrong and win 2 of the next 3 then Giannis can come back and win the title for us. I just don't see that happening.
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Re: Giannis - No Structural Damage 

Post#122 » by AussieBuck » Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:59 pm

Well I'm now hungover on my way to work on a Thursday, not ideal. Amazed and stoked with the news, if Giannis wants to play on can we get him Blake Griffin's giant Detroit knee guard? Send Brook home and give Giannis his starting C spot a year earlier than scheduled
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Re: Giannis - No Structural Damage 

Post#123 » by blazza18 » Wed Jun 30, 2021 11:00 pm

Huge sigh of relief. The franchise got extremely lucky here.

Hopefully Jrue and MIdds can put together 2 good games and we see Giannis in the finals.
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Post#124 » by drone3 » Wed Jun 30, 2021 11:04 pm

Feweee... Stay healthy Gianiss. Let it heal, don't risk it.
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Post#125 » by Antinomy » Wed Jun 30, 2021 11:04 pm

Some of you are out of your minds about shutting Giannis down.

If the medical staff says he’s okay & he knows he’s fine then let him play.
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Post#126 » by Prez » Wed Jun 30, 2021 11:08 pm

Incredible, just incredible man. Dude is a cyborg. If this costs us a title, ok, just avoiding serious ligament damage is amazing.

Khris and Jrue need to get their **** together and play like max guys with the big guy out. Khris has had some badass moments and I’m pleased with his postseason overall but Jrue really needs to step up NOW
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Post#127 » by Milbucks96 » Wed Jun 30, 2021 11:15 pm

:lol: it’s no way Giannis is playing again this season, he was already playing though an injury that probably would’ve had him sit games in the regular series(limping and wincing all game). It’s over, just bad luck but lucky that it didn’t end the next season. If Trae is done maybeee they can make it to the finals but even then that’s way too short of a turnaround for a bum knee that you jump off and use to generate power.
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Re: Giannis - No Structural Damage 

Post#128 » by hakjak » Wed Jun 30, 2021 11:16 pm

Yeah, if medical staff says he's good to go and Giannis is comfortable out there then you let him play. He's not gonna be out there dragging his leg like Willis Reed. He's only out there if he's running and cutting like normal.
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Re: Giannis - No Structural Damage 

Post#129 » by glenn » Wed Jun 30, 2021 11:17 pm

Prez wrote:Incredible, just incredible man. Dude is a cyborg. If this costs us a title, ok, just avoiding serious ligament damage is amazing.

Khris and Jrue need to get their **** together and play like max guys with the big guy out. Khris has had some badass moments and I’m pleased with his postseason overall but Jrue really needs to step up NOW

Feel like this news is our title :lol:
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Post#130 » by LittleRooster » Wed Jun 30, 2021 11:28 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Suki will do her thing but ultimately it will just take time. As an MD I think we've seen the last of him this season ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Wait, you’re an actual MD!? You buried the lead lol


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Post#131 » by theFireBlanket » Wed Jun 30, 2021 11:32 pm

skones wrote:Anyone who wants to shut Giannis down just because of last night is out of their mind. You wait your whole career for opportunities like these. You might as well lay a red carpet out for us with the Larry O'Brien sitting at the end of it. That's what this opportunity is. It may never come again. If he can go, he goes.

We're about 2 weeks removed from posters saying, UGH WE BLEW IT IN 2019 AND IT WAS RIGHT THERE THAT WAS THE BEST SHOT WE HAD, and then this one which is far better just lays itself out for us like it was god damned destiny. Jrue, Khris, Brook, and PJ aren't getting any younger, and in case some of you forgot, the cupboard is pretty bare when it comes to draft capital. All gas no brakes.


This kind of thinking could see Giannis going elsewhere if he has a serious injury & starts to wonder why they didn't just shut him down.

Regardless, that's what matters. If he's able to go, like he was vs Miami, then they'd just be setting him up for more pain. He should only be playing if he's legitimately good.
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Re: Giannis - No Structural Damage 

Post#132 » by mke_design » Wed Jun 30, 2021 11:36 pm

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MickeyDavis wrote:Suki will do her thing but ultimately it will just take time. As an MD I think we've seen the last of him this season ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Wait, you’re an actual MD!? You buried the lead lol


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Re: Giannis - No Structural Damage 

Post#133 » by MickeyDavis » Wed Jun 30, 2021 11:48 pm

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Re: Giannis - No Structural Damage 

Post#134 » by emunney » Thu Jul 1, 2021 12:03 am

skones wrote:Anyone who wants to shut Giannis down just because of last night is out of their mind. You wait your whole career for opportunities like these. You might as well lay a red carpet out for us with the Larry O'Brien sitting at the end of it. That's what this opportunity is. It may never come again. If he can go, he goes.

We're about 2 weeks removed from posters saying, UGH WE BLEW IT IN 2019 AND IT WAS RIGHT THERE THAT WAS THE BEST SHOT WE HAD, and then this one which is far better just lays itself out for us like it was god damned destiny. Jrue, Khris, Brook, and PJ aren't getting any younger, and in case some of you forgot, the cupboard is pretty bare when it comes to draft capital. All gas no brakes.


As long as Giannis is playing, we're likely to be on the doorstep. Door's certainly open right now though, and he knows it. If they let him go, I'm sure he will.
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Re: Giannis - No Structural Damage 

Post#135 » by ShootingtheJ » Thu Jul 1, 2021 12:07 am

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skones wrote:Anyone who wants to shut Giannis down just because of last night is out of their mind. You wait your whole career for opportunities like these. You might as well lay a red carpet out for us with the Larry O'Brien sitting at the end of it. That's what this opportunity is. It may never come again. If he can go, he goes.

We're about 2 weeks removed from posters saying, UGH WE BLEW IT IN 2019 AND IT WAS RIGHT THERE THAT WAS THE BEST SHOT WE HAD, and then this one which is far better just lays itself out for us like it was god damned destiny. Jrue, Khris, Brook, and PJ aren't getting any younger, and in case some of you forgot, the cupboard is pretty bare when it comes to draft capital. All gas no brakes.


This kind of thinking could see Giannis going elsewhere if he has a serious injury & starts to wonder why they didn't just shut him down.


If we have a chance at a title, and we don't let a medically cleared Giannis play, he might think we're overprotective, and want out. It works both ways. It's why you let the doctors decide.
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Re: Giannis - No Structural Damage 

Post#136 » by Magic Giannison » Thu Jul 1, 2021 12:08 am

Im soo **** happy but can someone explain me HOW?
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Re: Giannis - No Structural Damage 

Post#137 » by skones » Thu Jul 1, 2021 12:08 am

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skones wrote:Anyone who wants to shut Giannis down just because of last night is out of their mind. You wait your whole career for opportunities like these. You might as well lay a red carpet out for us with the Larry O'Brien sitting at the end of it. That's what this opportunity is. It may never come again. If he can go, he goes.

We're about 2 weeks removed from posters saying, UGH WE BLEW IT IN 2019 AND IT WAS RIGHT THERE THAT WAS THE BEST SHOT WE HAD, and then this one which is far better just lays itself out for us like it was god damned destiny. Jrue, Khris, Brook, and PJ aren't getting any younger, and in case some of you forgot, the cupboard is pretty bare when it comes to draft capital. All gas no brakes.


This kind of thinking could see Giannis going elsewhere if he has a serious injury & starts to wonder why they didn't just shut him down.

Regardless, that's what matters. If he's able to go, like he was vs Miami, then they'd just be setting him up for more pain. He should only be playing if he's legitimately good.


No, it's not that kind of thinking that could see Giannis go elsewhere. It's the roster construction that makes Giannis think he should go elsewhere. Our guys are getting older, less desirable in trade, and we don't have draft capital. A quick turn around rebuild is far more difficult than a lot of people seem to think.

I don't think for a second Giannis would blame the medical staff if he suffers a more serious injury if he plays. Giannis is the type of guy who would beg to play in spite of doctors wishes.
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Re: Giannis - No Structural Damage 

Post#138 » by supra2k8 » Thu Jul 1, 2021 12:12 am

This is a good explanation of his injury, and when he'll be potentially be back

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Re: Giannis - No Structural Damage 

Post#139 » by HKPackFan » Thu Jul 1, 2021 12:13 am

So can he just let that knee rest for a while.... I'm more concerned long term.
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Re: Giannis - No Structural Damage 

Post#140 » by Neuromancer56 » Thu Jul 1, 2021 12:26 am

supra2k8 wrote:This is a good explanation of his injury, and when he'll be potentially be back

Based on this video, it sounds like no structural damage means there is no complete rupture of a ligament, it still likely means there was at least stretching or possible partial tear of ligaments. If partial tear is the case I say keep him out of the playoffs this year.

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