The New Improved 2021-2022 Trade/Offseason Thread

[skywalker33]

Trade MPJ only if a legit star is coming, and that is certainly not Sabonis.

Sabonis was an All-Star this year, MPJ wasn't....just sayin'. But if you could get the 13th pick also (or swap the 26th, add a 2nd ?? whatever booty you can get), I'd may have to consider it.

[Richard Miller]

Trade MPJ only if a legit star is coming, and that is certainly not Sabonis.

Sabonis was an All-Star this year, MPJ wasn't....just sayin'. But if you could get the 13th pick also (or swap the 26th, add a 2nd ?? whatever booty you can get), I'd may have to consider it.

Yea in the East, not to mention he only made it as an injury replacement. If I'm not mistaken, he can't shoot threes, can't guard on the perimeter, basically a poorman's Jokic, I'd say hard pass whatever pick they attach.

[The Rebel]

Trade MPJ only if a legit star is coming, and that is certainly not Sabonis.

Sabonis was an All-Star this year, MPJ wasn't....just sayin'. But if you could get the 13th pick also (or swap the 26th, add a 2nd ?? whatever booty you can get), I'd may have to consider it.

Yea in the East, not to mention he only made it as an injury replacement. If I'm not mistaken, he can't shoot threes, can't guard on the perimeter, basically a poorman's Jokic, I'd say hard pass whatever pick they attach.

I agree with you. While it would be great to have a guy who can capably run a large part of the Jokic offense when Jokic heads to the bench would be nice I don't see him being a fit with Jokic on the court and think that would be a waste of a huge asset.

The one big I would love to get from the Pacers is Turner, I just don't see a workable deal as we don't have the cap filler and it would take Turner and some big incentive for me to give up MPJ.

[Richard Miller]

Yea Turner would be nice, but not at the price of including MPJ

[TunaFish]

If Barton opts out that we could do Sexton for the 26th & Bol using our TPE.
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with the full MLE to spend on a backup 2/3.

I think the Nuggets used part of the TPE they got in the Grant trade to sign McGee.

Just curious as to how much do you think Sexton would sign for and how much of the TPE do the Nuggets have?

[cjmcallist]

OKC fan here, coming in peace, wanting to get a feel for something I find very interesting. With Murray's injury, and MPJ's pending contract - would DEN be interested in Murray + MPJ for Dame? No picks.

Is that too much?

Thanks!

[skywalker33]

OKC fan here, coming in peace, wanting to get a feel for something I find very interesting. With Murray's injury, and MPJ's pending contract - would DEN be interested in Murray + MPJ for Dame? No picks.

Is that too much?

Thanks!

Given that Dame is already on the wrong side of 30, yes it's absolutely too much. We may have to wait a few months, but we'll have many more years with the two than with just with Dame.

[The Rebel]

If Barton opts out that we could do Sexton for the 26th & Bol using our TPE.
...

with the full MLE to spend on a backup 2/3.

I think the Nuggets used part of the TPE they got in the Grant trade to sign McGee.

Just curious as to how much do you think Sexton would sign for and how much of the TPE do the Nuggets have?

You maybe right on McGee, for some reason I was thinking they used the Beasley/Juancho TPE but I don't think it was big enough.

Sexton is under contract for $6.35 million, his extension will not kick in until 2022/23, but there are reports that the Cavs cannot afford to pay him, Garland, Love, and the rest of the roster while staying below the tax. With their lack of success a lot of people seem sure they will trade Sexton.

[The Rebel]

OKC fan here, coming in peace, wanting to get a feel for something I find very interesting. With Murray's injury, and MPJ's pending contract - would DEN be interested in Murray + MPJ for Dame? No picks.

Is that too much?

Thanks!

I said on the trade board that I do not see the Nuggets trading Murray and MPJ for anybody in the NBA.

Think about it this way, how many stars have been traded for 2 guys with all star potential? The only one I can think of in the last 10 years were AD who brought back Ingram and Randle, both of whom had a lot of improvement before they became all star caliber.

Dame will likely bring back 1 decent young rising star, cap relief, and 3 1st round picks. Personally I think it is too much considering his age but that is a better package than guys like Harden brought back.

[TunaFish]

If Barton opts out that we could do Sexton for the 26th & Bol using our TPE.
...

with the full MLE to spend on a backup 2/3.

I think the Nuggets used part of the TPE they got in the Grant trade to sign McGee.

Just curious as to how much do you think Sexton would sign for and how much of the TPE do the Nuggets have?

You maybe right on McGee, for some reason I was thinking they used the Beasley/Juancho TPE but I don't think it was big enough.

Sexton is under contract for $6.35 million, his extension will not kick in until 2022/23, but there are reports that the Cavs cannot afford to pay him, Garland, Love, and the rest of the roster while staying below the tax. With their lack of success a lot of people seem sure they will trade Sexton.

Sexton is not going to be cheap and it also looks like Miami may have made a move for him:

Read on Twitter

[TunaFish]

OKC fan here, coming in peace, wanting to get a feel for something I find very interesting. With Murray's injury, and MPJ's pending contract - would DEN be interested in Murray + MPJ for Dame? No picks.

Is that too much?

Thanks!

I would imagine that Denver would look at the ages of both Murray and MPJ, evaluate the possibility that either or both may be future superstars and politely decline any trade offers for them.

Obviously, it would be difficult to find players made available in trade at similar stages of their careers who would be better prospects.

[Richard Miller]

OKC fan here, coming in peace, wanting to get a feel for something I find very interesting. With Murray's injury, and MPJ's pending contract - would DEN be interested in Murray + MPJ for Dame? No picks.

Is that too much?

Thanks!

I said on the trade board that I do not see the Nuggets trading Murray and MPJ for anybody in the NBA.

Yup, I don't think they would trade just Murray for anyone, let alone Murray + MPJ. Just MPJ + fillers and picks is likely only one who could be considered.

[The Rebel]

I think the Nuggets used part of the TPE they got in the Grant trade to sign McGee.

Just curious as to how much do you think Sexton would sign for and how much of the TPE do the Nuggets have?

You maybe right on McGee, for some reason I was thinking they used the Beasley/Juancho TPE but I don't think it was big enough.

Sexton is under contract for $6.35 million, his extension will not kick in until 2022/23, but there are reports that the Cavs cannot afford to pay him, Garland, Love, and the rest of the roster while staying below the tax. With their lack of success a lot of people seem sure they will trade Sexton.

Sexton is not going to be cheap and it also looks like Miami may have made a move for him:

Read on Twitter

I expect a lot of teams to have interest in the guy, he is an efficient scorer at 24 ppg at 57.3% TS%. He also has some major issues in that he is not good at running an offense and not big enough to guard SGs which is why he doesn't work with Garland.


You keep talking about signing for, but he is under contract and cannot be extended if he is traded. Guys cannot sign extensions for 6 months before or after a trade due to the Carmelo Anthony rule that was instituted in the 2011 CBA. As for what he signs for next year, he will likely get $25 million per year if not the max, but that is not a bad thing for us. If we got him cheap this year, used him as a Murray replacement until Murray came back healthy, and then sign and trade him next year we walk away with a good year, a large TPE, and a future pick which I think is a clear win.

[The Rebel]

OKC fan here, coming in peace, wanting to get a feel for something I find very interesting. With Murray's injury, and MPJ's pending contract - would DEN be interested in Murray + MPJ for Dame? No picks.

Is that too much?

Thanks!

I said on the trade board that I do not see the Nuggets trading Murray and MPJ for anybody in the NBA.

Yup, I don't think they would trade just Murray for anyone, let alone Murray + MPJ. Just MPJ + fillers and picks is likely only one who could be considered.

I am not so sure that we would trade MPJ for anybody outside of a top superstar who happened to be a great fit. Also we do not really have much filler on the roster. If Barton opts out as I expect than we have Green who may also opt out, Morris, Gordon, Murray, Jokic, and a bunch of little contracts. So outside of Green I don't see much filler.

[skywalker33]

I said on the trade board that I do not see the Nuggets trading Murray and MPJ for anybody in the NBA.

Yup, I don't think they would trade just Murray for anyone, let alone Murray + MPJ. Just MPJ + fillers and picks is likely only one who could be considered.

I am not so sure that we would trade MPJ for anybody outside of a top superstar who happened to be a great fit. Also we do not really have much filler on the roster. If Barton opts out as I expect than we have Green who may also opt out, Morris, Gordon, Murray, Jokic, and a bunch of little contracts. So outside of Green I don't see much filler.

An interesting observation, we really don't have a lot of tradeable assets outside of our big 3 and draft picks.

[TunaFish]

You keep talking about signing for, but he is under contract and cannot be extended if he is traded. Guys cannot sign extensions for 6 months before or after a trade due to the Carmelo Anthony rule that was instituted in the 2011 CBA. As for what he signs for next year, he will likely get $25 million per year if not the max, but that is not a bad thing for us. If we got him cheap this year, used him as a Murray replacement until Murray came back healthy, and then sign and trade him next year we walk away with a good year, a large TPE, and a future pick which I think is a clear win.

I thought Sexton was a restricted free agent. In fact he is playing on a qualifying offer on the last year of his rookie contract. He will be a restricted free agent in 2022 unless extended.

It is difficult to see how Cleveland plans to keep both Sexton and Garland together.

If he is a 25 million or above per year player then I think that will probably rule out Denver's interest. Sexton is not worth that amount of money IMHO. Additionally, MPJ has to get paid soon enough as well.

[psimanic1]

we can always S&T MPJ for Kawhi, we would probably need one more trade to free up some space, but it's doable I guess..

[skywalker33]

we can always S&T MPJ for Kawhi, we would probably need one more trade to free up some space, but it's doable I guess..

Salaries would not match up and not sure Kawhi would approve that trade, although his time in LA has not been as productive as he's planned. Also, his last two playoff performances have taken a hit on his legacy

[Richard Miller]

we can always S&T MPJ for Kawhi, we would probably need one more trade to free up some space, but it's doable I guess..

If Kawhi was ok not being in the LA he would've stayed with Raptors, don't think he's going anywhere

[The Rebel]

One guy I would target to help replace Murray is Mike Conley, he would make a great placeholder for the 1st 2/3rds of the season and then a guy who can help Morris run the bench unit when Murray gets back up to speed. I think we could get him for a 3 year MLE deal with the last year unguaranteed.