Eliminated: LAC is out, knee-jerk trades and solutions

[Texas Chuck]

Please no to Bledsoe, Wall, Westbrook and Kemba.

I doubt Kawhi leaves, offer Reggie a 2/20 with year 2 being a PO to secure his bird rights and then give him a bloated 2 year-deal as a thank you.

I don't think you can offer Reggie anywhere near that much. You don't have his Bird rights and you're well into the tax, so AFAIK the most you can offer is the taxpayer MLE, which is $5.9M to start. Not sure he settles for that.

They have early bird's so that offer is legit.

[Sofia]

I’m happy to throw the max early bird offer of 4/46m at Reggie and give a PO on final year.

Beverly is expiring so I wonder if he can traded to a team looking to get out of an unwanted 2 year salary

[Sofia]

I haven’t been around these parts for a while so I’m surprised to see Hield thrown around. Is his value that low?

[loserX]

Please no to Bledsoe, Wall, Westbrook and Kemba.

I doubt Kawhi leaves, offer Reggie a 2/20 with year 2 being a PO to secure his bird rights and then give him a bloated 2 year-deal as a thank you.

I don't think you can offer Reggie anywhere near that much. You don't have his Bird rights and you're well into the tax, so AFAIK the most you can offer is the taxpayer MLE, which is $5.9M to start. Not sure he settles for that.

They have early bird's so that offer is legit.

I stand corrected, thank you!

[Texas Chuck]

I like Rondo/25 for Plumlee/37/52. Even if Ibaka picks up his option and comes back, Plumlee gives them something neither Ibaka nor Zubac does and in theory if Ibaka returns and they expect clean healthy they could attach Zubac to PatBev's expiring to go get something else.

Detroit grabs another 1st rounder and buys out Rondo.

[gswhoops]

Do you sell high on Mann to try and bring in more vets, or believe his playoff performance is a sign of things to come and not a flash in the pan?

[Texas Chuck]

Do you sell high on Mann to try and bring in more vets, or believe his playoff performance is a sign of things to come and not a flash in the pan?

For me I'd be willing to add him as incentive in a bigger deal, but otherwise he's a keeper. He's limited, but very useful and I like Lue having as many options as possible as he showed a real knack for when to play each guard in his deck.

[Wolveswin]

I would call Warriors and see how much they value George and Zubac. Would they see them as perfect fitting as this fan does? If so, would they put every asset they have in the deal: Wiseman + #7 + #14 + Futures and yes + Wiggins as needed salary.

With them in as trading partner, what 3rd team has a win-now player that wants rebuilding assets — with Clippers willing to throw in more value (#25, 2028 1st, Beverley expiring, Kennard if someone finds him positive).

Beal + Bertans
Dame
Siakam + FVV
Wood+
Grant+

To name a few.

[Texas Chuck]

I would call Warriors and see how much they value George and Zubac. Would they see them as perfect fitting as this fan does? If so, would they put every asset they have in the deal: Wiseman + #7 + #14 + Futures and yes + Wiggins as needed salary.

With them in as trading partner, what 3rd team has a win-now player that wants rebuilding assets — with Clippers willing to throw in more value (#25, 2028 1st, Beverley expiring, Kennard if someone finds him positive).

Beal + Bertans
Dame
Siakam + FVV
Wood+
Grant+

To name a few.

It makes no sense to trade PG for parts and then hope against hope they can turn those parts into a better star. And those last 2 aren't remotely stars. Sometimes its okay to keep it much simpler and not go for the massive deal every time.

[Wolveswin]

I would call Warriors and see how much they value George and Zubac. Would they see them as perfect fitting as this fan does? If so, would they put every asset they have in the deal: Wiseman + #7 + #14 + Futures and yes + Wiggins as needed salary.

With them in as trading partner, what 3rd team has a win-now player that wants rebuilding assets — with Clippers willing to throw in more value (#25, 2028 1st, Beverley expiring, Kennard if someone finds him positive).

Beal + Bertans
Dame
Siakam + FVV
Wood+
Grant+

To name a few.

It makes no sense to trade PG for parts and then hope against hope they can turn those parts into a better star. And those last 2 aren't remotely stars. Sometimes its okay to keep it much simpler and not go for the massive deal every time.

Sure those last two aren’t superstars, but calling Parts is rather self serving. NBA trades happen like this all the time. Starts as a 2 team agreement, then with terms, find the 3rd even 4th teams that leaves all teams satisfied. (Hence the + next to the last two names)

Point being, George would find staying in Cali as a safe landing spot, being 3rd or 4th fiddle and playing for rings would be baby bird in the nest like — for a player proven not to be ideal ‘big 2nd’ of a superstar duo. With that box checked, let’s build a better roster around Kawhi. He just got beat by a better roster.

Can a roster that surrounds him more shooting, ideally a dynamic scoring guard, and more depth (for more Kawhi load management) result in a better outcome?

[Texas Chuck]

PG just advanced his team without Kawhi and had a terrific playoff run pushing the healthiest good team in the league to 6 in the WCF. Maybe re-think tired narratives?

[parsnips33]

Don't get me wrong I would love to get PG but why in the world would they trade him after this postseason??

[TheNewEra]

I like Rondo/25 for Plumlee/37/52. Even if Ibaka picks up his option and comes back, Plumlee gives them something neither Ibaka nor Zubac does and in theory if Ibaka returns and they expect clean healthy they could attach Zubac to PatBev's expiring to go get something else.

Detroit grabs another 1st rounder and buys out Rondo.

What does Mason Plumlee actually provide? His passing is better but he’s a worse free throw shooter and he has similar numbers to Zubac while being much older.

I can’t see this team looking to get older with how Batum and Morris struggled to keep their legs

[bondom34]

Not sure if they could make up the value in 2nds, looks like they have a few extras now from Detroit, but if they keep Jackson something around Bev for Thad Young to shore up the frontcourt rotation maybe?

[Karmaloop]

PG just advanced his team without Kawhi and had a terrific playoff run pushing the healthiest good team in the league to 6 in the WCF. Maybe re-think tired narratives?

I mean, I wouldn't say Paul George played particularly well in the last two games against Utah and their series against the Suns. He shot 66-155 (42.6%) from the field. Paul George had one really good game (Game 5), two good games (Game 2 and 6), and 3 bad games (Game 1, 3, and 4). But the problem is they've ran the Kawhi/PG13 duo the last two years, and they've got ONE WCF Final appearance to show for it. Kawhi Leonard just turned 30 years old, and his body is already showing signs of breaking down. And Paul George turned 31 a month ago. They don't have the luxury of just running it back with the uncertainty regarding Kawhi's health.

But the problem is the Clippers are limited on assets for the foreseeable future. Other than this year's FRP, they can't trade a FRP until 2028, which doesn't become available until after the draft. So at most they can offer their '21 FRP and '28 FRP in a trade AFTER the draft. And in terms of young players on rookie contracts, the list consists of Terrance Mann and Daniel Oturu. None of which are headliners for a trade. But the rest of their roster consists of veterans that are ready to play on win-now teams including Marcus Morris, Ivica Zubac, Patrick Beverley, etc. It's just a weird roster fit if you're looking to mix things up.

[gswhoops]

PG just advanced his team without Kawhi and had a terrific playoff run pushing the healthiest good team in the league to 6 in the WCF. Maybe re-think tired narratives?

Since this is the knee-jerk reactions thread and not the “let’s make smart, small moves and run it back healthy” thread let’s send Dame to LAC, PG/Zubac to GS and the Warriors rebuilding package to Portland, then follow up with the Rondo/25 for Plumlee deal:

Plumlee/Ibaka
Morris/
Kawhi/
Kennard/Mann
Dame/PatBev

[MoneyTalks41890]

PG just advanced his team without Kawhi and had a terrific playoff run pushing the healthiest good team in the league to 6 in the WCF. Maybe re-think tired narratives?

Since this is the knee-jerk reactions thread and not the “let’s make smart, small moves and run it back healthy” thread let’s send Dame to LAC, PG/Zubac to GS and the Warriors rebuilding package to Portland, then follow up with the Rondo/25 for Plumlee deal:

Plumlee/Ibaka
Morris/
Kawhi/
Kennard/Mann
Dame/PatBev

As far as knee-jerk reactions go this one is pretty good

[Mike lorenzo]

basically bring the team back..Reggie and Batum priorities ..
Zubac / PBev for Dinwiddie (ST) .. ??

Rondo / Nets21 for T. Thompson

TT/Ibaka
Morris/Batum
KL/Mann
PG/Kennard
Dinwiddie/Reggie

[Dn4sty]

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Clips can’t offer Reggie a ton

[nzahir]

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Clips can’t offer Reggie a ton

Lmfaoo 2m extra

We aren’t talking about him getting 12-13m a year, but possibly 18-20m a year after his play

Dennis wants 100-120m and Reggie outplayed him by a ton

If he takes the 10.7 and Dennis gets like 18-22m, I will just assume Ballmer paid him with crypto under the table